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letgomyAgo
Aug 6, 2012

Coolguye posted:

I used to RP grief on WoW like a loving fiend. I posted a couple of these earlier in this thread, but it's been over a year since they were last linked, so here you guys go:

A friend and I completely ruin a cabal of lovely, insular roleplayers on Silver Hand.
A few stories from our 'RP guild' that really just existed to ruin RP.

Wicked Immorality was huge fun back when we were screwing around on Silver Hand. Our approach to grief RPing was to just roleplay the people that you'd rather forget exist. An easy way to make a quick gold back in the day was just to RP walk through a notorious cyber location like Goldshire, and wait for the inevitable proposition, because horny teenagers think the only way you can be immoral is to have kinky sex, I guess. We'd tell people that we were getting bombarded with tells already, so we had to know they were serious about having a good time and ask for money to prove that they were serious. Then we'd collect our hooker money, use the /laugh emote on them, and walk away with their cash. When they sent the hateful tells, we'd simply reply "didn't you see my guild name?"

We never had to deal with GMs over this behavior. Either our suckers were too embarrassed to admit they were paying e-gold for e-sex or the GMs thought it was too funny to confront us about it.

I just read through some of your year old posts in this thread; holy gently caress the UO stuff man. I just want to tip my hat to those grief, and the incredible freedom that game gave people that allowed them to pull poo poo like that.

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Magres
Jul 14, 2011
I just re-read the one of Soul dismantling and robbing a guild of three years of work. That was some beautiful poo poo man

Missing Name
Jan 5, 2013


Going back to BBC2 (which I play much more than BF3), I've found my favorite tactic to piss off camping snipers on my team is to tracer dart their face. Not only does it provide a nice beacon for enemy snipers, but it puts a big, red blinking light in their vision. It kinda distracts their aim when they're being useless by trying to pick off a fresh-spawned guy all the way across the map.

Dinictus
Nov 26, 2005

May our CoX spray white sticky fluid at our enemies forever!
HAIL ARACHNOS!
Soiled Meat

tomanton posted:

The best way to grief roleplayers is metagaming: go with a buddy or two to a crowded RP hotspot and start carrying out a casual, out-of-character, fourth-wall-breaking conversation in local chat about the characters around you and their top-secret biographies. It's low effort, extremely high reward, and from a terms of service perspective it's bulletproof. Goons had pretty good success with this in Champions Online following the whole "RPist" debacle.

Conversely, the best way to avoid being griefed as a roleplayer is to take whatever dumb crap gets at you and play it straight or at least play it off, which is incidentally one of the first things improv actors are taught (which is basically what roleplaying is in the first place). It just happens pubbies would rather give you death threats instead :shobon:

Oh yes. That's exactly what happens whenever this guy makes the rounds around Champions Online's Club Caprice.



The character is entirely played straight in-game, by the way. A bingo-dispensing robot with access to all given in-game databases on a whim because the club owner has loving had it with all the dumb demon overlords and gods of death.

Mind, posting entire chat transcripts is kind of boring, and would read like a slog. And to be fair, we never bother to save those. But the gist is basically people flipping their poo poo over 'but but but they can't know that' or 'go away Bingo' and 'my immersion is ruined'. Even though the Bingo Bot is played entirely in-character. Acknowledges and adheres to the (nebulously available) Champions lore, and whenever people don't clash with that, their characters. And can and has been ignored plenty often. Or to quote someone from STO, where this problem of vocal roleplayers is even more rife:

Vizh20 posted:

The "disruption" the other posters mention are basically us "ruining their immersion", that is to say we're having our own fun in the same instance as them and they don't think we should be allowed to.

To them, we are just background characters in their own Mary Sue fanfic, and if we do anything that stands out, that's "trolling". They want to control the environment, and that means you too, they don't want you jumping over a table to get to the exchange faster, that's trolling to them. They want you, personally, to serve them. They want to control you.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Dinictus posted:

Oh yes. That's exactly what happens whenever this guy makes the rounds around Champions Online's Club Caprice.




Following the links on that tumblr brought me Here.

I don't know if it's sleep deprivation or what but I find this character to be utterly hilarious.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Improbable Lobster posted:

Following the links on that tumblr brought me Here.

I don't know if it's sleep deprivation or what but I find this character to be utterly hilarious.

Don't worry, that's because it is.

God drat, I miss the charming fuckeditude of CoH's bios. I mean points to CO, they're doing their best, but they just can't do it. I still think a big part of it is the lack of a bio limit; on CoH you were limited to 1024 characters, which sounds limiting, but if your head isn't so far up your rear end you understand that people around you don't care what you had for breakfast you do just fine. If you can't edit your character description to be less than that without losing what you think are important elements, you have failed.

I'm almost tempted to reinstall CO just to go and watch, but... no, these people are too verbose, my eyes slip from the bio most times.

Dinictus
Nov 26, 2005

May our CoX spray white sticky fluid at our enemies forever!
HAIL ARACHNOS!
Soiled Meat

Cleretic posted:

Don't worry, that's because it is.

God drat, I miss the charming fuckeditude of CoH's bios. I mean points to CO, they're doing their best, but they just can't do it. I still think a big part of it is the lack of a bio limit; on CoH you were limited to 1024 characters, which sounds limiting, but if your head isn't so far up your rear end you understand that people around you don't care what you had for breakfast you do just fine. If you can't edit your character description to be less than that without losing what you think are important elements, you have failed.

I'm almost tempted to reinstall CO just to go and watch, but... no, these people are too verbose, my eyes slip from the bio most times.

That's perhaps the biggest sad point of CO bios, yes.

They have to be loving novellas.

And most of the time, it means people will write a whole lot of nothing to tell exactly nothing that partains to their character or what they are. Race: alien species. What the gently caress species then? Looks: golden eyes, pale skin. We can see that! Auras, themesongs, it becomes a muddied, muddied mess.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Magres posted:

I just re-read the one of Soul dismantling and robbing a guild of three years of work. That was some beautiful poo poo man

Soul was a goddamn artist with that one. There is no way I am ever going to be able to touch that.

Willfrey
Jul 20, 2007

Why don't the poors simply buy more money?
Fun Shoe

Magres posted:

I just re-read the one of Soul dismantling and robbing a guild of three years of work. That was some beautiful poo poo man

Which page is that on?

OP would be awesome if it linked the 'good griefs'

as a SS13 player I can appreciate a good grief.

ellbent
May 2, 2007

I NEVER HAD SOUL
I've been roleplaying way too long and in way too many venues, but I made a Champions character once and the entirety of his bio was an assurance that he wasn't special, had no aura, no magic, no psychic defenses, no demonic/angelic anything, and was just a regular jackoff of a superhero.

These people wouldn't leave me alone. I loving swear, all the time I was being pestered in /tells to reveal the Big Secret I didn't have, strangers insisting that their Very Special Abilities could pierce my obvious veil of deception because of how many demons they had eaten or how old of a vampire they were.

He's just a guy with ice powers, you weirdos. Goddamn.

Uranium 235
Oct 12, 2004

Willfrey posted:

Which page is that on?

OP would be awesome if it linked the 'good griefs'

as a SS13 player I can appreciate a good grief.
To read the UO guild grief, click the little ? button under Coolguye's avatar. Then Ctrl-F and look for the post that has "MyLoafOfBread" in it.

edit: I guess there's no statute of limitations on the forums because Coolguye just got probated for something he wrote over a year ago. :v:

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Uranium 235 posted:

To read the UO guild grief, click the little ? button under Coolguye's avatar. Then Ctrl-F and look for the post that has "MyLoafOfBread" in it.

edit: I guess there's no statute of limitations on the forums because Coolguye just got probated for something he wrote over a year ago. :v:
I think that one was because he posted a link to it a page or so back.

tomanton
May 22, 2006

beam me up, tomato

Cleretic posted:

on CoH you were limited to 1024 characters

I'm almost tempted to reinstall CO just to go and watch, but... no, these people are too verbose
That character limit legit made me a better writer, All CO's current method does is give roleplayers one more dumb petty way to judge eachother, and make it more tedious to screengrab bad bios in their entirety.

Speaking of which, I've got several dozen or so of them I can bundle up and filesmelt if any tumblr superstars feel up to stitching them together.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!

Uranium 235 posted:

To read the UO guild grief, click the little ? button under Coolguye's avatar. Then Ctrl-F and look for the post that has "MyLoafOfBread" in it.

edit: I guess there's no statute of limitations on the forums because Coolguye just got probated for something he wrote over a year ago. :v:

I'm unprobated now, I guess? It was supposed to last for 3 days, but it was closer to 3 hours. I dunno, the probation reason didn't make a ton of sense to me in the first place, because at least in my mind the only person I was offending was a groggy douchebag who was turning the extremely complex experience of transsexualism into a way to get laid. Probably just a reading error or something, there was already someone who mistakenly accused me of being transphobic due to that story, since he had accidentally read 'profound' as 'profane'. :v:

Edit: VVV - Oh hey appreciate that

Coolguye fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Jun 12, 2013

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



Coolguye posted:

I'm unprobated now, I guess? It was supposed to last for 3 days, but it was closer to 3 hours. I dunno, the probation reason didn't make a ton of sense to me in the first place, because at least in my mind the only person I was offending was a groggy douchebag who was turning the extremely complex experience of transsexualism into a way to get laid. Probably just a reading error or something, there was already someone who mistakenly accused me of being transphobic due to that story, since he had accidentally read 'profound' as 'profane'. :v:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3538428&pagenumber=62

scopes
Jun 5, 2004

Stuntman posted:

Yeah, I could understand un-probating him if it was just a year old post, but the fact that he linked back to it means he still approves of the transphobic contents of that post today. After all, he could've just edited those parts out and fixed pronouns before posting the link.

Coolguye's such a great griefer that he's got Stuntman trolling himself

edit: VVVV Whoops, well, we all make mistakes.

scopes fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Jun 12, 2013

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

scopes posted:

Coolguye's such a great griefer that he's got Stuntman trolling herself
Fixed your post.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
might want to change that patriarchal heteronormative cissexist username in that case.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Congratulations, you guys just griefed PYF. That was great.

Edit: I guess just stuntman got griefed.

Cojawfee fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Jun 12, 2013

cock hero flux
Apr 17, 2011



Okay I'm gonna save everyone a lot of trouble here:

Stuntman, the word "profound" basically means deep or meaningful and has no negative connotations whatsoever.

Sanctum
Feb 14, 2005

Property was their religion
A church for one

JustJeff88 posted:

I just started playing TF2 again after a long absence - it is sad to see how the game has deteriorated, but I generally play in the evenings on a pretty high-skill public server with people I have known for a good while. I am missing so many weapons, though, which is kind of depressing - I do not give a toss about hats and other cosmetic bullshit, but I like to play with all the toys and I wish I had a Liberty Launcher because it would fit my style better and I play quite a bit of soldier. I am a very mediocre player and giving me an "overpowered" weapon is not going to break the game, trust me. I would also like to try that one weapon that shoots laser-style projectiles.
Aside from the wrangler and atomizer, none of the non-stock weapons are really 'overpowered.' They can be situationally powerful or just unfun to play against. Some people think simply using certain universally hated weapons counts as griefing, I'd say that heavily depends on how they use the weapon. For example:


I recently saw an amazingly effective use of a somewhat tired and overused gimmick. I join this server on foundry and there is an enemy rocketjumper soldier just flying around our spawn area like a jet fighter. He was one of those rare soldiers that can flawlessly chain walls and hops while surfing up slopes and really making lesser folk like me feel like trash in comparison. Now normally people use this gimmick to try killing people in a difficult manner so they can feel smug about themselves. This particular soldier wasn't in it for kills. He'd fly away as soon as someone tried to fight back, mostly he just took potshots with his shotgun. There is something particular to pubbie psychology where if a guy shoots at them and then runs away - they absolutely have to kill him.

"That scrub just tried to ambush me but I was too good for him. Now he is fleeing because he is weak, but nobody escapes me." :smug:

For my part I simply ignored him and went on my way. Yet half my team was chasing him around behind forward spawn, ignoring any objectives because they absolutely had to kill this one guy in particular. Playing with half my team absent was challenging, but every time I died I was treated to spectating this Benny Hill routine of my teammates running around in circles trying to kill someone who they had no hope of ever catching. It was honestly the funniest gimmick I've seen in TF2. He wasn't being intentionally useless or trying to show off how many people he can kill with [gimmick weapon], he was just luring the poo poo out of people like some mythical piper boy.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

tomanton posted:

That character limit legit made me a better writer, All CO's current method does is give roleplayers one more dumb petty way to judge eachother, and make it more tedious to screengrab bad bios in their entirety.

Speaking of which, I've got several dozen or so of them I can bundle up and filesmelt if any tumblr superstars feel up to stitching them together.

I've decided what I want to do.

I want to make The Editor. I'm currently studying to be one, so it would be good practice and something I'm suited to, just going around and offering to fix people's horrible goddamn bios.

I just need to decide on my method. Will I forcefully, drive-by edit their bios? Or will I be incessantly polite and tactful in my approach?

Orv
May 4, 2011
Ask hard hitting questions about the legitimacy of their bios.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

whatis posted:

They're actually about even right now in terms of total lifespan. From a competitive perspective, TFC peaked about four years after its release, and as far as public servers went, there were tons of active servers and communities well into 2006.

Moving forward though, yeah, TF2 will have TFC well-beaten by the time it dies off.

Are we talking TFC or the horrible TFC-style mod (whose name eludes me) that got released a month or so before TF2?

The Duke of Butts
Aug 9, 2008

by Ralp
It's obvious what kind of character he should be.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Sanctum posted:

For my part I simply ignored him and went on my way. Yet half my team was chasing him around behind forward spawn, ignoring any objectives because they absolutely had to kill this one guy in particular. Playing with half my team absent was challenging, but every time I died I was treated to spectating this Benny Hill routine of my teammates running around in circles trying to kill someone who they had no hope of ever catching. It was honestly the funniest gimmick I've seen in TF2. He wasn't being intentionally useless or trying to show off how many people he can kill with [gimmick weapon], he was just luring the poo poo out of people like some mythical piper boy.

The best part of that grief is that not only is it hilarious, he is also being an extremely valuable asset to his team be removing those people from play. It is just as, if not more effective than actually killing those people.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Party Plane Jones posted:

Are we talking TFC or the horrible TFC-style mod (whose name eludes me) that got released a month or so before TF2?

Fortress Forever is what you're thinking of. Bad mod.

On the bright side it does have the Escort gametype where one player is a civilian armed with an umbrella which is easy to grief. I don't have any interesting stories though, just nerds getting mad about me "playing wrong".

Twenty Drunk Apes
Jun 17, 2012

The mane you say? Please note that this is a pity avatar because even bronies feel sorry for this poster so :effort:.
By the time I had first heard of Fortress Forever, there was literally nobody playing. Not a single soul. So I never got to find out what was so bad about it. Anyone mind educating me?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I think people only played Fortress Forever because TF2 wasn't including some feature where you do a grenade jump and can change direction in the air or something. Other than Fortress Forever having this feature I didn't care about, everything else about the game looked like poo poo.

Slappy Moose
Jan 23, 2010

THE FILTHY IMMIGRANT

Improbable Lobster posted:

Fortress Forever is what you're thinking of. Bad mod.

On the bright side it does have the Escort gametype where one player is a civilian armed with an umbrella which is easy to grief. I don't have any interesting stories though, just nerds getting mad about me "playing wrong".

Anyone playing as the VIP who didn't spend the entire round berating people for meaningless things, complaining about the awful bodyguard service, and then smacking random people with the umbrella as many times as they could was not playing the role correctly. :colbert:

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008
I only really played the original Quake version of hunted, but the number of times the bodyguards would kill the VIP, or the VIP would be suicidal outnumbered the times I saw the map played as intended. I assume that's why Valve didn't put it into TF2.

And while I didn't care about the pro grenade jumping tactics, I do miss the tons of gimmicks and grenades in the original.

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
TF2 has the escort mode, it's called being medic in comp. There's also a shitton of gimmicks available due to the new weapons valve added. No grenades but there are jars of piss.

TheSpiritFox
Jan 4, 2009

I'm just a memory, I can't give you any new information.

FedoraDefender420 posted:

TF2 has the escort mode, it's called being medic in comp. There's also a shitton of gimmicks available due to the new weapons valve added. No grenades but there are jars of piss.

I constantly feel griefed on public servers because there is always that rear end in a top hat with 2 kills who's rocking Market Gardener/Rocket Jumper/gunboats soldier.

I wish there were a native server option to turn off the rocket jumper and sticky jumper. And I wish everyone would turn those stupid things off.

whatis
Jun 6, 2012

Party Plane Jones posted:

Are we talking TFC or the horrible TFC-style mod (whose name eludes me) that got released a month or so before TF2?

TFC. Others have said it already, but yeah, the bad mod was Fortress Forever.

I was an early beta-tester for FF actually. It was pretty fun for a period of time, but the released mod felt a lot different than what I played. The guys who started the mod were more or less just looking to create a 1:1 source conversion of TFC with a lot of bug fixes, but it turned into something else somewhere along the way.

There was a hilarious bug me and a friend discovered and abused the poo poo out of during testing. I can't remember exactly how you triggered it, but there was a way to bug the heavy's AC and fire all remaining ammo at the same time. You could instantly gib entire groups of players from across the battlements on 2fort

HE4T
Aug 29, 2011

Battlefield BC2 story.

me and the other Goon BFBC2 players eventually discovered you could Teamkill people by throwing a gernade and immediatly disconnecting from the server which would then make the gernade hostile. It eventaully ended up with 5 people throwing tank mines in large groups where our teammates would get bottlenecked and then one person throwning the nade and DCing. We had to do it to other servers because it would empty the server in a hurry. Mosty the reddit server.

Good times.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

FedoraDefender420 posted:

TF2 has the escort mode, it's called being medic in comp. There's also a shitton of gimmicks available due to the new weapons valve added. No grenades but there are jars of piss.

Being a medic in comp is griefing yourself :smith:

MissMarple
Aug 26, 2008

:ms:

Ariong posted:

The best part of that grief is that not only is it hilarious, he is also being an extremely valuable asset to his team be removing those people from play. It is just as, if not more effective than actually killing those people.
This is exactly how I play Spy. I am terrible at Spy, but if you keep chipping away at people with the pistol from different parts of their spawn and running around invisible you can end up with a half dozen people who are completely 100% invested in a Spy Hunt whilst the rest of your team cleans house at the objective.

People just really goddamn hate Spies.

regulargonzalez
Aug 18, 2006
UNGH LET ME LICK THOSE BOOTS DADDY HULU ;-* ;-* ;-* YES YES GIVE ME ALL THE CORPORATE CUMMIES :shepspends: :shepspends: :shepspends: ADBLOCK USERS DESERVE THE DEATH PENALTY, DON'T THEY DADDY?
WHEN THE RICH GET RICHER I GET HORNIER :a2m::a2m::a2m::a2m:

Not an inventive grief, but wastes people's time and makes them rage.

Background: So, Path of Exile is an ARPG very similar to Diablo 2. High quality loot drops used to be allocated to players on a short timer, but they added a feature in the last patch where the party creator can toggle this to make loot drops permanent to a specific player, though unless it's your drop you don't know what player it's for. And as an ARPG with lots of skill effects and the ground covered with loot, you can miss drops from time to time -- they might occur in another room due to a big aoe skill effect or something.

Find a public party that has loot set to permanent allocation, preferably in a multilevel dungeon with huge floorplans. Ancient Pyramid works well for this. When the group is at near the end of the zone, join party and go a couple floors away from them and remark something like "Hey, someone left an exalt laying here. (Exalt = exalted orb, very rare and expensive currency item -- in value, think along the lines of a Diablo 2 high rune, though it drops a bit more often than that making it fairly likely you're telling the truth). Anyone know if permanent allocation eventually wears off?"

Everyone in the party will immediately stop what they're doing (in this case, working their way to the A2 boss) and scour this huge rear end dungeon for this valuable and rare item that might be theirs, if only they can find it. They'll keep asking you "Where is it??" constantly while you wander around the dungeon and say you plan to wait for the permanent allocation to wear off and don't want to tell or show them where it is. Harvest rage and tears.
This can last 15+ minutes easily, more for the extra gullible. Especially because even telling the truth plays into it -- "Nah guys, was just joking" leads to them thinking you're trying to get them to stop looking for the exalted orb.

regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Jun 12, 2013

Polka_Rapper
Jan 22, 2011

MissMarple posted:

This is exactly how I play Spy. I am terrible at Spy, but if you keep chipping away at people with the pistol from different parts of their spawn and running around invisible you can end up with a half dozen people who are completely 100% invested in a Spy Hunt whilst the rest of your team cleans house at the objective.

People just really goddamn hate Spies.

It was amazing when the Dead Ringer could recharge to full from a single ammo pack. (The TF2 Spy normally has a watch that allows him to cloak and become invisible. The Dead Ringer instead cloaks you when you take damage. You drop a fake body, instantly cloak and get 90% damage reduction for 6.5 seconds.) My brother would find a bunch of ammo packs, and just run a circuit between them, uncloaking right before picking up an ammo pack. He'd have most of the enemy team chasing him fruitlessly for a really long time. People on both teams got mad. One, because you just couldn't kill a DR Spy abusing ammo packs, and two "wtf useless noob spy just running around." He wouldn't fire a shot, or disguise. They knew he was a Spy, they knew where he was going, and they could not stop him.

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Guigui
Jan 19, 2010
Winner of January '10 Lux Aeterna "Best 2010 Poster" Award
In the same vein, I used to do that sort of tactic in WoW either in Arathi Basin or Eye of the Storm. There was just something that would cause people to snap if you snuck invisible behind enemy lines, moonfired (rank 1) the crap out of the people guarding the spawn, did the /flex animation, and then fast travel (cheetah form) out of there with the %15 speed boost set.

Some really-decked out warriors would spaz out and make it their mission to hunt you down; even if that meant leaving the node unguarded. Back then, though, druids used to be the masters of running away and healing themselves.

I think the funniest moment was from this one night-elf warrior who absolutely had to kill me, but after countless running away + rooting + cyclone + nature's grasp he wasn't being successful. Of course, he and his buddy weren't paying much attention - and right when it looked like they had cornered me, the entirety of the horde team ended up capturing the last spawn and swarmed the two of them while running towards the allie's spawn point.


Needless to say, they made some dummy characters on our server to voice their "displeasure" with my Arathi Basin gameplay tactics.

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