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theflyingorc posted:I'm...not sure what about the OUYA was misogyny I think he's saying the target market were misogynists, or more accurately Redditors.
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TetsuoTW posted:Yeah but they clearly never actually meant it. They were all about reinventing consoles and gaming and whatnot in the same way that MLMs are all about helping the little person break free of the 9-to-5 grind and become independently wealthy. Say what you want about Molyneux, but that motherfucker dreams big and believes it wholeheartedly. He's just constantly overambitious and unable to discern when it is time for quiet and/or realism. And Molyneux isn't a big dreamer. He's simply incapable of thinking an idea through and figuring out if it will translate to an actual compelling gameplay feature, or something that you'll do once and then ignore. He's literally the only person in the industry paid to be 100% an "Idea Guy" and I do not understand why people keep giving him money.
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Oct 4, 2013 09:59
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theflyingorc posted:As someone who has followed the OUYA way more than a human should - no, they believed it. Their idea was dumb, but they're too dumb top see it. He got in early and his stuff sells. Well enough to put his name next to a title and it making a difference.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:You have to click on houses sometimes to get resources, so people played like five minutes and then flipped their poo poo about how it's "obviously" just a Farmville clone now even though playing for more than five minutes reveals that it, in fact, is not.
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Oct 4, 2013 15:18
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theflyingorc posted:As someone who has followed the OUYA way more than a human should - no, they believed it. Their idea was dumb, but they're too dumb top see it. This may be the best summation of Peter Molyneux I have ever read.
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Oct 4, 2013 15:26
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theflyingorc posted:He's literally the only person in the industry paid to be 100% an "Idea Guy" and I do not understand why people keep giving him money. I was going to say that it's because he comes up with a lot of funny, bizarre, and sometimes really interesting ideas but then I remembered I was thinking of the petermolydeux twitter account. It's kind of sad when a parody of you is better at your schtick than you are.
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dijon du jour posted:I was going to say that it's because he comes up with a lot of funny, bizarre, and sometimes really interesting ideas but then I remembered I was thinking of the petermolydeux twitter account. Holy poo poo, that twitter account is hilarious. This video they did is pure gold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BEMGjCpTaE
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Oct 4, 2013 15:52
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I was really close to unfollowing Peter Molydeux (the fake twitter account) a few months ago because he stopped doing his thing and started promoting other real, quirky indie games. But it looks like he's back on track. Also, this picture is hilarious: https://twitter.com/PeterMolydeux/status/383612359316484096/photo/1
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Some of the game demos people have created based on the Molydeux Twitter are really awesome too. "Italian Rocket Riders" is fun (you drive in cars that can only go 0mph or 10,000mph while children walk around the racetrack) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqxSfya8Y5w And "Nebulous Hero" is a GREAT game where you unlock the instructions in order to find out that you've been doing everything incorrectly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoafPOZgey8 And the ever classic "You are the road" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1qFzLBkybE
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Noni posted:
So it's 35 dollars because the guy uses a wired mic and cant talk to his friends when he walks away. Or you could spend 35 dollars and get a xbox wireless headset. But you know, having a big loving harness attached to you at all times is probably better.
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Athanatos posted:So it's 35 dollars because the guy uses a wired mic and cant talk to his friends when he walks away. My controller is also my baby and will be carried in a similar fashion. Can't let this palm sweat and cheeto dust mixture leave my sight.
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I could see grognards wearing this at LANs/conventions. Sort of a "I'm such a hardass I refuse to use pubbie controls  " thing.
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Oct 4, 2013 18:08
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Athanatos posted:So it's 35 dollars because the guy uses a wired mic and cant talk to his friends when he walks away. Or you know, even spend $10 on one of those southeast China knockoff wireless mics on ebay that are made from the same molds and electronics but had too many scratches or dents to be sold as genuine Microsoft.
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theflyingorc posted:As someone who has followed the OUYA way more than a human should - no, they believed it. Their idea was dumb, but they're too dumb top see it. Why do you think he had to turn to Kickstarter? Why do you think he left Lionshead or whatever and started "99 cans" ? The investors finally wised up, the guy's career is a mess. They finally stopped giving him money. Sadly there's always saps on the internet to turn to.
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Zaphod42 posted:Why do you think he had to turn to Kickstarter? Why do you think he left Lionshead or whatever and started "99 cans" ? Considering that Populous came out in 1989, I feel confident in saying that Peter Molyneux has not made an uncontroversially good game since before I was born. That's a longass time for investors to take to wise up. I'll never understand how Fable 1 didn't end him, unless he's sold his soul to the devil or something. I think the biggest reason why he refuses to go away is that video game designers were beginning to get well-known in the 90's, and so you had people who only ever really had one good idea for a game hailed as visionary auteurs. It was a time where designers got to have their names in the title, and that would sell the game. The biggest difference between Peter Molyneux and the rest of them was that he was good at playing the part of the visionary auteur (read: have impossibly ambitious ideas, then take credit for the work of the people who struggle to turn them into a functional game), whereas the others eventually hit the limits of their creativity and faded from view after a high-profile failure (see: John Romero, Chris Roberts, Roberta Williams). [In my personal opinion, there have only ever been five true genius game designers: Shigeru Miyamoto (seriously, read some of his retrospectives on the design of the first Mario games), Sid Meier, Will Wright, Hideo Kojima, and Chris Crawford (crazy as he may be, he gets video games on an intuitive level like few others).]
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Ximen posted:He hyped his fans so many times over the last couple of years, examples is all the features that he promised for Fable / Black & White, and never delivered. You funded a Molyneux Kickstarter in the year 2013, it's your own fault. I just wish someone would make another Populous game already. Edit: wait quote:Godus is designed by Peter Molyneux and is the spiritual successor to his earlier creation, Populous. Is it any good? Does it involve fireblasting unsuspecting braves into lava? Phlegmish has a new favorite as of 19:12 on Oct 4, 2013 |
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pathetic little tramp posted:Some of the game demos people have created based on the Molydeux Twitter are really awesome too.  all three of these are incredible
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makomk posted:Having read the Kickstarter comments and looked at the review videos, you don't just have to click on houses to get resources, you also have to wait for real-time timers that are several minutes long to count down before you can click the houses, and you can pay "gems" in order to skip the waiting which will be purchasable using real money. (Oh, and after the first five minutes the game mechanics mean you spend more and more time waiting and less time clicking.) I've no idea why anyone could think it's a Farmville clone though! You build Settlements to collect a large area of houses resources into one statue, you mine gems not buy them(when you click the gem counter there's even a big popup saying there is no store), and again, using the settlements means you honestly only need to make a couple clicks every half hour or so for more of the resource than you'll be able to use in that half hour unless you literally just sit there clearing mountains down to the groundwater level or spam super expensive powers on open ground for shits and giggles. 90% of the complaints are dumbasses making assumptions wrongly, ignoring clear instructions from the game(and the fact that it's only ~40% complete) or doing stupid poo poo on purpose and then complaining that the game is bad when you purposefully try to play it wrong. Honestly, I click less to get resources in Godus than I do when playing an RTS(sending harvesting units to different resources points and the like). A Fancy 400 lbs has a new favorite as of 20:10 on Oct 4, 2013 |
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DStecks posted:I'll never understand how Fable 1 didn't end him, unless he's sold his soul to the devil or something. Because Fable 1: The Lost Chapters came out, and one of the Demon Doors had a floppy purple leopard-print pimp hat in it as a reward. I don't get Cornhole. It seems popular with the drunk crowd, but what happens if you don't have a crowd? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/403160020/cornhollertm-toss-excitement-into-americas-cornhol You have a thing that simulates a crowd, of course. To be fair, it looks like there's been some amount of work put into it, and it looks like it's pretty much ready to go, but...for cornhole?
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The Grammar Aryan posted:Because Fable 1: The Lost Chapters came out, and one of the Demon Doors had a floppy purple leopard-print pimp hat in it as a reward. I just can't take seriously anything that is named after an rear end in a top hat. Literally.
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I live in a farm town in the rural midwest and I've still never seen it called corn hole by anyone but someone trying to sell something related to it.
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DStecks posted:Considering that Populous came out in 1989, I feel confident in saying that Peter Molyneux has not made an uncontroversially good game since before I was born. That's a longass time for investors to take to wise up. I'll never understand how Fable 1 didn't end him, unless he's sold his soul to the devil or something. Add American McGee and Richard Garriott to the list of box names that were forgotten. And Suda51 is still doing it, although I think he's batshit, although others worship him. And I honestly think Kojima is overrated as gently caress, even though I've played and enjoyed all the metal gear solid games. He's batshit insane too. I guess batshit insane and playable and fun is better than boring, but its not exactly genius. Miyamoto's just on a different level than everybody else you mentioned, the only real game development 'genius' imo. Will Wright is pretty good too though. Sid Meier's good but only for strategy, so eh. Warren Spector used to be amazing but times have changed. I like Ken Levine's style a ton but I dunno if I'd call him a genius. Carmack I would actually call a genius but he doesn't know the first thing about game design, just good programming. Thing is as much of a failure as Fable 1 was compared to what Molyneux sold us on, I think it still sold really well. We bought the hype, and by the time we realized it was too late. Then you'd thing Fable 2 or 3 would suck, or wouldn't even get made, but apparently these days a brand name is a brand name, even if its a bad brand.
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That's called a corn hole? Really? I just call it loving bean bag toss. Because you toss bean bags. I guess that doesn't make sense with other sports, because in (American) football you don't foot balls, and in soccer you don't... well, soccer isn't a verb and "sock her" is definitely not something you do in the sport.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I live in a farm town in the rural midwest and I've still never seen it called corn hole by anyone but someone trying to sell something related to it. What the gently caress is "cornhole"? You throw bean bags through a hole in a board that's sitting on the ground?
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Zaphod42 posted:And I honestly think Kojima is overrated as gently caress, even though I've played and enjoyed all the metal gear solid games. He's batshit insane too. I guess batshit insane and playable and fun is better than boring, but its not exactly genius. And he owes me money for Black and White. And I didn't even purchase the game.
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Kro-Bar posted:What the gently caress is "cornhole"? You throw bean bags through a hole in a board that's sitting on the ground? Yes. Three points if you get it in the hole, one if you get it on the board, and it's cancellation scoring. It's pretty popular nationwide at this point.
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Kro-Bar posted:What the gently caress is "cornhole"? You throw bean bags through a hole in a board that's sitting on the ground? I'm guessing the "cornhole" name came from bags made with burlap and corn kernels being an easy and cheap home made bean bag if you're out in the country, if it's not just a modern made up name, but honestly everyone I know calls it bags or bag toss. It's just something to do at family/friend get togethers like graduation parties and the like.
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Protocol7 posted:"sock her" is definitely not something you do in the sport. Tell that to several professional athletes.
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Some Other Guy posted:It's pretty popular nationwide at this point. What loving nation do you live in?
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Geirskogul posted:What loving nation do you live in? I see it played at played in stadium lots tailgate parties whenever I go to watch The Sports, which is rarely, but still. Here in the USA. 
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Geirskogul posted:What loving nation do you live in? You can go tailgating anywhere in the US and see people playing it.
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Tailgate that cornhole!
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Pingiivi posted:Tailgate that cornhole! I'm going to have to tell you to cease and desist from talking about my upcoming adult film "Tailgate That Cornhole!" in public at this time. We are not yet releasing information about it to the public.
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Count Chocula posted:I was pretty annoyed when I heard this. I know there's legal reasons but there's already so much anti-GMO hysteria and regulation that this just removed another avenue for research. Well, there was this thing: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/930368578/openpcr-open-source-biotech-on-your-desktop?ref=live Now someone just needs to find a way to make a DNA synthesizer out of a Raspberry Pi and laser-cut plywood.
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By the way, the new patch for the beta of Godus that came out today just rebalanced the entire early game. This time it only took me 30 minutes to get settlements. The early tier buildings now give you belief when you release a new believer to build a house, and the amount of belief you get from clearing the environment seems to have been upped too.
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Zaphod42 posted:Add American McGee and Richard Garriott to the list of box names that were forgotten. I'd forgotten about them.  Zaphod42 posted:And I honestly think Kojima is overrated as gently caress, even though I've played and enjoyed all the metal gear solid games. He's batshit insane too. I guess batshit insane and playable and fun is better than boring, but its not exactly genius. I'm not saying Kojima's a genius because of the quality of his games, I'm talking about it on the basis of how he approaches games. Here's how I see it: right now, games are still in their infancy. When film was at the same developmental stage games are now, movie directors approached their medium as theatre committed to film. Most game designers today generally think about games as essentially movies with interactivity. Kojima seems to get the fundamental nature of the interactivity, and how it creates compelling experiences. That's not to say he always makes great games, but he seems to "get it", as it were. theflyingorc's comparison of him to Molyneux is spot-on. I'd say that while Molyneux does "get it", he's too dumb to apply it correctly. Zaphod42 posted:Warren Spector used to be amazing but times have changed. I like Ken Levine's style a ton but I dunno if I'd call him a genius. I would personally put Spector in the "lucked into a good idea for a game" category, it's just that he was able to have a few good ideas. Ken Levine is a talented craftsman, but his work is pretty textbook games-as-playable-movies, he's just aware of the conventions of interactivity. I considered mentioning Carmack in my post, but I didn't for exactly what you said: Carmack might just be the smartest man to ever work in video games, but he isn't a designer. I wouldn't say he doesn't know the first thing about design, though, since if Masters of Doom is anything to go by, he was the driving force behind Doom being so sleek and tightly focused in its design. Romero wanted to create a full-blown RPG, but Carmack convinced him that a more minimalist design would work better.
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DStecks posted:Considering that Populous came out in 1989, I feel confident in saying that Peter Molyneux has not made an uncontroversially good game since before I was born. That's a longass time for investors to take to wise up. I'll never understand how Fable 1 didn't end him, unless he's sold his soul to the devil or something. Hey man the movies was a pretty cool game.
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The Movies helped got me an A in a college literature class because it allowed me to adapt a Margaret Atwood story over a weekend, so I'll give Molyneux that.
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DStecks posted:Most game designers today generally think about games as essentially movies with interactivity. Kojima seems to get the fundamental nature of the interactivity
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