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Amused to Death: Aug 10, 2009; google "The Night Witches", and prepare for

Mr Hootington posted:

I wasn't sure if a text I received from my ultra right wing step-grandpa would count, but I'll share it. It reads like a chain text.

I just don't even know how to reply to the him.

Then people at like $200k should really count their blessings and shut up about having to pay a somewhat higher tax rate to help others.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 02:00

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# ? May 15, 2024 13:57

EightBit: Jan 7, 2006; I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

Mr Hootington posted:

I wasn't sure if a text I received from my ultra right wing step-grandpa would count, but I'll share it. It reads like a chain text.

I just don't even know how to reply to the him.

Point out that life sucking for most people is no reason to accept a poor quality of life or expect people to keep trucking on like that.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 02:04

Trivia: Feb 8, 2006; I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.

Though it is not the be-all-to-end-all, this video posits that wealth inequality means little between nations and everything within them.

http://www.ted.com/talks/richard_wilkinson.html

# ? Oct 23, 2013 02:17

Mornacale: Dec 19, 2007; n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

I don't understand how someone could read that statistic and not immediately think "we need to tear down society, this poo poo is hosed on a massive scale." Nope, everything's as it should be, just need a little less complaining!

# ? Oct 23, 2013 02:17

Mr Hootington: Jul 24, 2008; Can't post for 5 hours!

Thanks Amused to Death and Eightbit those are both great and I will use them. Will be great to see the newest aspect of his really lovely opinions surface.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 02:33

hamster_style: Nov 24, 2004; neenjah!

I'm not sure what to say to this. There's just so much, and my ears are ringing. And of course she wraps it all up with the Cosby Defense; "I don't care if he said it, or if it's true, it's true!"

# ? Oct 23, 2013 02:46

The Rokstar: Aug 19, 2002; by FactsAreUseless

hamster_style posted:

I'm not sure what to say to this. There's just so much, and my ears are ringing. And of course she wraps it all up with the Cosby Defense; "I don't care if he said it, or if it's true, it's true!"

I'm surprised you didn't immediately get attacked for posting a DU link. Most right wing types view that site the same way we view sites like Freep.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 03:50

VideoTapir: Oct 18, 2005; He'll tire eventually.

The Rokstar posted:

I'm surprised you didn't immediately get attacked for posting a DU link. Most right wing types view that site the same way we view sites like Freep.

Christ, *I* view it the same way I view...well, Pre-Obama Freep.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 03:51

hamster_style: Nov 24, 2004; neenjah!

The Rokstar posted:

I'm surprised you didn't immediately get attacked for posting a DU link. Most right wing types view that site the same way we view sites like Freep.

Yeah it wasn't my first choice, but I was on mobile and the top links were redirecting to the main page, and I'm lazy. I don't think she's in the know so much as to know what DU is. If so, I would have dug deeper.

I have to say that the "culture of poverty doesn't value education" really struck a nerve with me. I want to scream. Is this something people actually think?

ed: I didn't realize DU was that bad.

hamster_style fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Oct 23, 2013

# ? Oct 23, 2013 04:19

Mister Bates: Aug 4, 2010

VideoTapir posted:

Christ, *I* view it the same way I view...well, Pre-Obama Freep.

Yeah, DU is pretty awful. It's not quite as bad as Freep but that isn't exactly high loving praise.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 04:29

Breadallelogram: Oct 9, 2012

What the gently caress is this?

Is there any factual basis for this, or just some more Obamacare myths?

# ? Oct 23, 2013 04:37

Mahuum Aqoha: Jan 15, 2004; SHEPARD!
Do it for the universe!; Fun Shoe

There's a rash of secessionist crap going around now that the Republicans lost their fight against the debt limit increase and Obamacare, my uncle just shared this awful crap:

quote:

THERE ARE TWO AMERICA'S AND THEY CANNOT CO EXIST!

Yup...there are indeed two Americas,

The first America (SHOWN IN BLUE) exists largely along the coasts and big cities, gets their news from Katie Couric and reads the Huffington Post or Daily Kos and think Obama is doing a mighty fine job based on the lap dog media that feeds them this garbage.

The second America exists (SHOWN IN RED ) in the heartland, the suburbs, exurbs and rural area, gets their news from FOX, the radio and regularly visits Drudge and the enlightened internet which has direct access to facts and videos that are never show on the OMG MEDIA Network. ( OBAMA MEDIA GROUP)

The first America believes that government is the solution to problems and that paying unemployment benefits has far more stimulative effect on the economy than lowering taxes.... but they also want the SECOND AMERICA IN THEIR MIX so that they can work hard and make the money to pay for all these programs. They do not want anyone from the Second America to leave the system.

The second America believes that individuals and private enterprise are the solution to problems and the government�s role is just to make certain that people play by the rules.

The first America hears Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin and Sean Hannity and Conservative Talk radio and TV, and they cringe as they logically attacks their belief system attributing their disagreements and humor at their expense ....as hate speech. ( RACISTS, BIGOT, TEA PARTY TYPES)

The second America hears Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin and Sean Hannity and Conservative Talk radio and TV and cheers because finally someone is espousing their values.

The first America sees Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Sarah Palin and others and dismisses them quickly and rabidly because he/she doesn�t have the Ivy League education that they value so highly and they espouse values that will tear down the fabric of dependency that they need.. and must be provided by the working Americans of the Second type!.

The second America hears Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Mike Lee, Sarah Palin and others and gets excited as they stand toe to toe with the Ivy educated masters of the universe and give better and more than they get.

The first America listens to National Public Radio, and MSNBC and NBC and ABC and CNN and CBS and don't think it is liberal, but instead it is just informed.

The second America views Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin and Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and Conservative Talk radio and TV, and finds them to be factual, Conservative and interesting, and enlightening as they tackle topics that others veer away from.

The first America preaches tolerance and decries harsh rhetoric while at the same time calling the second America every negative names they can legally on air.

The second America can�t understand why they are attacked by the first America, and now they know after 5 years of Obama that they are looking to wrest away the country from the Founders and are working to "fundamentally transform" the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. The first America consists of godless socialists and Marxists, disguised as progressives, who are bent on destroying their nation in cahoots with an Islamic Mob that also wants America as part of the Muslim Caliphate.

The first and second America view the same event and come to entirely different and conflicting conclusions. This may be because they get their information about these events through entirely different lenses, or it could be that we choose different lenses because we view events from entirely different perspectives.

With all of the challenges facing our nation, perhaps the largest is can these two Americas co-exist when they don�t speak the same language, get their information from the same sources, or even have a common frame of reference?

Well my answer is probably NO.... We are now two separate countries. So we can either:

a) Revolt and subjugate the other side and have a resentful, angry, and violent populace in our midst that we must deal with for a very long time.

or

b) We can Secede and Restart our portion of the country and seal our borders and ban all the Socialists and Islamists and Moochers from coming over to our side and create our Constitutional Republic with better safeguards so that this does not happen again! This is not unprecedented. Look at the former USSR, the Balkans, the once united Czech Republic and Slovakia, the once united Korea's etc. etc. Of course, in our own history we were once split in to the Union and Confederacy and Texas was one an independent and sovereign nation.

or

c) We can pray to Almighty God for divine intervention and let Him sort it out

or

d) We can do nothing (i.e., surrender) and just try to survive and let future generations of Americans fend for themselves.

Many of us have and continue to do "c" above but so far no luck. That is unless God has been pointing us to "a" above and we haven't been paying attention. Right now "a" looks like our best option.

ITS REALLY THOSE FOUR CHOICES LEFT..
PLEASE READ AND SHARE AND DECIDE..

WHAT DO YOU THINK PATRIOTS ??

I got A and B mixed up when I first read this so I first thought it was some secessionist crap, but it's actually some Civil War 2 crap. I responded with "Gerrymandering doesn't exist! The people who live in each district agree 100% with their elected congressperson!" and he liked it, so MAYBE he isn't advocating for civil war and violent subjugation of all the people he doesn't like. :ohdear:

# ? Oct 23, 2013 05:05

myron cope: Apr 21, 2009

Breadallelogram posted:

What the gently caress is this?

Is there any factual basis for this, or just some more Obamacare myths?

She's on Medicare anyway

# ? Oct 23, 2013 05:08

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

Mornacale posted:

I don't understand how someone could read that statistic and not immediately think "we need to tear down society, this poo poo is hosed on a massive scale." Nope, everything's as it should be, just need a little less complaining!

Well it's more complicated than that. "Tearing it down" is not only some libertarian fantasy for people within the US, it'd basically destroy the global economy as we know it along with it.

I'm not endorsing the status quo, but that we've sort of trapped ourselves in a position where we cant just say "Revolution" and all will be well.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 05:13

Agents are GO!: Dec 29, 2004

ArchangeI posted:

See, now I'm imagining a pseudo-feudal society where the various companies feud like the kings of medieval Europe.

Microsoft and Apple are locked in a century-old struggle over the production rights to the PC. But now the God-CEO-King of Apple has died, and his heir's claim is weak. The R&D and production departments are ready to declare independence while the forces of Microsoft gather for the knockout blow. But from afar, IBM has watched carefully, and has now called its levies to join the war - but is it for a share in the spoils or to side with Apple and crush the tyranny of Microsoft once and for all.

I would totally read a satirical fantasy/scifi novel about this.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 05:21

Emanuel Collective: Jan 16, 2008; by Smythe

Mahuum Aqoha posted:

There's a rash of secessionist crap going around now that the Republicans lost their fight against the debt limit increase and Obamacare, my uncle just shared this awful crap:

I got A and B mixed up when I first read this so I first thought it was some secessionist crap, but it's actually some Civil War 2 crap. I responded with "Gerrymandering doesn't exist! The people who live in each district agree 100% with their elected congressperson!" and he liked it, so MAYBE he isn't advocating for civil war and violent subjugation of all the people he doesn't like.

I'm glad the author of that thing thinks "Holocaust II" is a better option than "secession"

# ? Oct 23, 2013 05:23

Mornacale: Dec 19, 2007; n=y where
y=hope and n=folly,
prospects=lies, win=lose,

self=Pirates

RagnarokAngel posted:

Well it's more complicated than that. "Tearing it down" is not only some libertarian fantasy for people within the US, it'd basically destroy the global economy as we know it along with it.

I'm not endorsing the status quo, but that we've sort of trapped ourselves in a position where we cant just say "Revolution" and all will be well.

I'm not saying you should get up and start breaking windows right away, but if you look at that and your immediate impression is that it's a just and reasonable situation then what the hell is wrong with you? Even though it's misleading to compare between countries, as someone pointed out, it seems so blatantly clear that enormous numbers of people are just completely hosed over, and I don't understand anyone who fails to either notice or care.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 05:57

RagnarokAngel: Oct 5, 2006; Black Magic Extraordinaire

Simply: humans are bad at statistics. I know so many people who think they can become that 1% one day so they dont want their future earnings to be taxed. Of course theres 2 absurd parts about that, the first being that statistically the odds of earning your way to the 1% is almost 0, and second even if you taxed them a little more you'd still make so much goddamn money, is ignored by the same problem: People cannot fathom the math behind those numbers.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 06:01

Regalingualius: Jan 7, 2012; We gazed into the eyes of madness... And all we found was horny.

Nor the idea that inflation will more than most likely make it such that, even if they ever do make the salaries they dream about now, those figures will probably only be a comparatively tiny boost in wage all those years later.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 06:29

Push El Burrito: May 9, 2006; Soiled Meat

Mahuum Aqoha posted:

There's a rash of secessionist crap going around now that the Republicans lost their fight against the debt limit increase and Obamacare, my uncle just shared this awful crap:

I got A and B mixed up when I first read this so I first thought it was some secessionist crap, but it's actually some Civil War 2 crap. I responded with "Gerrymandering doesn't exist! The people who live in each district agree 100% with their elected congressperson!" and he liked it, so MAYBE he isn't advocating for civil war and violent subjugation of all the people he doesn't like.

Obama Media Group Media Network

# ? Oct 23, 2013 06:32

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Mahuum Aqoha posted:

There's a rash of secessionist crap going around now that the Republicans lost their fight against the debt limit increase and Obamacare, my uncle just shared this awful crap:

You should throw back a map that's scales the areas by population density.A whole lot of "Red America" is just empty rural space.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 07:12

Shalebridge Cradle: Apr 23, 2008

Mahuum Aqoha posted:

There's a rash of secessionist crap going around now that the Republicans lost their fight against the debt limit increase and Obamacare, my uncle just shared this awful crap:

I got A and B mixed up when I first read this so I first thought it was some secessionist crap, but it's actually some Civil War 2 crap. I responded with "Gerrymandering doesn't exist! The people who live in each district agree 100% with their elected congressperson!" and he liked it, so MAYBE he isn't advocating for civil war and violent subjugation of all the people he doesn't like.

I've always loved these type of things. They complain about the lazy blue counties full of moochers, but at the same time that map contains nearly every large city in America. Because god knows New York City and Los Angeles don't make any money.

Also holy crap North Carolina is gerrymandered to hell and back.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 08:00

Wolfsheim: Dec 23, 2003; "Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

The utter ridiculousness of all the CWII garbage aside, it makes me laugh every time Ted Cruz is touted as a righteous defender against the evil ivy league egghead liberals. The guy who was so loving ivy league he basically started a "Harvard or GTFO" club.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 08:10

Vivian Darkbloom: Jul 14, 2004

Duncan Doenitz posted:

This one has probably been around for a while, but it's my first time seeing it, and it's probably the most vitriolic public assistance-shaming I've ever seen.

Bonus points: The guy that shared it used to be in the Army!

Government employees reforming from within :rolleyes:

# ? Oct 23, 2013 09:29

J.A.B.C.: Jul 2, 2007; There's no need to rush to be an adult.

Duncan Doenitz posted:

This one has probably been around for a while, but it's my first time seeing it, and it's probably the most vitriolic public assistance-shaming I've ever seen.

quote:
WRITTEN BY A 21 YEAR OLD FEMALE.

PUT ME IN CHARGE . . .

Put me in charge of food stamps. I'd get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we'll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, or smoke, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the "common good.."

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self esteem," consider that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND While you are on Gov't subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov't welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

Now, if you have the guts - PASS IT ON...I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GET THIS BACK, IF EVERYONE SENDS IT, I WILL GET OVER 220 BACK!!! I WOULD KNOW YOU SENT IT ON!!!

Glory to ~~Arztotska~~ Amerika! Cause no trouble and get a job, or you will be nothing more than unpaid labor for our glorious nation!

My gods, the amount of fascist superiority from some of these 'freedom-loving' people is just jaw-dropping.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 09:52

Chin Strap: Nov 24, 2002; I failed my TFLC Toxx, but I no longer need a double chin strap; Pillbug

Mahuum Aqoha posted:

There's a rash of secessionist crap going around now that the Republicans lost their fight against the debt limit increase and Obamacare, my uncle just shared this awful crap:

I got A and B mixed up when I first read this so I first thought it was some secessionist crap, but it's actually some Civil War 2 crap. I responded with "Gerrymandering doesn't exist! The people who live in each district agree 100% with their elected congressperson!" and he liked it, so MAYBE he isn't advocating for civil war and violent subjugation of all the people he doesn't like.

I'd rather they just stick with C.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 10:38

Walter: Jul 3, 2003; We think they're great. In a grand, mystical, neopolitical sense, these guys have a real message in their music. They don't, however, have neat names like me and Bono.

Mr Hootington posted:

I wasn't sure if a text I received from my ultra right wing step-grandpa would count, but I'll share it. It reads like a chain text.

I just don't even know how to reply to the him.

"And if the cost of living was the same for a person living in New York as it is for a person living in the Congo, that would mean something."

Or

"And since most of the universe sits at about 2.7 degrees above absolute zero, that makes Antarctica one of the warmest places in the universe. So why aren't you heading down for a weekend on the beach?"

# ? Oct 23, 2013 11:17

De Nomolos: Jan 17, 2007; TV rots your brain like it's crack cocaine

gradenko_2000 posted:

You should throw back a map that's scales the areas by population density.A whole lot of "Red America" is just empty rural space.

I love the map they used. One district in GA is grey for some reason. I think it's because it wasn't called immediately on election night 2010 and for some reason, they're using a map from the day after the 2010 election.

Either that, or they want SW GA to be its own nation.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 13:49

The Macaroni: Dec 20, 2002; ...it does nothing.

I also love the librul leftist region of Southeastern Utah. Yeah, that hotbed of socialist un-American insurgency. (Whose congressman is a complete DINO who usually votes with the Republicans in the House.) ~~RAHOWA~~ I mean POHOWA!

# ? Oct 23, 2013 14:17

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

De Nomolos posted:

I love the map they used. One district in GA is grey for some reason. I think it's because it wasn't called immediately on election night 2010 and for some reason, they're using a map from the day after the 2010 election.

Either that, or they want SW GA to be its own nation.

Along with ceding south Arizona and a slither of Texas back to Mexico.

e: And there's another gray district in north Washington. I guess that goes to the British under an amended Oregon Treaty.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 14:34

CommieGIR: Aug 22, 2006; The blue glow is a feature, not a bug; Pillbug

Duncan Doenitz posted:

This one has probably been around for a while, but it's my first time seeing it, and it's probably the most vitriolic public assistance-shaming I've ever seen.

Bonus points: The guy that shared it used to be in the Army!

Holy racist authoritarian batman!

"If you are low income you have to LOOK the part."

# ? Oct 23, 2013 14:48

totalnewbie: Nov 13, 2005; I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

gradenko_2000 posted:

You should throw back a map that's scales the areas by population density.A whole lot of "Red America" is just empty rural space.

Here you go: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/

# ? Oct 23, 2013 14:51

Generic American: Mar 15, 2012; I love my Peng

Oh boy! I was feeling so left out lately, what with my direct family being relatively sane when it comes to lovely political opinions (aside from one minor hiccup with " :byodame:

HEALTHCARE IS A PRIVILEGE :byodame:

" and some general anti-welfare bitching that is beyond fixing). But for some reason today, half my goddamn family tree decided to start tagging each other in posts and sharing the wisdom of our prophet, Archie Bunker, spliced together with various speeches made by Obama to make them real zingers.

The video in question.

I really hope this doesn't become A Thing, because holy hell is that audio quality giving the content a run for its money.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 15:08

FuzzySkinner: May 23, 2012

I just saw tagged under "TCOT" a photoshopped picture that featured a member of the Marine Corp with a gun pointed at the President's head.

Lovely.

Really, really tempted to write the Secret Service an email stating what I just saw.

Here's the link. I'd upload it on IMGUR, but then again I don't even want to toy around with this sort of crap.

https://twitter.com/sixonesixband/status/390620012957802496/photo/1

# ? Oct 23, 2013 15:11

Breadallelogram: Oct 9, 2012

Generic American posted:

Oh boy! I was feeling so left out lately, what with my direct family being relatively sane when it comes to lovely political opinions (aside from one minor hiccup with "HEALTHCARE IS A PRIVILEGE" and some general anti-welfare bitching that is beyond fixing). But for some reason today, half my goddamn family tree decided to start tagging each other in posts and sharing the wisdom of our prophet, Archie Bunker, spliced together with various speeches made by Obama to make them real zingers.

The video in question.

I really hope this doesn't become A Thing, because holy hell is that audio quality giving the content a run for its money.

Yes, Archie Bunker, the reactionary and somewhat racist caricature; a hero we can all look up to.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 15:12

Walter: Jul 3, 2003; We think they're great. In a grand, mystical, neopolitical sense, these guys have a real message in their music. They don't, however, have neat names like me and Bono.

totalnewbie posted:

Here you go: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/

No conservative is going to look twice at a link that shows the US of A in any shape other than the one that was predestined by the good Lord. What kind of communist would do that to our beloved homeland?

# ? Oct 23, 2013 15:40

De Nomolos: Jan 17, 2007; TV rots your brain like it's crack cocaine

Breadallelogram posted:

Yes, Archie Bunker, the reactionary and somewhat racist caricature; a hero we can all look up to.

Fun Fact: Carol O'Connor was a strong union supporter and was once written out of a storyline on All In The Family because he refused to cross a pickett line for a production crew strike.

# ? Oct 23, 2013 15:42