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etalian posted:Yeah the US was a strategic backwater compared to all the trouble Napoleon was causing in Europe which is probably the main reason why the US didn't get crushed. I imagine 1812 would have ended up like the Opium wars had Britain actually had nothing else on their plate at the time.
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radical meme posted:If you listen to the live stream of Mark Levin's radio show from his website, they play a string of Levin's greatest hits during local radio commercial breaks and one of them is him stating that before FDR it was easy to find and pay for a private doctor of your choosing but you can't do that now. The guy really wants to turn back the clock to the gilded age. There's a reason why it's called "The Gilded Age". Gold paint on top, poo poo underneath. Of course conservatives only see the gold paint.
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^^^ Rich people had it loving great back then, and I am a rich person today so thereforeradical meme posted:If you listen to the live stream of Mark Levin's radio show from his website, they play a string of Levin's greatest hits during local radio commercial breaks and one of them is him stating that before FDR it was easy to find and pay for a private doctor of your choosing but you can't do that now. The guy really wants to turn back the clock to the gilded age. He just doesn't even pretend to acknowledge the situation the poor and working class were in back then, does he?
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Oct 25, 2013 01:24
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computer parts posted:I imagine 1812 would have ended up like the Opium wars had Britain actually had nothing else on their plate at the time. Even with fairly limited military resources Britain was also able to devastate the US economy by cutting off trade and could easily just have starved out the whole country in a longer term conflict.
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Oct 25, 2013 01:26
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mr. mephistopheles posted:^^^ Rich people had it loving great back then, and I am a rich person today so therefore It was easier then than ever to strike it rich. Just go panning for gold in Californee, or open up a homestead on free land taken by the government from the Injuns anywhere in the midwest. The working poor of the cities were just a bunch of foreign layabouts who lacked the true American adventuring spirit.
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Oct 25, 2013 01:35
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Crasscrab posted:Also don't read Eric Schlosser's new book Command and Control: Nuclear Weapons, the Damascus Accident, and the Illusion of Safety, which covers the many nuclear weapons related accidents that occurred during the Cold War and since then. If you're into that sort of thing like I am it's a really great read. Talks about all the times planes carrying nuclear bombs have crashed, the times we misplaced nuclear warheads, and how we gave nuclear weapons to NATO allies that looking back was not a very good idea. I saw Schlosser when he was in Houston recently and KPFT is playing a recording of the speech tonight, if anyone wants to hear it. Podcast should be up soon.
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Sir Tonk posted:I saw Schlosser when he was in Houston recently and KPFT is playing a recording of the speech tonight, if anyone wants to hear it. Podcast should be up soon. It's a great book showing how the world came close to disaster so many times and only seemed to survive on pure luck for things such as the Carolinas almost getting two new big craters. Or the story how a single dropped hex wrench endied up destroying a multi-million dollar nuke silo in a spectacular fashion.
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I was just listening to Levin and he made quite the interesting claim, one that's germane to the "Gilded Age" talk above. He was arguing with a caller about regulations, the minimum wage, etc. claiming that America had been economically ascendant before those regs and the dreaded "New Deal" came along. His finishing blow? He asked something like: How did America create such a powerful middle class before the New Deal came along and ruined it? Haha.
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mr. mephistopheles posted:He has some decent views and some not so decent views, which I feel puts him in the range of "normal sane person." He's about as close to a sensible conservative as you're going to get in modern politics. He's exponentially more intelligent than the gibbering apes currently running the Republican Party. It should be noted that he bought into the skewed polls, energized base, Mitt Romney is on a sure path to victory stuff in a big way, so he's not someone who's analysis I'd put a lot of faith in. Though that describes huge swathes of conservative pundits, so it's not like he's alone. etalian posted:Even with fairly limited military resources Britain was also able to devastate the US economy by cutting off trade and could easily just have starved out the whole country in a longer term conflict. Of course the British merchant class was already loudly complaining about the economic burden that the loss of American trade and the work of American privateers were inflicting. An attempted victory through an even more drawn out blockade would have stood a strong chance of political failure. In both the American Revolution and the War in 1812 the political and economic realities of sending the full force of the British Army across the Atlantic in the Age of Sail meant that outright crushing the Americans was infeasible, and the alternative of fighting a protracted war for questionable gain was also fairly unpalatable to many British business and political figures.
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FMguru posted:A bloodsoaked neocon warmonger, curdled and bitter with a lump of dogshit for a heart, his columns are always on the verge of referring to the President as "boy".
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Oct 25, 2013 02:18
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FuzzySkinner posted:Dumb question, what is the goon consensus on Charles Krauthammer?
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ReindeerF posted:Dude looks like Dr. Chilton from Silence of the Lambs, too. The pool-diving incident gives him a lot of street cred as clever, though I should probably be dead by the same metric, so I shouldn't make fun. I just thought it's why he suddenly went from promising med student to nutbar.
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quote:RUSH: Now, according to CBS MarketWatch, the regime will delay enforcement of the personal mandate extending how long Americans may go uninsured before facing a penalty under --" all of this is moot now. If you do not get a tax refund, all this is moot. Senate Democrats, Dana Bash, CNN, we got it coming up with the audio sound bites. Senate Democrats up for reelection unanimously want to delay the individual mandate 'til January 2015, after the election. Yes. You heard right. They want to delay the individual mandate. I loved his bemoaning of the media's characterization of Tea Partiers at the beginning but holy gently caress. Obama is so incompetent that he designed a system to fail in such a way that he will usher in a single payer healthcare system. But he can't do that! The government is being blamed! People now hate the Government! The exact thing we want them to do! drat YOU OBAMA!!! I love you Obama Years 2000-2008 of this article just never ceases to amuse me
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Oct 25, 2013 04:21
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mr. mephistopheles posted:He just doesn't even pretend to acknowledge the situation the poor and working class were in back then, does he? Nope. I think it was tuesday, he was going off on Obamacare was bad because there just wasn't enough doctors for everyone. He just never seemed to make the connection that he was basically saying the US has a doctor shortage and that some people just have to do without so that others can see doctors quickly and pay reasonable prices. Nevermind what happens to those who just have to do without.
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Oct 25, 2013 07:12
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mr. mephistopheles posted:He just doesn't even pretend to acknowledge the situation the poor and working class were in back then, does he? Why would he? In his view the poor are a resource, to be distributed and used up for profit, only to be replaced once they have outlived/outworked their ability to make him money. If they had his sort of powerful, can-do Randian spirit, then they wouldn't be poor, now would they?  ...Gods, I need medication after reading that. I feel gross.
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Oct 25, 2013 07:47
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Alex Jones has compiled a list of all the FALSE FAINTS for your viewing pleasure.
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Oct 25, 2013 12:18
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This lady on Mike Church was reviewing a movie and gave it one-and-a-half Reagans  .Look, review a movie from a conservative perspective if you want, but have some dignity.
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Oct 25, 2013 13:54
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:This lady on Mike Church was reviewing a movie and gave it one-and-a-half Reagans But Reagan was a star!
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Oct 25, 2013 13:57
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Beowulfs_Ghost posted:Nope. I have co-workers that make the logical conclusion of this argument without the window dressing and it's hard to not point out how monstrous that opinion is.
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OMG JC a Bomb! posted:This lady on Mike Church was reviewing a movie and gave it one-and-a-half Reagans Wonder what she thinks of Comic Books. http://www.ep.tc/grenada/ 
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beatlegs posted:Understand that when many of these ultra rightwingers go on talk shows that aren't propaganda arms of the GOP, especially if they're mainstream entertainment shows, they deliberately moderate themselves. If you want to know where they really stand, watch them when they're in sympathetic company, with their guards down. Not to mention that most of the points he made were severely flawed, beyond not even being in the same more-moderate position he takes on Fox Shows.
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StandardVC10 posted:Didn't we get out asses kicked in the War of 1812? I mean, eventually it paid off in that Britain actually paid attention to US sovereignty, but we weren't really prepared for it and kept losing battles. Sorta. On land the US was not doing very well, but at sea US and privateers actually did quite well. In the end England decided that fighting Napoleon made more sense, and the war ended. Only no one told Andrew Jackson and the Brits in New Orleans so the US got to end the war on a high note.
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HootTheOwl posted:Sorta. On land the US was not doing very well, but at sea US and privateers actually did quite well. In the end England decided that fighting Napoleon made more sense, and the war ended. Only no one told Andrew Jackson and the Brits in New Orleans so the US got to end the war on a high note. Yeah, the Naval War of 1812 is actually pretty interesting; all of America's victories were minor, but the fact that America *had* naval victories against England was *hugely* demoralizing to the British, who were used to total naval supremacy. Strategically they were of no significance but they were huge moral victories.
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On Fox News, apparently Obama wants Marines to wear girly hats Come on. Really?  I don't see it. They look like regular Marine hats to me.
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Damonic posted:On Fox News, apparently Obama wants Marines to wear girly hats God, that's the actual headline.
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Damonic posted:On Fox News, apparently Obama wants Marines to wear girly hats That is from Duffleblog, which is basically The Onion for the armed forces. The New York Post and Washington Times also ran the story as real. The official military response. Fuckt Tupp fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Oct 25, 2013 |
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Monkey Fracas posted:God, that's the actual headline. I had someone share that recently on Facebook. When it was pointed out that Obama has literally nothing to do with the decision, the poster argued Obama should have "ordered those in charge of the uniform change to STAND DOWN," like he was preventing an ICBM from being launched or something. Because it'll cost money to make the change, and this is bad because DEBT.
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Oct 25, 2013 20:55
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Damonic posted:On Fox News, apparently Obama wants Marines to wear girly hats Yup. Nothing more manly than bitching about accessories and whether or not they match the rest of your outfit.
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Oct 25, 2013 21:05
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It's umbrella-gate all over again.
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Don't worry they'll do the right thing and run a correction...a week later...on a twitter account no one reads.
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Damonic posted:On Fox News, apparently Obama wants Marines to wear girly hats It would make some amount of sense if they complained it looked a bit like a French kepi and Obama was Frogging up the troops (it still be a stupid complaint of course), but I just can't see what makes the new cap 'girly' at all. fake edit: Ah, the Duffleblog. Scourge of all conservatives attempting to use the military as a prop.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Don't worry they'll do the right thing and run a correction...a week later...on a twitter account no one reads.
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Those "girly hats" look a lot like french foreign legion hats to me. I hear those guys are pretty girly though.
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ProperGanderPusher posted:I had someone share that recently on Facebook. When it was pointed out that Obama has literally nothing to do with the decision, the poster argued Obama should have "ordered those in charge of the uniform change to STAND DOWN," like he was preventing an ICBM from being launched or something. Because it'll cost money to make the change, and this is bad because DEBT. Ugh, This is dumb for the who-the-gently caress-cares you described and because it WON'T cost ANYONE money! And if it does, service members actually receive money every year to cover maintaining their uniform. Also I'm pretty sure no one is forced to change their uniform on day one. (deployments being an exception, but you are usually given new ones for that)
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Damonic posted:On Fox News, apparently Obama wants Marines to wear girly hats Yeah, that's a girly hat, only a total sissy would...   Oh.quote:"Sgt. Maj. Dan Daly, a two-time Medal of Honor recipient who yelled, “Come on, you sons of bitches, do you want to live forever?” as he led Marines into the fight at Belleau Wood during World War I, wore a cap similar to the option proposed by the survey." Oh.
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Internet Webguy posted:That is from Duffleblog, which is basically The Onion for the armed forces. The New York Post and Washington Times also ran the story as real. It's almost as if right-wing media is run by hyperbolic morons willing to believe anything!
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Zeroisanumber posted:Yeah, that's a girly hat, only a total sissy would... I love how there's apparently no protocol for wearing multiple Medals of Honor so he just kinda has that weird swagger going on.
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CNN: Guys we need to figure out a new clock to use since our count down to default is done and our count up of the shut down day is done. Any ideas?
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:CNN: Guys we need to figure out a new clock to use since our count down to default is done and our count up of the shut down day is done. Any ideas? Ted Turner, please... Put this old dog out of its misery.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:CNN: Guys we need to figure out a new clock to use since our count down to default is done and our count up of the shut down day is done. Any ideas? So are they going to credit Jon Stewart when they eventually make his idea 'Clockfire' a real show?
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