Jedit posted:

Show your support for the 2nd Amendment by wearing a T-shirt with a picture of a holstered gun on it. Well, I don't see how that could go wrong.

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This shirt can be legally worn everywhere

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(with the exception of schools)

Dachshundofdoom posted:

Insane delusions of grandeur? Check. Vampires? Check. Ugly, uninspired comic art and premise? Check.

Dachshundofdoom posted:

Alice in Wonderland. Fat shirtless clowns. A "comic" made in Poser.

Blue Moonlight posted:

KittyLitter posted:

I must admit - I've somehow managed to remain ignorant of the latest memes and interweb sayings. That said, I am having a rather amusing time trying to understand what that picture means in this context.

I currently think it means : Suck my big purple dick.

Veotax posted:

It's a character from Doug. His catchphrase was "Very expensive!".

KittyLitter posted:

Well that's a drat letdown and a half.

KKKlean Energy posted:

the only time you'll ever not be wearing your watch

Elissia posted:

I am probably some kind of weird freak but I have a pocket watch.

Elissia posted:

I am probably some kind of weird freak but I have a pocket watch.

KKKlean Energy posted:

Oh boy do I have a kickstarter for you!

Elissia posted:

I am probably some kind of weird freak but I have a pocket watch.

Aramoro posted:

But those cases don't hold pocket watches like campaign watch covers do so they're useless?

Aramoro posted:

But those cases don't hold pocket watches like campaign watch covers do so they're useless?

Noyemi K posted:

The My First Visual StudioŽ project's been cancelled.

He doesn't provide any details as to why, though the most recent update that provides those license fees is hilarious.

Pick posted:

Now that Bee and Puppycat is going to make it I now feel freer to say this (since I did want it to succeed):

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

Credit where it's due, they know their fanbase like the back of their hand.

Elysiume posted:

Also it looks like you don't actually get to download them until the $35 tier. Everything before that is watching them online (I assume).

skull wall posted:

on account of ->

Noni posted:

Ooh, I see a sailboat in his shirt. Neat!

Noni posted:

Ooh, I see a sailboat in his shirt. Neat!

Pick posted:

Now that Bee and Puppycat is going to make it I now feel freer to say this (since I did want it to succeed):

what a loving terribly advertised and marketed Kickstarter. Like, everything about the approach of the studio and creators was bad, bad, bad. The KS was carried by fans and Tumblr reblogs and poo poo because the series creators seriously had the most anemic approach I'd ever seen. Utterly too-cool-for-school artist-detached and it's like are you loving serious? Now is not the time to act like a Portlandia extra!

oh hey guys

here's a

picture of a character

yeah

there's a kickstarter

whatever

... Goes the person aiming to get a million loving dollars for a personal project .

Horrible Smutbeast posted:

And all that money will be used for them to all party it up, then ship all the work to Korea to so people who make less in a month than she does in a day can do all the work for them...All while her shitfuck boss goes on camera and stammers about how nobody wants to watch cartoons for women, by women, while he owns an "animation" studio.

This is why I'm not doing animation anymore.

Pick posted:

Uh, Ian J who posts here and works on Adventure Time and other shows in that circle has talked about his experiences coordinating with and visiting the Korean studios, and that's just not true.

PHIZ KALIFA posted:

Yeah ignore that guy, he spends most of his day complaining about fat people in the PYF social justice thread.

Dachshundofdoom posted:

Who needs a sample of the poetry, a pitch video, or any form of content at all? Isn't a vague reference to a popular book enough?

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The only risk I face is not raising the money. Hence, the kickstarter project.
I will overcome this by getting project funded.

Horrible Smutbeast posted:

Can you link to it? Because the Bee and Puppycat stuff is not looking good, especially since they're getting everything done on cells rather than doing it in house with toonboom.


Oh no you triggered my posting privilege!

IanJ posted:

I visited Rough Draft Korea last month and this is the answer.

All characters, props, effects and BGs are hand-drawn and inked on paper and then assembled and rendered out in Toonz. Toonz is proprietary software that can be used to create Flash or Toon Boom-like animation (vector drawings and such) but it's mostly used in Korean studios to manage hand-drawn animation which is scanned. It's where they do all of the camera moves, matching multiple layers of animation to one scene, color correction etc. They can even render out characters one-by-one and then use that data in 3D space(like the zoom through the sand people in Red Starved). It's pretty sophisticated!

Most studios use Toonz or similar programs, like Toon Boom. IIRC the version of Toonz they use at RDK was originally coded for Studio Ghibli.

But software aside EVERYTHING is drawn by hand and inked by hand. It's not work that anybody could do. The tiny size they clean up these drawings at in such clean detail is astounding and the artists are mega-talented. tbqh I always resented jokes about Korean animation being "slave labor" and after visiting now I really do.

IanJ posted:

Because it's not true. It's a skilled job and these people aren't slaves. They work in an office and are paid. Korea has its own unique animation industry and community and is very proud to have animation as an export. Jokes about "slave labor" are just kind of insulting and pretty short-sighted. It's like saying that any good not produced in the US is done by "slaves" but you know that's not true. It would be too expensive to do in the US, but the people working on these shows make a living wage as animators.


Preproduction is done in the US (storyboards, character, prop and effect designs & color styling for each)

After a storyboard is complete, each panel is turned into a layout drawing(what you called "uncoloured key frames"). (like this Ren & Stimpy drawing) Rough Draft Korea led the way in doing the layout drawings themselves(for the Simpsons & etc), and nowadays it's pretty rare for layouts to be done in the US. Everything pretty much follows the storyboard. Which is why you can tell a Jmoyns episode from a Somvilay episode etc.

IanJ posted:

Oh no- sorry if I was confusing, but on shows like AT or Regular Show or Gravity Falls nothing is vector at any point. They work with completely hand-drawn animation. Toonz is just the program that is used for scanning, coloring, composing and rendering scenes. (It is quite similar to RETAS!Pro.) They don't take the output into Toon Boom or Flash- They complete renders straight from Toonz and send them back to the US. No flash animation needed.

IanJ posted:

Not as far as I know, in my experience working on AT and other shows they don't send it back until it's all inbetweened. They want to nail every shot on their first try and they usually do. You can ask for pencil tests earlier but there's not much point in seeing the layouts unless it's your first ever time working with the studio. For instance I requested to see the layouts when I was working with an overseas studio on the pilot I made just to see if they got the characters right. But that was a special case.


Nah, pretty much the only people I met that use Cintiq are the background painters and colorists. Drawing and animating on paper is faster. Maybe they will start doing it all digitally someday but they would have to retrain everyone and reorganize their pipeline. Rough Draft Korea has been drawing the Simpsons by hand for decades now and I think they just have their system that works. I don't know if they do any completely Flash shows at RDK but I know its not uncommon for that work to be done in other countries... like Canada, for instance.

This is a pic from inside one of the studios I visited(not RDK, but their artists work at very similar workstations).

Pretty normal, right? Kind of like pictures you'd see of Disney Feature Animation back in the day.

(I would share some of the pictures I took of drawings being done but they're spoilers.)

Horrible Smutbeast posted:

Oh no you triggered my posting privilege!

Dachshundofdoom posted:

Who needs a sample of the poetry, a pitch video, or any form of content at all? Isn't a vague reference to a popular book enough?

Pick posted:

Horrible Smutbeast posted:

And all that money will be used for them to all party it up, then ship all the work to Korea to so people who make less in a month than she does in a day can do all the work for them