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poopkitty posted:Demobaza. I'd never heard of this before and now I'm entranced, thanks. If only I made more money. Also I am totally down for a Pleistocene rewilding. Get on it, science! 
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bathroom sounds posted:Pick why did things used to be more gigantic in prehistoric times? I think the higher oxygen thing is mainly in the case of things like giant arthropods, such as this huge sonoabitch. Maybe amphibians too, I don't know.
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Jan 9, 2014 16:35
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Bugs get bigger with higher concentrations of oxygen because of the way their bodies work. I don't believe it's the same with non-arthropods. Currently, the earth contains the biggest animal to have ever lived. The blue whale! I've just had my second restless night with no sleep in a row! I even took a sleeping pill, but I guess I should have taken two.
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Jan 9, 2014 16:42
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bathroom sounds posted:Pick why did things used to be more gigantic in prehistoric times? As far as I can remember, this is correct. Higher levels of oxygen means bigger lungs (or the equivalent tubey things? that bugs have) so you get bigger animals. If those creatures existed today they wouldn't be able to get enough oxygen. I could be remembering that wrong though. It's been a few years since uni.
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Jan 9, 2014 16:43
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That how it works for critters with exoskeletons basically. If you're talking about more recent giant critters, the ice age megafauna stuff, a lot of those species mysteriously went extinct around the same time humans moved into their habitats. 
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Jan 9, 2014 16:48
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Nessa posted:I've just had my second restless night with no sleep in a row! I even took a sleeping pill, but I guess I should have taken two. sleeping pill + a beer = sleep like a drat baby It's what I did last night and I tell you what, I wasn't sure I'd be able to make it up the stairs to get to bed, whole lotta stumbling. But I made it, passed out fairly quickly, and stayed zoned out for the whole night.
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Jan 9, 2014 16:50
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Blue whales are amazing. They're living islands! 
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Jan 9, 2014 16:51
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Bugs breathe through diffusion
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Women's Rights? posted:sleeping pill + a beer = sleep like a drat baby 
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Women's Rights? posted:sleeping pill + a beer = sleep like a drat baby I don't drink beer. Never found one I enjoyed the taste of. :/
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bathroom sounds posted:Guys, no! Guess I should specify that my sleeping pill is tylenol PM and not, like, ambien or something loving hardcore
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Jan 9, 2014 16:54
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Please don't end up like those tcc ppl
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Nessa posted:I don't drink beer. Never found one I enjoyed the taste of. :/ I'm kind of the opposite. Never found much else I liked other than beer. I'm basically trash. 
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Jan 9, 2014 16:56
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UnnaturalSELECTION posted:Please don't end up like those tcc ppl
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Jan 9, 2014 16:58
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I want to keep this as a pet. The only beers I really like are stouts (except Guinness, bleurgh) and also those Belgian ones like Liefmann's where they have fruit flavouring added
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Jan 9, 2014 17:00
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I'm not an addict I promise, the only prescription I have is for BC
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When it came to mammalian megafauna we either hunted them all to death for the most part or their was an abundance of other, easier-to-hunt animals in the same ecosystem. Or we decided that their bits are more valuable than the existence of the species like morons. The American Bison is basically a Wooly Bovine, like how the Wooly Mammoth is an elephant with a sweater on.
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vaguely posted:I want to keep this as a pet. Haha I hate it when I find typos after someone quotes me.  I love Blue Moon and Budweiser (yes I know, I know). I can drink Guiness, but I don't like it and it makes me kind of queasy. Used to drink a lot of PBR when I was college poor and hipstery, then realized it tasted like poo poo and made me feel like poo poo.
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Jan 9, 2014 17:07
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If you're not drinking draught Guinness in a bar thick with tobacco smoke then you're doing it wrong.
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Nessa posted:I don't drink beer. Never found one I enjoyed the taste of. :/ U r not alone in this
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Jan 9, 2014 17:14
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I don't think I've ever drank anything with alcohol in it.
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bathroom sounds posted:Pick why did things used to be more gigantic in prehistoric times? Some of it was higher ambient oxygen levels, but climactic factors were also in play. Insects don't have "lungs", they only have openings (spiracles) to let air in and out of the body. They oxygenate faster in high-oxygen environments, naturally. In fact, if you rear fruit flies in a higher-oxygen environment they will grow larger, although this caps out eventually. Oxygenation rates are really important for something like a dragonfly, which is powered by "direct flight" (analogous to birds) as opposed to flies and bees which employ some other tricks that involve distortion of the thorax. As for why vertebrates and stuff are less giant now.... Eh, are they? Blue whales are the largest animals to ever exist. We still have some megafauna, like elephants and moose. Humans directly hunted out a lot of the extinct megafauna species, like the european cave bear. We would have moas and elephant birds and giant ground sloths if humans hadn't hunted them out. Here's a helpful graphic on causes of extinction:  I'm not sure frogs ever got particularly larger than the modern goliath frog:  Or the chinese giant salamander:  By the way, both of these are endangered, thanks to humans, especially the chinese giant salamander which is essentially on death's door. Pick fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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Jan 9, 2014 17:25
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I would pet the hell out of that goliath frog, that looks awesome. I love froggies
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Oh my gosh look at his big strong legs, he's so cute!AriadneThread posted:I don't think I've ever drank anything with alcohol in it. Fireball cinnamon-flavored whiskey tastes like liquid red hot candies. Alternatively, gin has a piney minty flavor that mixes great with soda or citrus. Thank me later.
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By the way, we are definitely bringing the mammoth back. I'm confident that will happen within a few short decades.
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Jan 9, 2014 17:31
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Goliath frogs look like they have enough meat on them to not be annoying as hell to eat like regular frog legs. Who wants to try goliath frog with me?
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Pick posted:By the way, we are definitely bringing the mammoth back. I'm confident that will happen within a few short decades. how? and how far does that big frog jump?
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Pick posted:By the way, we are definitely bringing the mammoth back. I'm confident that will happen within a few short decades. what would we do with them mammoth fur blankets?
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AriadneThread posted:I don't think I've ever drank anything with alcohol in it. Eh alcohol tastes kind of lovely. Which is why you drink it with other stuff in it because being drunk is fun. 
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Anyone who likes megafauna should google "Pleistocene Rewilding" for the goofiest/best unlikely idea ever. 
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glandmine posted:how? and how far does that big frog jump? We're already at the point where most of the components are in line. The DNA we have is fragmented, but we've already managed to piece together fragmented DNA from other species. We have eggs from captive elephants. It's a big topic and I don't want to get into it all, but generally speaking there are huge hurdles but what seemed pie-in-the-sky twenty years ago is already being done. Dinosaurs have no chance though, that ship has sailed. The frog is still within the weight range where froglike legs work. I'm not sure what the peak would be, actually. Higher than this by some margin anyway  .
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they're going to turn out to be intelligent like elephants and get really sad in captivity and we'll basically be huge dicks for bringing them back
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Important question re: mammoths - Can I ride it?
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Pick posted:We're already at the point where most of the components are in line. The DNA we have is fragmented, but we've already managed to piece together fragmented DNA from other species. We have eggs from captive elephants. It's a big topic and I don't want to get into it all, but generally speaking there are huge hurdles but what seemed pie-in-the-sky twenty years ago is already being done. Dinosaurs have no chance though, that ship has sailed. You're not fooling me. Elephants don't lay eggs.
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Pick posted:I'm not sure frogs ever got particularly larger than the modern goliath frog: How do I get permission to raise some of those in my backyard?
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Kimmalah posted:Eh alcohol tastes kind of lovely. Which is why you drink it with other stuff in it because being drunk is fun. I actually love the taste of certain alcohols, but don't care for being drunk. Tipsy is fine, but any more than that and I'm incapacitated the next day. It kinda sucks.
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boom boom boom posted:How do I get permission to raise some of those in my backyard? You don't. Frogs will eat anything they can fit in their mouth. Enjoy explaining to your neighbor why their cat's collar is ringing from inside your frog. Frogs are monsters.
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VanSandman posted:You don't. Frogs will eat anything they can fit in their mouth. Enjoy explaining to your neighbor why their cat's collar is ringing from inside your frog. I would build an enclosure!
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VanSandman posted:You don't. Frogs will eat anything they can fit in their mouth. Enjoy explaining to your neighbor why their cat's collar is ringing from inside your frog. pretty sure a cat would own a cat-sized frog in a fight
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Pick posted:By the way, we are definitely bringing the mammoth back. I'm confident that will happen within a few short decades. It's real cool that we have learned literally nothing from Jurassic park
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