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Helical Nightmares posted:So Ares is the Greek god of War and Violence. About what you'd expect. He is a Greek god of war and violence. Case in point: Olympus is under siege by a crazed Japanese chaos deity's forces. The fight is not going well, so Ares decides to take action. By SETTING HIMSELF ON FIRE and telling Hercules to throw him into the midst of the enemy.   At one point, Norman Osborn has Ares train a new team of soldiers for him.   What he lacks in subtlety, he makes up for in style.  
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Helical Nightmares posted:So Ares is the Greek god of War and Violence. He's the Greek God of war and violence He became mortal for a while and was pretty similar to the Punisher except with martial weapons in addition to guns.
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Jan 10, 2014 18:54
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Somebody post the panels of him not being able to hear instructions over the sound of him returning fire and stuff.
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Jan 10, 2014 18:56
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I don't see why you would use Ares over Thor or Wolvie. Welp, at least it's a nine day event and that means a fuckton of standard cover which mean at least one random 3-star cover hopefully!
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Jan 10, 2014 19:20
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Voodoo posted:I don't see why you would use Ares over Thor or Wolvie. Welp, at least it's a nine day event and that means a fuckton of standard cover which mean at least one random 3-star cover hopefully! Rag Red.
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Jan 10, 2014 19:21
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Voodoo posted:I don't see why you would use Ares over Thor or Wolvie. Welp, at least it's a nine day event and that means a fuckton of standard cover which mean at least one random 3-star cover hopefully! Maybe the upcoming Wolverine and Thor nerfs will change your opinion!  Demiurge posted:Hi Everyone!
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Jan 10, 2014 19:42
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Voodoo posted:I don't see why you would use Ares over Thor or Wolvie. Welp, at least it's a nine day event and that means a fuckton of standard cover which mean at least one random 3-star cover hopefully! 
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Jan 10, 2014 19:42
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I don't know anything about balancing characters, but I think I would feel a lot better about it if they tried boosting some of the other characters rather than hacking away at the "dominant" ones. The Marvel Facebook game always took this approach, they'd keep adding stuff rather than subtracting. Maybe it's not technically better, but it at least doesn't make you feel like you paid for something and now they're yanking it away.
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Jan 10, 2014 19:44
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Karnegal posted:poo poo, just noticed that the first batch of events are non-repeatable. Best to save those until late in the time frame. Shouldn't be a big deal since this is a 9.5 day deal, but watch out for that. Don't forget that doing the first batch unlocks the side events where all the points are, and those are on a cycle much shorter than 9.5 days.
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Jan 10, 2014 19:45
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omnibobb posted:Somebody post the panels of him not being able to hear instructions over the sound of him returning fire and stuff.  delfin posted:At one point, Norman Osborn has Ares train a new team of soldiers for him. Ares trains his soldiers by firing live rounds at them during practice sessions.  
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Jan 10, 2014 19:47
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I see the devs still hate Bag Man then. Also we need a new Captain America, based on that one by the guy who can't draw feet.
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Jan 10, 2014 19:50
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triplexpac posted:I don't know anything about balancing characters, but I think I would feel a lot better about it if they tried boosting some of the other characters rather than hacking away at the "dominant" ones. It looks like they're going to be improving three of those characters and tweaking down four, but the net effect is going to be more lopsided because they're basically going to be nerfing four of the best remaining characters and the ones they're boosting are extremely subpar (Hawkeye is okay) Unless they drastically improve X-Force and Invisible Woman they're still not going to be all that good. Plus they're four stars and I imagine not a ton of players have them.
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Jan 10, 2014 19:53
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Heres how I'm guessing its gonna go: IW, xforce wolvie, hawk mod alll get boosted, everyone else gets turned to crap. IW and xforce become the new top dogs needed to finish at the top, the whales throw their money and Demiurge Studios laughs all the way to the bank. Calling it.
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Trip report: CPU L240 Ares is... HP 14625 Damage 107 Yel / 122 Red / 18 Purp / 17 Bla / 15 Blu / 137 Gre / 3 Env / 3.0x Crit Onslaught: 5 Green AP, depletes all Green AP and does 566 damage for each, grants enemies 1 Green AP per 2 consumed Rampage: 10 Red AP, 1634 damage to all enemies, 3267 if below 25% of max health Sunder: 10 Yellow AP, does 5445 damage to enemy, 2420 to self, converts random basic tile to a 2 Countdown tile that does 1815 damage to enemy and heals him for 1967 ...NOT loving fun to fight against.
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Jan 10, 2014 20:06
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I don't know if Thor really needs to be nerfed, but man Astonishing Wolvie nerf would finally give me a reason to use something other than him thankfully, which actually kinda weird to be thankful about.
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Jan 10, 2014 20:09
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Ares just murdered my team in like 3 turns. This is not fun.
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Jan 10, 2014 20:22
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The Biggest Jerk posted:I don't know if Thor really needs to be nerfed, but man Astonishing Wolvie nerf would finally give me a reason to use something other than him thankfully, which actually kinda weird to be thankful about. I hear ya. In a perfect world, this game would be balanced and you could pick any combo of characters and potentially do well. Really, I'd settle for a handful of different options. Every single team I see in the current IM PVP is maxed Wolvie and Thor, over and over and over again, with the odd Spidey in the mix.
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Jan 10, 2014 20:26
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I beat the 240 Ares with some boosts and a Hulk/Thor/Storm combo. I did kill him in two turns and probably got a little bit lucky, but Hulk tanking and spitting out a bunch of green with Anger along with Thor churning yellows into more green managed to sort of loop Storms green power and her stun. Hulk still took 7k damage. Not sure I want to try that fight again but I don't have an IW. I played the lottery and got a black Punisher cover but I don't want to spend 250 HP on a Captain America or Hawkeye cover 
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Jan 10, 2014 20:36
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Given the heavy-handed "rebalance" of Rags and the upcoming nerf bat queue, it might be a good idea to add a big flashing warning to the OP: Do not spend HP leveling the abilities of characters in the rebalance queue. Especially not real money HP.
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Jan 10, 2014 20:38
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Welp, i logon today and not only are all of my characters dead with a 7 hour wait, but i've got a 5 hour wait for a medpack. No response from support for over a week now. argh.
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Jan 10, 2014 20:44
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If I use an Avengers boost and a Dark Avengers boost do I do +40% damage to Ares?  Ares is awesome, and his coolest moment is still when he encounters Sentry though, linked for spoilers and hugeness. http://i.imgur.com/ux1VnH9.jpg
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Jan 10, 2014 21:01
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The R45.1 update (bug fixes) is in the App Store now.
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Jan 10, 2014 21:01
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Aw, it's just the Hunt again with different rewards? The enemies seem different at least. C'mon, give us Devil Dinosaur.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:07
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I'm finding it harder and harder to give a poo poo about this game. Now my precious Thor and Wolverine are up and running in their 60's and they're about to get toned down. I barely survive as it is without throwing money at them.
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New Leaf posted:I'm finding it harder and harder to give a poo poo about this game. Now my precious Thor and Wolverine are up and running in their 60's and they're about to get toned down. I barely survive as it is without throwing money at them. Well, nearly every match in every round of every event is wolverine, Thor and the tournament theme character which is pretty stupid. Effective, and kind of fun, but stupid.
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messagemode1 posted:Well, nearly every match in every round of every event is wolverine, Thor and the tournament theme character which is pretty stupid. If it works, it works. They were good, that's where my points are. If it were an MMO and they were making major changes to a skill-line or something, they would reimburse the points spent in it. In this game.. no idea.
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Jan 10, 2014 22:54
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New Hunt owns for the sheer fact that the buffs are loving ridiculous. I shouldn't be able to take on everything with a level 25 Hulk and a level 6 Captain America, but here we are. Now if only these drat recruit tokens would drop me another Cap or Hulk, that would be rad.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:04
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Sitting at mid 30s in double shot with 400ish points, waiting until the last 30 or so to push for top 15. First in our bracket is over 1500 with a 600 point lead over second, no idea how you gain that high with everyone else so low.
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Jan 10, 2014 23:50
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New Leaf posted:If it works, it works. They were good, that's where my points are. If it were an MMO and they were making major changes to a skill-line or something, they would reimburse the points spent in it. In this game.. no idea. That makes no sense, skills get mega-nerfed in MMOs all the time?
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Varinn posted:That makes no sense, skills get mega-nerfed in MMOs all the time? What he was saying is that when that happens, you typically get a free respec.
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delfin posted:
That just reminds me of later when he shuts Orborn up with just a stare 
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BumikiIsFreaky posted:Sitting at mid 30s in double shot with 400ish points, waiting until the last 30 or so to push for top 15. First in our bracket is over 1500 with a 600 point lead over second, no idea how you gain that high with everyone else so low. I thought I was going to get back-to-back 1st's in the IM 40 thing, but this guy had no interest in letting that happen (never saw him shielded once in past two days too) so I threw in the towel and shielded. Should get me my last Purple Spiderman Cover. 
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Russad posted:What he was saying is that when that happens, you typically get a free respec. I wouldn't say it's even close to typical, really. A free respec in something like this I'd expect if they redesigned a hero entirely, but nerfing one skill? Not really.
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Varinn posted:I wouldn't say it's even close to typical, really. A free respec in something like this I'd expect if they redesigned a hero entirely, but nerfing one skill? Not really. That skill was the core of the hero though. You can't say just one skill when he only had 2 to start with and he other skill was never used anyway. Whether he needed a nerf or not alienating the whales who are pretty much 90% of the people who had Rags at 5 red is a bit dumb. Doing it and then announcing Spider-Man is next on the list is downright stupid.
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I'd rather they balance with gameplay in mind over how much it'll make whales cry any day, to be frank. Maybe the nerf was too much, but that can be rebalanced in the future too! The backlash over some of the more egregious stuff being nerfed is crazy.
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Varinn posted:I wouldn't say it's even close to typical, really. A free respec in something like this I'd expect if they redesigned a hero entirely, but nerfing one skill? Not really. I'm honestly surprised they don't offer respecs that cost HC. For instance, if someone fucks up a 3-star with 3 skills and really should have gone 5/5/3 but they went something else, charging HC and you get 13 points to stick where ever. They wouldn't necessarily make bank over it, but someone would infinitely more than likely spend money on that than completely rebuilding one from scratch. And honestly, I don't understand why all builds for each character aren't viable. There's a handful where there's legitimate debate between a couple builds, but the vast majority are "build it exactly like this or you're hamstringing yourself against everyone else".
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The people with 2 skills barely even have builds. The build variations are to deliberately not max out your character because the max level makes skills worse, which is a bad design but working around bad design with player solutions has it's own charm (see glitch based speed runs of games). The game is super linear and limited as it is now (Thor wolvie thor wolvie ad nauseum) so a wide sweeping redesign is welcome. Alienating whales is inelegant and they should probably give a partial HP but not $$ refund to people who paid HP to skill up rags, but let them keep the skill ups. So if you whaled you end up with some bonus HP and a now worthless max skill rags.
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If there are any newbies out there who aren't turned away by the vitriol directed at this game, I'm about ready to wrap up my time playing. First reply to this gets my Fakebook account and the accompanying covers (share your email and we'll change login, password etc over to you.) Not sure how well this'll work, but what the heck. Ratatozsk fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jan 11, 2014 |
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Well, I clawed my way up to 1000 in Double Shot using the tried and true strategy of "if people crab you into the basement, they're worth 30 points each when you retaliate" and then spend 50 of the HP I won on a shield in 9th place. Immediately after doing so I got attacked for a total of 160 points, so I think it was worth it. Would've clawed 70 more points to 4th place (after that it's 1400) but that last 25 to 1000 took forever because I'd get attacked as fast as I could kill guys. IM40/Wolvie/OBW may not be as scary a team to fight back against as swapping in Thor but man, I ended every single fight at max HP unless the enemy got a lucky cascade. With no buffs. Bruceski fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jan 11, 2014 |
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Just finished a run through the prologue to collect remaining HP / standard tokens. Of the 15 tokens cashed, I got: Black Widow Modern - Purple x 2 Iron Man 35 - Blue Iron Man 35 - Red Iron Man 35 - Yellow Venom - Purple x 4 Yelena Belova - Purple Yelena Belova - Black Hawkeye Classic - Red Storm Modern - Black Juggernaut - Green Wolverine Astonishing - Yellow Grey Widow - Red Meh.
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