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Kalit posted:Are you just making up numbers? It's an educated guess. I've seen a few different upkeep numbers for stadiums, practice facilities et. al. And I like to estimate toward the high side because it's safer to. Kalit posted:Edit: To add to this discussion, I am completely for having a decent gym at a University. To build initially, it adds a little bit more to student fees, but it encourages good habits and helps promote physical activity to those who might not have otherwise exercised. For example, I know plenty of people who would never exercise if the gym didn't have a climbing wall, raquetball courts, or a swimming pool. The ideal is that private funds pay for everything ... in practice, it has been tricky. I've read articles about schools literally rigging student elections to approve an increase in student fees for the purpose of building gyms and other amenities. Building is good; building in spite of the wishes of those who will eventually pay for it is not.
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Dusseldorf posted:I assume Lubbock is dry or something but do they allow drinking in that thing? Lubbock is no longer dry, but I don't believe that they have any alcohol in there. Consider that your primary audience is 60-75% under 21... Won't work.
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# ? Mar 31, 2014 01:37 |
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http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/10695272/northwestern-wildcats-union-representatives-head-congressquote:The leaders who are attempting to unionize Northwestern football players will take their case to Capitol Hill lawmakers, aiming to protect the historic victory union organizers achieved last week. We're leaving the realm of simplicity now. The Student-Athlete as a concept is going to fundamentally change in the very near future.
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# ? Mar 31, 2014 06:57 |
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Gonna be a lot of back and forth now. The interesting thing is that since the NCAA gets ad time during college football games, there's no way they won't run what essentially would be political ads attacking the union. And they can do it during every nationally broadcasted game. All of their advertising last year focused on the "student athlete" so they almost have to.
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Quest For Glory II posted:Gonna be a lot of back and forth now. Might that run into the rule about political ads being equal-opportunity for both sides? Or whatever that rule is.
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quote:Far less enthused was Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), a former U.S. Department of Education secretary and former president of the University of Tennessee. Oh Lamar you silly man!
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effectual posted:Might that run into the rule about political ads being equal-opportunity for both sides? Or whatever that rule is.
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Gerund posted:We're leaving the realm of simplicity now. The Student-Athlete as a concept is going to fundamentally change in the very near future. And the schools that make up the NCAA have nothing but themselves to blame. The only question is whether or not they'll propose and pass realistic reforms before the union think fully takes hold.
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Crazy Ted posted:Lamar quote Jesus. How widespread is this perspective among people in educational administration? These pesky kids with their desire for rooms bigger than sardine cans and better food.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Jesus. How widespread is this perspective among people in educational administration? These pesky kids with their desire for rooms bigger than sardine cans and better food. Remember that it was in Tennessee where the local VW plant got scared away from unionization by local politicians when even management was all for unionization.
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# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:01 |
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quote:Far less enthused was Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), a former U.S. Department of Education secretary and former president of the University of Tennessee. Yeah, because all those players that signed up to play basketball totally don't want to play in their sweet 16 game.
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# ? Apr 2, 2014 18:15 |
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The ironic thing is, student-athletes at the University of Tennessee and 98 percent of other colleges all get bigger dorm rooms, better food, and classes scheduled around the athletic requirements. The practice thing is a bitch, though.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:The ironic thing is, student-athletes at the University of Tennessee and 98 percent of other colleges all get bigger dorm rooms, better food, and classes scheduled around the athletic requirements. I think you mean they have to schedule their classes around athletic requirements. If somebody has practice at the same time the only section of a lab is offered or something they don't get to take that class.
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turbomoose posted:Yeah, because all those players that signed up to play basketball totally don't want to play in their sweet 16 game. 11 AM classes! The height of luxury!
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effectual posted:Might that run into the rule about political ads being equal-opportunity for both sides? Or whatever that rule is. The rule is that if you sell political advertisements to specific candidates you have to sell it at the lowest cost for the timeslot. This was famously used in 2012 as Obama bought all his direct while Romney relied on SuperPACs. The stations didn't have to give the SuperPAC the favorable rate and so he ended up spending three or four times as much money for the same amount of advertisement.
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# ? Apr 3, 2014 14:52 |
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axeil posted:The rule is that if you sell political advertisements to specific candidates you have to sell it at the lowest cost for the timeslot. That wasn't quote what happened. Obama bought ad time in bulk much much earlier than Romney. Romney bought in much later in the cycle with smaller buys, driving his price up.
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N: Pat Fitzgerald urges against union http://espn.go.com/chicago/college-football/story/_/id/10734087/pat-fitzgerald-urges-northwestern-wildcats-players-vote-union quote:EVANSTON, Ill. -- Northwestern coach Pat Fitzgerald is finally talking to his team about the unionization push and outlining why players should vote against forming a union later this month. V: Direct management with hiring & firing duties shocked, shocked that employees do not go to him directly with complaints nor had warned him about their attempts to gain recognition and restitution under federal law.
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# ? Apr 5, 2014 23:43 |
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I like how he never actually says what would be bad about them unionizing.
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# ? Apr 5, 2014 23:45 |
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Anyone that says "get the facts" sounds like the most corporate shmuck
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Quest For Glory II posted:Anyone that says "get the facts" sounds like the most corporate shmuck Yeah, I don't see the upside of Fitzgerald getting into it. Once he takes a side the losing side is going to resent him no matter what the result is.
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# ? Apr 5, 2014 23:50 |
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ALSO,quote:Quarterback Trevor Siemian said unionizing might hurt the Wildcats in their goal of winning the Big Ten. This is the funniest line in the article for about a BILLION reasons
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Deteriorata posted:Yeah, I don't see the upside of Fitzgerald getting into it. Once he takes a side the losing side is going to resent him no matter what the result is. There's zero chance in hell the NCAA would let him not take a stance on this, much less the stance he did take. I'm sure poo poo straight out of the Wal-Mart and McDonald's playbook is being used already.
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Mark Emmert came out today and called the unionization attempt 'grossly inappropriate' http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/10738559/mark-emmert-ncaa-president-says-unionization-attempt-grossly-inappropriate Because making money off of kids and then kicking them off of scholarships if they get injured playing for you IS appropriate, obviously.
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quote:The Division I board of directors is expected to vote in August on major governance changes that could include awarding cost of attendance to athletes and would also allow the so-called power conferences to operate under a model slightly different than everyone else. "We're going to improve the lot for the real victims here, the top 32-64 teams in the nation that are limited in paying only .01% of a athletes worth as compensation. They should be allowed to pay .02% of an athletes worth. Because that's fair."
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FlamingLiberal posted:Mark Emmert came out today and called the unionization attempt 'grossly inappropriate'
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# ? Apr 7, 2014 00:37 |
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I just realized. Does this mean that in the next NCAA Football, every team will have all numbers with no names, except Northwestern? Lol.
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Volkerball posted:I just realized. Does this mean that in the next NCAA Football, every team will have all numbers with no names, except Northwestern? Lol. The NCAA games already didn't have correct names. The point of contention was that they were modeling the players after their real-life counterparts anyway.
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# ? Apr 7, 2014 02:24 |
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I know they didn't. The default rosters just say QB #12, etc all the way through. I'm wondering if, assuming they do decide to unionize, it'd be like that for every team except Northwestern, who's players would be able to sell their likenesses and have their actual names used.
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# ? Apr 7, 2014 02:49 |
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They also found in the code though that players were referenced by name. Apparently there were sets of plays that were designed for particular players like TEBOW1, TEBOW2, etc. It was never seen on the front end, but was pretty prevalent in the code.
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swickles posted:They also found in the code though that players were referenced by name. Apparently there were sets of plays that were designed for particular players like TEBOW1, TEBOW2, etc. It was never seen on the front end, but was pretty prevalent in the code. That and the fact that EA themselves were the ones leaking the updated rosters under sockpuppets on places like OperationSports
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Volkerball posted:I just realized. Does this mean that in the next NCAA Football, every team will have all numbers with no names, except Northwestern? Lol. There is no next NCAA Football, they cancelled the franchise and fired the team earlier this year
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Volkerball posted:I know they didn't. The default rosters just say QB #12, etc all the way through. I'm wondering if, assuming they do decide to unionize, it'd be like that for every team except Northwestern, who's players would be able to sell their likenesses and have their actual names used. That would probably fall under illegal benefits. If not that could make unionzation an interesting way to lander booster money.
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The Glumslinger posted:There is no next NCAA Football, they cancelled the franchise and fired the team earlier this year Wow just read an article on this and it sounds really stupid and petty. All over names and faces on a video game.
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Volkerball posted:Wow just read an article on this and it sounds really stupid and petty. All over names and faces on a video game. I thought it was rumored that Notre Dame or someone else big wanted to pull out of the whole thing as well.
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Volkerball posted:Wow just read an article on this and it sounds really stupid and petty. All over names and faces on a video game. Potentially having to pay out money to 126 universities/players cuts into the profit margin big time, and the series has never sold like Madden (or even like NBA 2K if I'm not mistaken)
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It's not really shocking. I can't imagine the NCAA made a ton off of that, and just out of spite they would do it anyway to screw the players.
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It's not really petty anyway. Think about why they wouldn't just release an NCAA Football game with completely generic player models... it's because the player likenesses sell. The game makes millions of dollars but now they won't make it. That establishes value. If they had to cut a check it would destroy their margins. What sucks is, because EA's the only company trusted with football, now there's no alternative. No NFL2K for NCAA with first person mode or anything. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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Outside the lines today is about this, and they're running comments on #collegeunion. I'm bluntly trolling it.
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Quest For Glory II posted:It's not really petty anyway. Think about why they wouldn't just release an NCAA Football game with completely generic player models... it's because the player likenesses sell. The game makes millions of dollars but now they won't make it. That establishes value. If they had to cut a check it would destroy their margins. Madden pulls a profit. Even smaller sports manage to get their likenesses secured while still providing quality games. It's absolutely petty. We'll ruin the sanctity of the game played by student athletes just out there having fun if we let them be in video games!
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Volkerball posted:I know they didn't. The default rosters just say QB #12, etc all the way through. I'm wondering if, assuming they do decide to unionize, it'd be like that for every team except Northwestern, who's players would be able to sell their likenesses and have their actual names used. Yes, a corporation will be willing to pay US dollars to license the likeness of Northwestern football players.
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