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BDawg
May 19, 2004

In Full Stereo Symphony

DangerZoneDelux posted:

You know you could have just done this through the website right? Why the gently caress would you call anyone? Go to website. Initiate return. Put up a credit card not a debit card. They will do a check to see if you have the funds like every ones does. Just like renting a car or a hotel room. They won't hold the funds unless it's a debit card. They send you a new xbox and you send your old one back. Lol why did you make it so difficult? Later if you wanted free poo poo you could have done an online chat after you returned and asked for free Live or whatever. I did all of the above when I had to exchange mine for a broken disc drive

When I tried that, the site said that it couldn't do advanced exchanges and I would have to start it through a rep.

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Dr VideoGames 0.299
Feb 15, 2007

i really think you're overestimating how much
i love having dog shit smushed all over my face
Gah, apparently XBox Live is in the middle of some critical failure. Something so bad that I haven't been getting my achievements while playing Child of Light. I knew something was up when I hit level 10 and didn't get a ding. I don't know if I care to start over again... or really even finish the game, it's so loving treacly and whimsical. Nevermind dull as hell. Pretty, but dull as hell.

A c E
Jun 18, 2007

Is this weird? Is this too weird? Do you need to sit down?
Yep, I'm pretty pissed. I woke up, walked in front of the TV while my girlfriend was watching netflix. It tried to log me in, that failed and kicked her off Xbox live.

I can't even play any games nows because I can't switch to my account because it fails to log in. I just wanted to play some trials before I had to leave today.

WinnebagoWarrior
Apr 8, 2009

I eat Rotheseburgehergh's like you for breakfast

VincesUndies posted:

Hey guys, did you see the 'leaked' trailer for Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare yet? It stars Kevin Spacey as Kevin Spacey playing someone important and features new abilities such as cloaking, jump jets, mechs and wall climbing.

http://www.destructoid.com/call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-leaked-see-the-first-video-and-images-274126.phtml

I assumed this was some kind of joke post, but nope, Call of Duty just decided so say gently caress it, we are also making Titanfall.

Edit - watched the trailer again and there is someone jump kicking someone else to death. Also there is a lack of parkour. However, even though I am not a fan of the CoD series at all, that looked fairly fun. I am worn the gently caress out on war shooters set in modern days. I wish Crysis would get a proper sequel.

WinnebagoWarrior fucked around with this message at 17:59 on May 2, 2014

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe

Funkmaster General posted:

Basically, both systems are pretty friendly for indie developers now, but Sony really got ahead of the game on this one (and is still *more* friendly, if barely so), so I'd expect them to be the go-to for this sort of thing for quite a while.

edit: If you're curious, here's a list of developers signed up for the program, as of the time of that posting. There's more now, plus a few that had already been announced before that list was released and therefor weren't listed. Most haven't actually announced what games they're bringing over, though.

edit2: Also, a number of goons are involved in this program. For example, forums user The Radix is working on Gunscape, which is coming to the Xbone in this fashion.

This runs contrary to my experience with it. I've been working on an RPG in my spare time for a number of years and things have finally progressed to the point where I'm trying to cobble together a community site and see about testing/porting it to other platforms. I applied to the ID program, it took them 3 weeks to process my application, I was accepted but told that "dev kits are limited" and received nothing except some email invitations to conferences. I've asked a few times for other guidance or for other resources while waiting for a dev kit and received no response. Steam and Sony are way easier to deal with, Sony didn't even ask for a work sample for the SDK and has been super helpful with documentation and guidance. Steam directed me to Greenlight docs but they were pretty transparent about the rest of the process.

If you're a "notable" indie then maybe ID is great but I'm not having a great experience with it so far. It feels like press release fluff more than a coherent program but hopefully others are having more luck than I am.

BabyMauler
Sep 19, 2005

WinnebagoWarrior posted:

I assumed this was some kind of joke post, but nope, Call of Duty just decided so say gently caress it, we are also making Titanfall.

Edit - watched the trailer again and there is someone jump kicking someone else to death. Also there is a lack of parkour. However, even though I am not a fan of the CoD series at all, that looked fairly fun. I am worn the gently caress out on war shooters set in modern days. I wish Crysis would get a proper sequel.

Watched the whole thing myself and thought, yah thats like proto titanfall. The CoD crowd would hate the parkour prolly. Exoskeletons!

WinnebagoWarrior
Apr 8, 2009

I eat Rotheseburgehergh's like you for breakfast

BabyMauler posted:

Watched the whole thing myself and thought, yah thats like proto titanfall. The CoD crowd would hate the parkour prolly. Exoskeletons!

Exoskeletons are inherently cooler than armor suits. I will prolly be disappointed in this game as I know that the mechs/big suit things are going to be kill streak rewards rather than on a timer or something because CoD loves hiding its best content behind those stupid kill streaks. I am sure this will be yet another year that I am intrigued by something that CoD is doing but not actually buy it.

But man, exoskeletons.

Dr VideoGames 0.299
Feb 15, 2007

i really think you're overestimating how much
i love having dog shit smushed all over my face
Well, XBox Live is back, but my achievements in Child of Light still aren't triggering. I restarted and powered through the beginning, and the first achievement that I missed before - you get one when Rubella joins the party - still didn't trigger the second time I went through. I think this is due to achievements triggering when your UPLay account triggers them, and previously, before restarting, UPlay WAS recording the achievements, but not XBox Live while it was down. So now, I have the achievement on my UPlay account, and that makes it impossible to trigger it again in the game so XBox Live can give me the cheevo. My theory, anyways.

I know this is a pathetic niggle but does anyone have any suggestions as to who I can bring this up to? Knowing that the achievements in this game are fickle and dependent on being able to phone home to Microsoft is pretty deflating.

edit: Apparently this is a known issue - http://www.xboxachievements.com/forum/showthread.php?t=575095 It's also affecting the 360 version.

Dr VideoGames 0.299 fucked around with this message at 21:07 on May 2, 2014

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




Assuming you're right about the achievement only triggering when uPlay triggers it, this sounds like something Ubisoft will have to fix, either by removing the achievements from your account if they can (which you can then re-earn), or by some future patch that ensures the achievement pops correctly if there's a desync like that.

Crafty
Dec 9, 2003

I CAN'T SEE SHIT.












xbox one is the best
Super time force comes out in less than two weeks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyqcdqgLLZ0

Looks fun.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through

Crafty posted:

Super time force comes out in less than two weeks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyqcdqgLLZ0

Looks fun.

Was about to wag my finger at you for posting a 360 exclusive in here, but Googled and saw it was coming out for Xbone. Sweet, when'd that get announced? Glad I can play this now (I dumped my 360 a while back).

Bass Bottles
Jan 14, 2006

BOSS BATTLES DID NOTHING WRONG
When I look at my friends list on 360 I can't see what specific games people are playing on Xbox One. It just says "Playing Xbox One" all the time.

So I just checked xbox.com and it still gives me the generic "Playing Xbox One" status. Am I not able to see what specific games people are playing unless my profile has logged in on an Xbox One or something?

Hackan Slash
May 31, 2007
Hit it until it's not a problem anymore
What's the deal with the one having no demos, or them being hard to get to? I want to try out Child of Light and Stryder, but I can't find them on the one. I can at least find child on the 360.

Funkmaster General
Sep 13, 2008

Hey, man, I distinctly remember this being an episode of Spongebob. :colbert:

Hackan Slash posted:

What's the deal with the one having no demos, or them being hard to get to? I want to try out Child of Light and Stryder, but I can't find them on the one. I can at least find child on the 360.

The 360 required all XBLA games to have trials. The One has no such thing as XBLA. All games are equal. And since they can't very well require all developers to create a trial for every single game, the requirement is gone. So nobody is bothering to release them.

virtualboyCOLOR
Dec 22, 2004

Dr VideoGames 0.299 posted:

Gah, apparently XBox Live is in the middle of some critical failure. Something so bad that I haven't been getting my achievements while playing Child of Light. I knew something was up when I hit level 10 and didn't get a ding. I don't know if I care to start over again...

Why would this bother you when it's nothing but numbers that serves no other purpose than to shame you. That's a blessing. If you get more achievements than "progressed story +" and those you get for unlocking actual content in a game, your brain is broken.

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through

virtualboyCOLOR posted:

Why would this bother you when it's nothing but numbers that serves no other purpose than to shame you. That's a blessing. If you get more achievements than "progressed story +" and those you get for unlocking actual content in a game, your brain is broken.

Hey, look, a post from 2005.

Seriously, can we not start sharing why achievements are dumb/great? Not to backseat mod, but that line of conversation always blows.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Bass Bottles posted:

When I look at my friends list on 360 I can't see what specific games people are playing on Xbox One. It just says "Playing Xbox One" all the time.

So I just checked xbox.com and it still gives me the generic "Playing Xbox One" status. Am I not able to see what specific games people are playing unless my profile has logged in on an Xbox One or something?

Smart glass app on your phone/tablet/windows PC shows this info.

No app for macs :/

hanyolo
Jul 18, 2013
I am an employee of the Microsoft Gaming Division and they pay me to defend the Xbox One on the Something Awful Forums

Hackan Slash posted:

What's the deal with the one having no demos, or them being hard to get to? I want to try out Child of Light and Stryder, but I can't find them on the one. I can at least find child on the 360.

I find watching someone stream on Twitch is now a good way of seeing if the game is good or not.

Chasiubao
Apr 2, 2010


Bass Bottles posted:

When I look at my friends list on 360 I can't see what specific games people are playing on Xbox One. It just says "Playing Xbox One" all the time.

So I just checked xbox.com and it still gives me the generic "Playing Xbox One" status. Am I not able to see what specific games people are playing unless my profile has logged in on an Xbox One or something?

It's just the way the system works. 360 only ever sees that generic message, but the opposite works fine.

Bass Bottles
Jan 14, 2006

BOSS BATTLES DID NOTHING WRONG

Chasiubao posted:

It's just the way the system works. 360 only ever sees that generic message, but the opposite works fine.

That makes sense, but why can't I see it on the website?

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

Bass Bottles posted:

That makes sense, but why can't I see it on the website?

Good question, it seems like everything except the Xbone and Xbone smartglass are "stuck" on the Xbox 360 version of live for lack of a better word. That seems to go for Xbox.com, windows 8 and windows phone. Presumably that will change at some point?

Maneki Neko fucked around with this message at 06:57 on May 4, 2014

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

Man, these update previews are kind of annoying.

I had an update waiting for my console to be powered on, which led to my game updates not downloading. so after downloading 1.2GB to play battlefield, I got to join my friends party and get hit with another 300MB update to party chat, presumably. then that downloads in 10 minutes and causes my console to restart and now install the update.

I dont know what 'background updates' means in Xbox HQ, but it certainly doesnt align with any rational understanding of the concept.

2.5hrs now and I still havent been able to play a game because of updates.

(and its not my connection: hardwired network with 100mbps down)

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Soul Glo posted:

Hey, look, a post from 2005.

Seriously, can we not start sharing why achievements are dumb/great? Not to backseat mod, but that line of conversation always blows.

He's right though, if you get the "shot a hundred dudes" or the "played for an hour" cheevos in your dude shooter game you're a giant goony sperglord who should kill yourself.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
Lipstick Apathy

Pornographic Memory posted:

He's right though, if you get the "shot a hundred dudes" or the "played for an hour" cheevos in your dude shooter game you're a giant goony sperglord who should kill yourself.

Those numbers are kind of low, brah.

Seriously though I'm happy that the cheevos have their own separate app because now they're just out of sight enough to be out of mind for me.

I... had a problem.

Now, getting a cheevo is nice, but I don't care because hitting the Guide Button doesn't take me right to the list of OCD baitcheevoes.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010
I figured this would be a better place to ask than the BF4 thread since I doubt any of them have 'bones.

So I booted up my 'bone for the first time in about a month, and after a 600 MB system patch and a 1.2 GB BF4 patch, I was fired up and ready to play on some of them newly unleashed private servers with 64 player rush and some 64 (or at least 32) TDM. Then I get on and check and see only official and ranked servers. Then I notice I can search for private only, and I see a whopping 4 loving private servers, all of which are password protected, and all of which are playing Domination with 10/20 players on the server.

I bought BF3 when it came out, but kept playing BFBC2 for about 6-8 months after because of BF3's lovely launch, but I remember private servers (500%, all Metro all the time, no shotguns or ban!! unless you're the admin in which case use shotguns ;)))) vastly outnumbering the EA servers. I also only came across like 2 password protected servers out of like 50 hours of playing BF3. So, anyone know what's up with private servers? I know they're pretty limited right now, but wtf? all playing domination? Who the gently caress even plays Domination? Every time I've checked the official EA servers for Dom there have been like 3 servers playing it. The only thing more anemic than Domination is Obliteration (usually literally 0 full servers).

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

Saladman posted:

I figured this would be a better place to ask than the BF4 thread since I doubt any of them have 'bones.

So I booted up my 'bone for the first time in about a month, and after a 600 MB system patch and a 1.2 GB BF4 patch, I was fired up and ready to play on some of them newly unleashed private servers with 64 player rush and some 64 (or at least 32) TDM. Then I get on and check and see only official and ranked servers. Then I notice I can search for private only, and I see a whopping 4 loving private servers, all of which are password protected, and all of which are playing Domination with 10/20 players on the server.

I bought BF3 when it came out, but kept playing BFBC2 for about 6-8 months after because of BF3's lovely launch, but I remember private servers (500%, all Metro all the time, no shotguns or ban!! unless you're the admin in which case use shotguns ;)))) vastly outnumbering the EA servers. I also only came across like 2 password protected servers out of like 50 hours of playing BF3. So, anyone know what's up with private servers? I know they're pretty limited right now, but wtf? all playing domination? Who the gently caress even plays Domination? Every time I've checked the official EA servers for Dom there have been like 3 servers playing it. The only thing more anemic than Domination is Obliteration (usually literally 0 full servers).

I don't know, but I wouldn't be too sad about it. Private servers ruined BF3 on 360, and from what you've said, they're much less prevalent on BF4 Xbone.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

Blue Raider posted:

I don't know, but I wouldn't be too sad about it. Private servers ruined BF3 on 360, and from what you've said, they're much less prevalent on BF4 Xbone.

I agree, and I always looked for the EA servers on BF3, but the official servers are terribly gimped on BF4. The only reason I bought BF4 was because of the increased player count, only to find out that they actually DECREASED the player count for TDM. Good Christ. I hope at least they'll add a Close Quarters-like expansion in the future, which was the only playmode that I really enjoyed on the console version of 360. Why they even put Armor Kill on console who knows. The console version of AK was one of the worst AA video game experiences I've ever seen.


E: Between buying an Xbone and buying a terribly broken BF4 premium, that'll really learn me to purchase things without reading extensive reviews beforehand. At least Hitman Abs for GWG on the 360 was fun, so I'm not too bummed about renewing Gold..

Saladman fucked around with this message at 22:08 on May 4, 2014

Blue Raider
Sep 2, 2006

Saladman posted:

I agree, and I always looked for the EA servers on BF3, but the official servers suck rear end on BF4. The only reason I bought BF4 was because of the increased player count, only to find out that they actually DECREASED the player count for TDM. Good Christ. I hope at least they'll add a Close Quarters-like expansion in the future, which was the only playmode that was actually fun on the console version of 360. Why they even put Armor Kill on console who knows. The console version of AK was the worst expansion I've seen for any game ever.

I liked rush on vanilla BF3, but I stopped playing shortly after they added private servers and started rebalancing guns. I'd just had enough. I haven't even touched BF4 since Titanfall came out, and I doubt I will again unless one of the expansions turns out to be outstanding.

Battlefield games always seem to start out strong and lose steam after Dice fucks with them enough. I really liked vanilla BF4 after the kinks got worked out.

virtualboyCOLOR
Dec 22, 2004

Laserface posted:

Man, these update previews are kind of annoying.

I had an update waiting for my console to be powered on, which led to my game updates not downloading. so after downloading 1.2GB to play battlefield, I got to join my friends party and get hit with another 300MB update to party chat, presumably. then that downloads in 10 minutes and causes my console to restart and now install the update.

I dont know what 'background updates' means in Xbox HQ, but it certainly doesnt align with any rational understanding of the concept.

2.5hrs now and I still havent been able to play a game because of updates.

(and its not my connection: hardwired network with 100mbps down)

Wasn't the best thing about consoles that you could pop a disk in and play it? Steam (and hell even origin) updates games automatically when your PC is on while still giving you access to all the community features. If steam needs an update, it waits until you're ready without stopping you from playing the games you've purchased.

Basically, what the hell happened to break the only benefit of console games?

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
I think what happened is xbox one isn't too good

Daedo
May 5, 2002
The feature to rent servers was only added a few days ago, then removed from Xbox One while they try to iron out some issues with it.

The servers you were finding were ones people had already bought prior to the service going away.



http://blogs.battlefield.com/2014/04/rent-a-server-death-shield-fix/

Crafty
Dec 9, 2003

I CAN'T SEE SHIT.












xbox one is the best

Laserface posted:

Man, these update previews are kind of annoying.

I had an update waiting for my console to be powered on, which led to my game updates not downloading. so after downloading 1.2GB to play battlefield, I got to join my friends party and get hit with another 300MB update to party chat, presumably. then that downloads in 10 minutes and causes my console to restart and now install the update.

I dont know what 'background updates' means in Xbox HQ, but it certainly doesnt align with any rational understanding of the concept.

2.5hrs now and I still havent been able to play a game because of updates.

(and its not my connection: hardwired network with 100mbps down)

Sounds like you should opt out of being a beta tester.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Crafty posted:

Sounds like you should opt out of being a beta tester.

I don't think Gamestop is currently running any deals for Xbox One trade-ins.

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:

Wasn't the best thing about consoles that you could pop a disk in and play it?

Basically, what the hell happened to break the only benefit of console games?

Wow, that's the only benefit of consoles? Here I thought it was not having everyone huddle around your computer on hardware that needs near-constant upgrades to play the latest games using office productivity hardware to make your mans move. You learn something new every day!:shobon:

Downloading games is GREAT. I've never had a problem with background downloads on my Bone doing their thing unobtrusively. Perhaps my settings are different.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

virtualboyCOLOR posted:

Wasn't the best thing about consoles that you could pop a disk in and play it? Steam (and hell even origin) updates games automatically when your PC is on while still giving you access to all the community features. If steam needs an update, it waits until you're ready without stopping you from playing the games you've purchased.

Basically, what the hell happened to break the only benefit of console games?

Normally, it works fine. the game updates download when the console is in standby mode, and then will take a few minutes to install when you attempt to play it. Depending on the actual content being updated, the 'ready to play' function is also there (though in BF4s case, its usually multiplayer patches, which means you can only play campaign). Forza for example, when adding new tracks or cars, you can boot the game and start playing and the game doesnt use the content until its ready. It handles the function really well.

It may not have been due to the preview program as I hadnt had my xbox on in a week or so due to life happening, but I noticed the power bricks light was orange (fully powered off) and new it would update when I turned it on - this was downloaded successfully and just needed an install.

However, that full power off prevented battlefield from downloading and installing a patch, which then took 2 hours to download and install.

Normally, this would only be a few minutes while the console did a long boot, installed the update, then applied the BF4 update.

Crafty posted:

Sounds like you should opt out of being a beta tester.

I liked the idea of being able to provide feedback in a more direct manner (since the error logs and usage info is collected) although its starting to be significantly less valuable than just being able to play games.

virtualboyCOLOR
Dec 22, 2004

CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:

Wow, that's the only benefit of consoles? Here I thought it was not having everyone huddle around your computer on hardware that needs near-constant upgrades to play the latest games using office productivity hardware to make your mans move.

Do you still live in the year 2006 because none of these things are remotely true now? Do you even know what SSD drives are?

As a previous avid console gamer, I basically got pushed to the PC side due to things like the above happening on my 360 and PS3. It actually took longer to update/install the game on the consoles than in did to have steam download and play. Its insane.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:

Wow, that's the only benefit of consoles? Here I thought it was not having everyone huddle around your computer on hardware that needs near-constant upgrades to play the latest games using office productivity hardware to make your mans move. You learn something new every day!:shobon:

This is one of the most ridiculously uninformed posts I have seen in a long time. I'm gald you are having fun on your gaming device of choice, after all that's what it's all about.
But why would you huddle around a PC? I can stream games from my PC to other devices if I like or even to my TV over wireless HDMI - it's really cool and doesn't tie you to the TV (if you don't want to be).

Also, constant hardware upgrades, really? Come on man. OK, small wager for you - I bet if I don't upgrade my PC for five years it will still run Titanfall at 1080p and 60 fps easily, without breaking a sweat - the only condition is you don't upgrade your gaming device of choice as well and see how that does.

As for 'office productivity' well that's just a bonus you get with every PC I guess, yours to use if you want or need it. My PC paid for itself long ago by being used for work sometimes, can you say the same?

I'm not knocking the The One here, you go for it, enjoy - Just don't talk nonsense.

peter gabriel fucked around with this message at 01:14 on May 5, 2014

CAPT. Rainbowbeard
Apr 5, 2012

My incredible goodposting transcends time and space but still it cannot transform the xbone into a good console.
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Yes, of course I'm being silly. :v:

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos

CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:

Yes, of course I'm being silly. :v:

You cheeky monkey, you got an effort post out of me and everything :laugh:

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Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
Xbone is so bad the xbone thread is a pc master race thread in disguise

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