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SF isn't going to collapse. You'll just see prices go up to the point where techies find the intangibles of living in the city outweighed by the costs and push start-ups/firms to relocate. It's kind of funny to see nerds making 6 figures living in college style room share arrangements though.
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Hobologist posted:Sounds like you're saying the solution is deregulation. Well, it would certainly result in lower property values after the first big quake comes along.
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Oh and the most right wing thing I've done I suppose was earnestly and childlishly (because I was 13) believe in trade deals and open markets and Clinton WTO deals as the answer to the world's problems. The Friedman Unit....was me.
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http://aattp.org/breaking-mitt-romney-urges-gop-to-raise-minimum-wage-video/ ... ...Third times a charm?
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May 10, 2014 07:25
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Evil Sagan posted:What's the most right-wing thing you've done? I voted for Bob Dole in a school-sponsored mock election in 1996. Does a four year US Army enlistment in the middle of two wars count?
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May 10, 2014 07:44
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Rap Record Hoarder posted:Does a four year US Army enlistment in the middle of two wars count? Not unless your family was well-connected and pulled strings to keep you from ever getting deployed.
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May 10, 2014 08:34
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UberJew posted:Not unless your family was well-connected and pulled strings to keep you from ever getting deployed. Bah, you don't need that. As a Staff Sergeant of mine proved, you can get out of a deployment by 1. Not showing up at all. 2. Mysteriously vanishing before getting on the plane while waiting in the terminal. 3. Sitting on the flight line and crying like a 2 year old. These were three completely separate incidents all from the same guy. He was not kicked out (everyone had a free pass to disrespect the living poo poo out of him though)
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Slickdrac posted:Bah, you don't need that. I bet this son of a bitch used his military discount at malls too. Fucker.
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May 10, 2014 10:07
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I voted for Mitt Romney in 2002....because I hated women at the time. I'm pretty sure that fits the bill. I'm glad I grew out of that.
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May 10, 2014 12:13
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I thought William Weld was actually a pretty decent Governor of Massachusetts, at the time. Does that count? Incidentally, last year was the year I looked at my registration as an Independent (or 'unenrolled', as we call it in the Commonwealth), compared it to my voting history of 'vote for the dude with the D next to his name whenever possible because the guy with the R is invariably a douchenozzle,' and finally bit the bullet and registered as a Democrat. So I've got that going for me, at least.
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May 10, 2014 12:31
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I used to enjoy South Park.
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I voted for  in the 2008 primary because I genuinely thought fiat currency and non-interventionism would solve populist problems (and because I felt compelled to vote for a Republican because of my family background, but couldn't support any of the other clowns in that race). 
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May 10, 2014 13:08
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I thought William Weld was actually a pretty decent Governor of Massachusetts, at the time. Does that count? Compared to the other 3 republican governors since Weld, Weld was pretty decent.
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May 10, 2014 13:28
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Raenir Salazar posted:I think I've always been consistently left wing in the view that the state should care for its citizens but I was certainly an authoritarian in high school, I'm not sure if there exists a brand of 'Social Fascism' that rejects Corporatism, I'm not a polisci student but I was probably that back then, now I'm much more of a Marxist-Leninist but would be fine with a Social-Democratic situation. So you were a Stalinist, then?
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May 10, 2014 13:29
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Pillowpants posted:Compared to the other 3 republican governors since Weld, Weld was pretty decent. In retrospect, he wasn't exactly horrible - in many ways he was quite good. If more Republicans were like Bill Weld I wouldn't have the distaste for the party that I do. But my reasons for liking him at the time - I was fourteen - had a lot less to do with his politics and a lot more to do with the fact that Dukakis had lost his bid for the Presidency and therefore clearly both he and his party were Losers that should stop embarrassing my state. They were not exctly well-reasoned politics, is what I'm getting at. 
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May 10, 2014 13:40
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moller posted:The Bay Area is a theoretical utopia, except no one can afford to move there, people who were born there live either with their parents or packed five deep in hovels, the latino population that gave several areas their charm have been pushed out, and the only jobs available are in tech and foodservice - the latter of which likely means you are living entirely off of your parents. Also its weather can best be described as "damp".
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Hey, does have anything to do with the burrito brand? I was pretty loving terrible when I was younger  . I did a weird loop through hard right fascism, generic right wing views and I briefly did the libertarian thing before ending up whereever I am now, which is mostly consumed with guilt.My first election, I voted for McCain, 'cause he was older and less likely to get a second shot if Obama was the wrong choice. Man, I need to fall off the wagon.
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May 10, 2014 13:59
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I've always voted solid Democratic but for a while in college thought I was somewhat libertarian until I saw sexism in action, figured out what a privileged upbringing I had, and that 95 percent of libertarians are complete shitheels.
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TheRamblingSoul posted:So you were a Stalinist, then? I feel like there's probably a level of nuance there where it probably isn't a good fit, because I didn't have an educational grounding in Marxism or Scientific Socialism at the time.
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DoctorWhat posted:I used to enjoy South Park. It was very funny when I was in middle school, and I'd probably still laugh at it if I had television. Also, I don't know why you brought this up...
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Neo Rasa posted:http://aattp.org/breaking-mitt-romney-urges-gop-to-raise-minimum-wage-video/ Seriously what the gently caress is his game here? Only thing I can think of is prepping for a party hop 
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I guess I've always been rather leftwing, so my greatest rightwing sin was being an uniformed enough little poo poo to think "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" was an internally consistent platform. Also, a lot of technofestishism, so I guess a milquetoast white libertarian.Magres posted:Seriously what the gently caress is his game here? Only thing I can think of is prepping for a party hop Or simply an attempt at reframing the argument on why social services must be cut so that ARE JOB CREATORS can properly pay a fair wage to all our hardworking americans.
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May 10, 2014 15:44
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Those three are just waving with the wind. Popular opinion supports minimum wage and these limp sails know it. They have no internal compass, only what public opinion and the chance to win says they should believe.
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In high school debate me and my partner used an Objectivism Kritik as part of our arguments on the negative.
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shrike82 posted:SF isn't going to collapse. It's at least going to end up with the repeat of the 1950-1980 population decline over which 13% of the city population left. And that's if they can avoid getting struck by a major earthquake that finally levels all the hilariously out of earthquake code housing stock that makes up a large majority of the housing in the city.
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Magres posted:Seriously what the gently caress is his game here? Only thing I can think of is prepping for a party hop Santorum and Pawlenty are speaking up in favor of a Minimum Wage increase as well. This looks to me like something the GOPe has latched on to as a weapon to use as a wedge issue to distinguish themselves from the Tea Party. If that's the case then the GOPe gets to cast themselves as champion of the working man while knowing they won't actually have to raise the minimum wage because the Tea Party will have an aneurysm. If I had to wager I'd say this is more about internal GOP politics than actual policy, which is pretty funny.
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Evil Sagan posted:What's the most right-wing thing you've done? I voted for Bob Dole in a school-sponsored mock election in 1996. I grew up Southern Baptist and drank the kool aid. I vehemently argued against welfare, affirmative action policies, evolution and abortion while routinely listening to Rush Limbaugh. I attended 2 meetings of my college's Republican group. I voted for both Bush brothers, once in 1998 and once in 2000. So, do I win? Prester John posted:Santorum and Pawlenty are speaking up in favor of a Minimum Wage increase as well. This looks to me like something the GOPe has latched on to as a weapon to use as a wedge issue to distinguish themselves from the Tea Party. If that's the case then the GOPe gets to cast themselves as champion of the working man while knowing they won't actually have to raise the minimum wage because the Tea Party will have an aneurysm. If I had to wager I'd say this is more about internal GOP politics than actual policy, which is pretty funny. Raising the minimum wage is really popular and the Republicans aren't going to win much fighting tooth and nail against it. Especially not anyone who wants to be president. Gyges fucked around with this message at 16:06 on May 10, 2014 |
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Gyges posted:I grew up Southern Baptist and drank the kool aid. I vehemently argued against welfare, affirmative action policies, evolution and abortion while routinely listening to Rush Limbaugh. I attended 2 meetings of my college's Republican group. I voted for both Bush brothers, once in 1998 and once in 2000. You win and you lose. 
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Gyges posted:I grew up Southern Baptist and drank the kool aid. I vehemently argued against welfare, affirmative action policies, evolution and abortion while routinely listening to Rush Limbaugh. I attended 2 meetings of my college's Republican group. I voted for both Bush brothers, once in 1998 and once in 2000. Thankfully they'd rather beat the drums of Benghazi. Fires up the base and keeps the heat off wage chat.
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I've always been a left wing nutcase but I didn't become a Marxist until college. My girlfriend in high school gave a pocket Communist Manifesto for Valentines Day because it would piss her dad off. She was pretty awesome. I think the most right wing thing I ever believed was that the War in Afghanistan was the good war and that an indefinite occupation was a good idea.
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DoctorWhat posted:I used to enjoy South Park. I used to think people on welfare should be put on birth control. Now I think people on welfare should be given free birth control if they want it. What's funny is a lot of right wingers are ok with the first but somehow the second is morally reprehensible
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Evil Sagan posted:What's the most right-wing thing you've done? I voted for Bob Dole in a school-sponsored mock election in 1996. I was anti-abortion. Although in my defense I was a 12yr old from rural south Georgia at the time.
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SubponticatePoster posted:I used to think people on welfare should be put on birth control. Now I think people on welfare should be given free birth control if they want it. What's funny is a lot of right wingers are ok with the first but somehow the second is morally reprehensible Whoah. My mind is now suitably hosed.
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In 07 I thought ron paul was pretty neat and looking back it was only because of the novelty of someone relatively high up the ladder with an R next to their name speaking out so strongly against the Iraq war, which I loving hated from the jump. I even signed up on a list of activist/supporters for him thinking it would at least connect me to the right group of people in my area. I was fortunate in that my brother in law to-be had worked as a page in DC for some years and actually knew all about Ron Paul, seen him in person many time when the cameras weren't on, etc. So we're hanging out one day and the conversation turns to politics. I get as far as "That Ron Paul guy sounds like he knows what's up". I immediately get cut off with "Dude. No." and the seriousness in his expression as he shook his head at me was the same as you might see if I has said, "Hey so I think I'm gonna give this crystal meth stuff a try". I would have figured out he's a shitbird on my own, eventually. ESPECIALLY when I got called by someone for signing up on that list. Wow, that was a fun phone call. If there's anything crazier than Ron/Rand Paul it's their starry-eyed supporters. To be honest I knew I was a leftist many years before this, but this was after so very many years of dubya, and I lived in an area steeped in his base. More to the point, I lived near and worked for some of the more wealthy portion of his base (I was still getting paid peanuts, having not yet learned how to extract properly from the bourgeois) . The two local groups that didn't support Bush were leftists (the few I knew fled the state) and some groups of libertarians including Paulites. I got desperate
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SubponticatePoster posted:Hey don't beat yourself up, the first couple of seasons were actually funny. But did you know Margaret Sanger was a eugenicist??? Who's the real racist now?
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It's depressing that even Bill Clinton is going after the straw man of "kill the bankers" when the actual argument is "prosecute even one banker, pretty please."
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Arglebargle III posted:It's depressing that even Bill Clinton is going after the straw man of "kill the bankers" when the actual argument is "prosecute even one banker, pretty please." But if a banker is prosecuted and goes to prison, then people will develop an appetite for justice! I mean thirst for blood!
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Besides if we send a banker to jail no one will want to be a banker, just like how when we jail drug users everyone else stops using drugs ergo
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I used to think I was a Republican when I was a kid, because I "hated hippies" and my dad loves Reagan. I even still remember smugly replying to some other kid in the sixth grade who mentioned Clinton cheating on his wife wasn't that big a deal with "It's not that he cheated, it's that he lied about it to the American people  " which I'm sure is some random talking point I had picked up from my parents, but at the time I actually believed politics was basically a bastion of honor and integrity that he had violated in some way.But then 9/11 happened when I was in high school, and while I was as scared and uncertain as everyone else, even then all the "send the nukes turn the Middle East into glass" talk made me uncomfortable. This was also when I began to notice (or maybe this is when it increased?) all the racism against Hispanics put out by conservatives, and living in El Paso where half the kids I knew were first or second-generation Mexican immigrants, it was pretty difficult to see them as evil welfare invaders when we're all standing around talking about how sweet Goldeneye 64 was. So I guess it was mainly the unabashed xenophobia and racism that turned me off. Thanks, Republicans! To my credit though, I never actually believed in that just world, hard-work-means-success bullshit. Even then I realized how little work you have to do if you're a little smarter than the other kids and whether or not the teachers like you, and really, how could you not kinda hate the rich white kid whose parents took him to Europe that summer?
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