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How dumb was pushing back the draft? This poll is closed.
Really dumb	58	11.09%
	95	18.16%
	121	23.14%
Too much mustard	249	47.61%
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SlipUp: Sep 30, 2006; stayin c o o l

If Andre really wants to get out of Houston that bad he'd be willing to restructure his salary.

# ? May 14, 2014 00:03

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 17:09

The Puppy Bowl: Jan 31, 2013; A dog, in the house.

*woof*

bhsman posted:

If the Bills get a 4th for Stevie, I'd want a 2nd at a minimum for Andre, if not more. That said, I really hate that it's even come to this.

gently caress.

The Ravens got a 6th for Baltimore and while Q isn't Andre Johnson he only had half the cap hit. Who are the teams who could even swallow that contract? Cleveland? Oakland?

It would just be cruel to send Andre to those places.

# ? May 14, 2014 00:41

Abugadu: Jul 12, 2004; 1st Sgt. Matthews and the men have Procured for me a cummerbund from a traveling gypsy, who screeched Victory shall come at a Terrible price. i am Honored.

Detroit_Dogg posted:

Give me ______ and I will play ______.

Tossed_Salad_Man posted:

"Getting PAID to play a GAME? Are you loving kidding me? You give me 500,000 dollars a year, I will lay naked on the pitchers mound and allow boiled potatoes to be fired into my rear end in a top hat with a pitching machine."

# ? May 14, 2014 00:44

Blitz of 404 Error: Sep 19, 2007; Joe Biden is a top 15 president

The Puppy Bowl posted:

The Ravens got a 6th for Baltimore and while Q isn't Andre Johnson he only had half the cap hit. Who are the teams who could even swallow that contract? Cleveland? Oakland?

It would just be cruel to send Andre to those places.

In Oakland he would catch throws from Schaub and Carr again :unsmigghh:

# ? May 14, 2014 01:00

No Irish Need Imply: Nov 30, 2008

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10927282/renegotiation-nfl-drug-policy-reduce-marijuana-punishments (below is the whole article)

quote:

It would be too late to help Josh Gordon, Will Hill or anyone else in danger of lengthy suspensions for violations of current rules. But when and if the NFL's new drug policy is finalized and announced, it will include changes specific to marijuana and other drugs of abuse.

A source told ESPN.com on Tuesday that the renegotiation of the drug policy, which has been going on since 2011 and includes testing for HGH, also will significantly increase the threshold for a positive marijuana test and reduce the punishments for violations involving that drug.

The source said the NFL's policy on marijuana is outdated, pointing out that WADA has a higher threshold for a positive test than the NFL currently does, and in need of updating.

The NFLPA has expressed to the league an interest in studying the medical research that has led to the legalization of marijuana in many states for medicinal use, but it believes changes were needed in the meantime regardless.

What's holding up the implementation and announcement of changes to the league's drug policy is a continued standoff over arbitration of discipline. In cases of non-analytical positives (i.e., an Alex Rodriguez type of case in which a player is found in violation of the drug policy by some method other than a failed test) or in cases of violations of law (i.e., hypothetically, a player got caught trying to smuggle prescription drugs across the Canadian border), the NFLPA has asked that discipline appeals be heard by an independent arbitrator.

The NFL has continued to insist that the commissioner have final say over discipline matters.

It's the same hangup that was addressed last week by union president Eric Winston, who said of commissioner Roger Goodell on the issue of HGH testing, "He wants to hold all the cards and he wants to be the judge, jury and executioner, and we're not going to go for an un-American system like that."

In response to the union's claims, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello e-mailed the following last week to ESPN: "It's kind of funny because since 2011 the union has come up with one excuse after another to avoid implementing an agreement to test for HGH. First, it was the testing method; then it was the population study; now it's commissioner authority. Our commitment to testing is clear. The same cannot be said of the union."

The dispute over arbitration, it turns out, is holding up more than just HGH testing. There are widespread changes to the NFL's drug policy that these two sides have negotiated and are waiting to implement once they can reach agreement on the administration of discipline.

# ? May 14, 2014 01:12

Volkerball: Oct 15, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

Blitz7x posted:

In Oakland he would catch throws from Schaub and Carr again

McGloin is going to be least bad out of our qb's this season and you know it.

# ? May 14, 2014 01:21

A Man and his dog: Oct 24, 2013; by R. Guyovich

Oh gently caress it. Can they just negotiate that a player can fail a pot test in the offseason but not during the regular season?!?!?

Seems like both sides could win?? :mystery:

# ? May 14, 2014 01:22

Volkerball: Oct 15, 2009; by FactsAreUseless

They should do like my work does and test you once when you get hired on, and then never again unless you hurt yourself a la Kevin Kolb on that rubber mat.

# ? May 14, 2014 01:27

Dattserberg: Dec 30, 2005; National champion, Heisman winner, King crab enthusiast

Atticus Finch posted:

Cool I'm watching Calvin Johnson's future happen.

# ? May 14, 2014 01:28

Amy Pole Her: Jun 17, 2002

Volkerball posted:

They should do like my work does and test you once when you get hired on, and then never again unless you hurt yourself a la Kevin Kolb on that rubber mat.

Mine too. If they drug tested regularly we'd lose 10 people a week

# ? May 14, 2014 01:29

kiimo: Jul 24, 2003

quote:

They went 12-4 in 2012 but collapsed last year. In all, Johnson�s only been part of two playoff wins in 11 years.

Poor Andre Johnson. Come to the Chiefs Andre, we haven't won one in 21 years.

# ? May 14, 2014 01:31

Chris James 2: Aug 9, 2012

I thought the point was to make Andre's situation less depressing, not more.

# ? May 14, 2014 01:32

3 DONG HORSE: May 22, 2008; I'd like to thank Satan for everything he's done for this organization

Banish him to the same purgatory the Gods sent Schaub

# ? May 14, 2014 01:33

davecrazy: Nov 25, 2004; I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

See, the Giants only let their good WRs walk after they win the Super Bowl.

# ? May 14, 2014 01:36

Shangri-Law School: Feb 19, 2013

Dattserberg posted:

Cool I'm watching Calvin Johnson's future happen.

Calvin's too nice to demand a trade. He'll just fade away.

# ? May 14, 2014 01:41

The Puppy Bowl: Jan 31, 2013; A dog, in the house.

*woof*

Far too nice. Unlike noted diva rear end in a top hat Andre Johnson :rolleyes:

# ? May 14, 2014 01:44

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Cruel and Unusual posted:

Calvin's too nice to demand a trade. He'll just fade away.

He'll retire abruptly like the other well-known quitter Barry Sanders

# ? May 14, 2014 01:51

FUCKFACE MORON: Apr 23, 2010; by sebmojo

kiimo posted:

Poor Andre Johnson. Come to the Chiefs Andre, we haven't won one in 21 years.

Tiny Hands to AJ80 5-yard quickslants all day urr day

# ? May 14, 2014 01:54

Gerund: Sep 12, 2007; He push a man

Has anyone been watching Draft Academy?

It feels like an earnest and respectful documentary such as the early seasons of The Real World.

Meaning I can't wait until it spotlights crazy ex girlfriends and drunken confessions and the token cornfed rear end in a top hat like late season Real World.

# ? May 14, 2014 02:10

Doltos: Dec 28, 2005; 🤌🤌🤌

Atticus Finch posted:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10927282/renegotiation-nfl-drug-policy-reduce-marijuana-punishments (below is the whole article)

Even if they redo the drug policy the Giants are one of those teams ran by stupid hardliners that would kick their players off for any marijuana use.

# ? May 14, 2014 02:14

davecrazy: Nov 25, 2004; I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Doltos posted:

Even if they redo the drug policy the Giants are one of those teams ran by stupid hardliners that would kick their players off for any marijuana use.

# ? May 14, 2014 02:18

Silly Burrito: Nov 27, 2007; SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT

Intruder posted:

If we must trade Andre, make it for Fitz

Would you accept a Robert Meachem?

# ? May 14, 2014 02:53

Febreeze: Oct 24, 2011; I want to care, butt I dont

davecrazy posted:

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh
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The greatest defensive player of all time is going to get some extra leeway. Plus, it was the 80's. Everyone was snorting that coke

We just jettisoned Will Hill for his pot bullshit. Though to be fair it took a few years. It's not too bad.

# ? May 14, 2014 03:29

DupaDupa: May 21, 2009; I'm Samurai Mike
I stop 'em cold.

Why is everyone pretending this isn't going to end with AJ80 traded for Ryan Mallett

# ? May 14, 2014 03:32

FizFashizzle: Mar 30, 2005

DupaDupa posted:

Why is everyone pretending this isn't going to end with AJ80 traded for Ryan Mallett

Because it's too loving early to drink.

# ? May 14, 2014 03:32

Burginator: Sep 10, 2007; Two ALL BEEF patties,
Special Sauce?
Let Us Cheese.

FizFashizzle posted:

Because it's too loving early to drink.

Maybe for you. This laphroaig would disagree with you.

# ? May 14, 2014 03:37

Petey: Nov 26, 2005; For who knows what is good for a person in life, during the few and meaningless days they pass through like a shadow? Who can tell them what will happen under the sun after they are gone?

DupaDupa posted:

Why is everyone pretending this isn't going to end with AJ80 traded for Ryan Mallett

from your lips to god's ears, my friend

# ? May 14, 2014 04:02

Spring Break My Heart: Feb 15, 2012

Calvin and Andre form the league's greatest WR combo, in New England.

# ? May 14, 2014 04:40

Chokes McGee: Aug 7, 2008; This is Urotsuki.

Tossed_Salad_Man posted:

"Getting PAID to play a GAME? Are you loving kidding me? You give me 500,000 dollars a year, I will lay naked on the pitchers mound and allow boiled potatoes to be fired into my rear end in a top hat with a pitching machine."

Hell, I'd do that for free! :iamafag:

# ? May 14, 2014 04:48

Chris James 2: Aug 9, 2012

OverTheCap posted:

Johnson carries a salary cap charge in 2014 of $15,644,583 and a cash contract value of $11 million. If traded before June 1, Johnson�s cap charge for the Texans would be $11,964,166 representing a savings of $3,680,417 against the cap. If traded after June 1 the Texans would take a $4.644 million cap charge in 2014 and a $7.319 million charge in 2015. In either scenario the trade would help rather than hurt the Texans salary cap.

The more difficult aspect of the trade is to find a trade partner. Johnson has $34.5 million remaining on his contract, a huge number for a player that is about to turn 33 years old. While Johnson plays at a far higher level than his peers at that age, players like Anquan Boldin and Wes Welker are working for $6 million a season. To complicate matters Johnson would likely want an extension or some type of guarantee on his contract.

Only 12 potential destinations could absorb his $11 million salary without touching the contract. Of those 13 only the Bengals, Eagles, Packers , and Colts would be considered sure fire contenders and most of those squads are set at the WR position. Fringe playoff teams with the room would include the Jets, Dolphins, and Bills. Buffalo would certainly have no interest and Miami is already overspent at the position.

Send him to Cinci, Dalton needs a fresh target and this division needs a chance at a playoff win

# ? May 14, 2014 05:10

The Puppy Bowl: Jan 31, 2013; A dog, in the house.

*woof*

Dude.

Shut up. We don't need to give the Bengals any help in claiming the North this year.

# ? May 14, 2014 05:26

Big Ol Marsh Pussy: Jan 7, 2007

there is absolutely no reason for the bengals to trade for andre johnson. like maybe if his deal was expiring

# ? May 14, 2014 05:28

Pops Mgee: Aug 20, 2009; People all over the world,
Join Hands,
Start the Love Train!

Andre is going to somehow end up on the 49ers, under the cap, for like a 5th round pick because they are the worst.

# ? May 14, 2014 05:30

John Brown: Jul 10, 2009

Question: why does Cam Newton not have a new contract already?

# ? May 14, 2014 05:36

The Puppy Bowl: Jan 31, 2013; A dog, in the house.

*woof*

Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:

there is absolutely no reason for the bengals to trade for andre johnson. like maybe if his deal was expiring

It's certainly not a need but if they could address the cap issues keeping Johnson next to Green for 5 years would be disgustingly difficult to defend.

# ? May 14, 2014 05:40

Spoeank: Jul 16, 2003; That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

Pops Mgee posted:

Andre is going to somehow end up on the 49ers, under the cap, for like a 5th round pick because they are the worst.

Luckily there's no way this can happen this year because of the cap situation.

Now next off-season we can talk :getin:

# ? May 14, 2014 05:42

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

John Brown posted:

Question: why does Cam Newton not have a new contract already?

Same reason Kap and Dalton don't.

# ? May 14, 2014 05:42

FizFashizzle: Mar 30, 2005

John Brown posted:

Question: why does Cam Newton not have a new contract already?

Still under contract and the panthers can't afford to do it right now.

There's really no risk of him not being locked up unless he has a career ending injury.

# ? May 14, 2014 05:43

Big Ol Marsh Pussy: Jan 7, 2007

The Puppy Bowl posted:

It's certainly not a need but if they could address the cap issues keeping Johnson next to Green for 5 years would be disgustingly difficult to defend.

They can't

At least not while keeping Burfict, Green, and _andy

# ? May 14, 2014 05:43

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 17:09

BlindSite: Feb 8, 2009

ROSS MY SALAD posted:

Same reason Kap and Dalton don't.

Nah Cam is actually a good passer. It's all about the dollars not the trust.

# ? May 14, 2014 06:08

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