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Karmine posted:I'm disappointed that they're calling it "mini sin limite" instead of "Wrestling Observer Con Limite." Am I the only one?
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Onmi posted:he stopped being Cena's lifting buddy, Cesaro is now. Although supposedly Cena really wants to work with Big E, so he'll probably be facing him at SS or beyond. I think it's more that he didn't get over fast enough for them and is kinda bad on promos
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May 15, 2014 20:17
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They didn't even let him try the five gimmick and it was in his loving song. They deliberately didn't let him do the thing that already got him over in NXT. They've turned 90% of the roster into jobbers, there was no harm in letting him pin Heath Slater, Sin Cara, Dolph Ziggler, etc. with five counts.
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May 15, 2014 20:19
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Tato posted:They didn't even let him try the five gimmick and it was in his loving song. They deliberately didn't let him do the thing that already got him over in NXT. They've turned 90% of the roster into jobbers, there was no harm in letting him pin Heath Slater, Sin Cara, Dolph Ziggler, etc. with five counts. How many gimmicks that started in NXT transitioned well into WWE?
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May 15, 2014 20:28
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Jubs posted:How many gimmicks that started in NXT transitioned well into WWE? Well, one of the top heels on the main roster, for one.
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May 15, 2014 20:29
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Well, one of the top heels on the main roster, for one. So one
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May 15, 2014 20:45
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oatgan posted:So one What about Daniel Bryan?
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May 15, 2014 20:48
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And some will say "The Shield!" but that wasn't their gimmick in NXT.
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Tato posted:WWE Booking Committee Steps to Success: 
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May 15, 2014 20:49
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Jubs posted:How many gimmicks that started in NXT transitioned well into WWE? As far as wrestling gimmicks go, I think "This guy is so badass he needs a five count to pin people" has a much more proven track record of success than "dances with bubbles," "dances with bunnies," and "this guy sucks but he's getting his doctorate." I think it was worth a shot.
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May 15, 2014 20:50
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Skunkrocker posted:What about Daniel Bryan? Didn't work in NXT in that form, and his gimmick now is pretty distinct from the American Dragon he was in developmental. And even if it wasn't, it'd be like saying Punk is an example.
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May 15, 2014 20:50
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Well let's look at the NXT callups that kept their gimmicks: Emma: I think she could have gotten over if they didn't try to ram her down everyone's throats, and didn't stick her in that endless Santino/Fandango feud Bray: NXT gimmick that's over Rose: Not looking so good, but we'll see. So far is getting the Emma announcing treatment. Paige: Doing pretty well with her NXT gimmick, about as well as a Diva can do really in the current product. Rusev: I think his gimmick is doing just fine. Bo: Vignettes are awesome, really curious to see how it goes lol completely forgot about Xavier. I don't think that's the gimmick's fault though, really who is going to survive the "team up with R-Truth and lose a lot" treatment?
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May 15, 2014 20:52
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I remember laughing heartily at the Raw I went to in January when Fandango beat Xavier in like 40 seconds.
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May 15, 2014 20:54
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Fandango seems to be slowly morphing back to his Greezy Johnny Curtis gimmick from NXT, for what it's worth.
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May 15, 2014 20:57
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flashy_mcflash posted:Fandango seems to be slowly morphing back to his Greezy Johnny Curtis gimmick from NXT, for what it's worth. Really, Summer Rae getting on Total Divas might have saved his career for the moment
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May 15, 2014 20:58
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oatgan posted:So one Umm there are three guys in the Wyatt Family try to keep up oatgan.
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May 15, 2014 22:38
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Emma's gimmick was more that she was kinda spaced out but also a great wrestler, but they made her the female Santino because they did one tag match in NXT that got over huge because it was a one time surprise thing.
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May 15, 2014 22:42
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dude wtf is meltzer trying to say re racism on this podcast "oh he said a million racist things and believed he should be allowed to be racist and for sure but I don't think he was racist" wha what's the criteria then dude
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epitasis posted:dude wtf is meltzer trying to say re racism on this podcast He doesn't think Watts is a racist who would discriminate against black people he thinks he was a hardcore libertarian who was prone to saying some really vile poo poo because he could. If he hated black people as much as his words indicated Ernie Ladd probably would have murdered him. Like right now there are probably some shop owners who don't actually hate gay people but they are so jazzed up on Ron Paul that they don't think the government should let make them serve them on general principle. Gay people probably still make them pretty uncomfortable though! Combine that with the stuff your Republican uncle says about black people being the real racists. With all of that said Bill Watts was pretty loving vile and racist.
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May 15, 2014 23:42
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May 15, 2014 23:52
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I think Dave just has trouble with the idea that someone can be racist, but like making money enough that they'll market to the race they look down on. His argument is that Watts pushed Ernie Ladd and JYD, right? A lot of men were sexists (and some still are), but a lot of their companies sold poo poo to women.
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May 15, 2014 23:57
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A 4th Eric Bischoff part? I listened to the first three and didn't learn too much. Much of the time spent was talking about fly fishing, a reality tv show no one cares about, and Eric selling some beer in the Midwest. The only two interesting sentences was when he said Scott Hall came up with the Crow gimmick and when he tried to put some of the blame on Bret not doing anything in WCW on Owen dying. Anything interesting come out of this one?
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He mainly talks about his last few stints with WCW, trying to buy WCW, and then a little bit on his time with WWE. The rest of it is talk about his business ventures and life now.
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May 16, 2014 00:25
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No. Nothing. Out of 4 hours, nothing. Never need to hear Eric again. Also, Meltz said on the board that Hall didn't even see The Crow, he seen Nash (!!!) dressed as The Crow and suggested Sting copy him. hosed up.
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May 16, 2014 00:27
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Karmine posted:I'm disappointed that they're calling it "mini sin limite" instead of "Wrestling Observer Con Limite." Am I the only one? 
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Tato posted:As far as wrestling gimmicks go, I think "This guy is so badass he needs a five count to pin people" has a much more proven track record of success than "dances with bubbles," "dances with bunnies," and "this guy sucks but he's getting his doctorate." I think it was worth a shot. That, plus wrestling crowds love chanting things, especially numbers.
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Super Ninja Fish posted:A 4th Eric Bischoff part? I listened to the first three and didn't learn too much. Much of the time spent was talking about fly fishing, a reality tv show no one cares about, and Eric selling some beer in the Midwest. The only two interesting sentences was when he said Scott Hall came up with the Crow gimmick and when he tried to put some of the blame on Bret not doing anything in WCW on Owen dying. Anything interesting come out of this one? Probably the most interesting thing is hearing Bischoff talk about how he could see the writing on the wall months in advance with the merger being the end of WCW, when in a previous Austin show (recorded either the same day or the day before) he'd talked about how he'd brought in entirely to the idea that the AOL-Time Warner merger meant great things for the company and somebody had to explain to him that the merger was going to be the end of WCW.
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I like that Eric Bischoff is so full of crap that he can't even keep his story straight in the same interview. no wonder him and Hogan get along.
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Dave has such a great rapport with Sempervive and there actually seems to been an awareness of the outside world with him (I don't think Bryan would even know who Pele is). I know Bryan fashions himself as a big radio/podcast guy now but I'd much rather have Dave/Sempervive doing shows from now on.
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NotQuiteQuentin posted:Dave has such a great rapport with Sempervive and there actually seems to been an awareness of the outside world with him (I don't think Bryan would even know who Pele is). I know Bryan fashions himself as a big radio/podcast guy now but I'd much rather have Dave/Sempervive doing shows from now on. Dave and Mike + Bryan and Vinnie would be cool
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Pisscast 40: For A Reason I'm not sure we talk about anything http://www.mediafire.com/download/f5y6hi5chlmk5zy/040+Wrestlehut+Pisscast.mp3 
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Jericho and Daniel Bryan's brief discussions of Vince during the latest podcast are really fascinating insights into this bizarre, bizarre old man. They basically just confirm things we've already heard, but stuff like Bryan saying,"I think there are still aspects of me that just enrage and confuse Vince" or Jericho recounting Vince approaching him and asking him worriedly,"Is it true that Bryan's a.... vegan....  " are hilariousBryan also recounts being fired by Vince, and how he left him speechless when he told him not to worry because he was going to make more money on the indies than he ever had before thanks to being in WWE, which Bryan credits with getting him hired back a couple months later.
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Jerusalem posted:Bryan also recounts being fired by Vince, and how he left him speechless when he told him not to worry because he was going to make more money on the indies than he ever had before thanks to being in WWE, which Bryan credits with getting him hired back a couple months later. The non-Shane McMahons have always had an incredulous streak. Stephanie had to fire Patrice O'Neal like four times because he didn't give enough of a poo poo when she called to fire him.
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oatgan posted:Pisscast 40: For A Reason Genital Custard & President Clit, brother!
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oatgan posted:Pisscast 40: For A Reason However, I did commission Karma Tornado to draw this lovely picture of famous horse-eater and Staind frontman Aaron Lewis, and had him send it to Karmine. 
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:However, I did commission Karma Tornado to draw this lovely picture of famous horse-eater and Staind frontman Aaron Lewis, and had him send it to Karmine. So beautiful. There are no words.
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New SNCJ is up.
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May 18, 2014 02:59
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New Attitude Era Podcast: Armageddon 1999.
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Can't wait until they see Miss Royal Rumble 2000
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So many podcasts been released, but the punchsport podcast didn't record their crazy reactions post ROH? Or are they waiting to be disappointed by RAW before they can talk about how much cooler ROH was?
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