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AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

senrath posted:

They're very, very hit-or-miss about removing porn stuff, even when it's reported.

It took them until it was already over to remove a PUA manual that was basically a book on how to date rape. The guy got all the money without having to actually produce anything.

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The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

AlmightyBob posted:

The guy got all the money without having to actually produce anything.

In fairness that was probably the lesser of two evils in that case.

Mildly Amusing
May 2, 2012

room temperature
Wasn't there some other Kickstarter project that scammed MRAs? Something that was supposed to respond to Anita Sarkeesian's videos?

Chaos Motor
Aug 29, 2003

by vyelkin
Also note that KS only reviews what you initially submit for review - if they accept your KS you can completely delete everything and write whatever the gently caress you want, you aren't bound in any way to actually keep the content that they approved.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Mildly Amusing posted:

Wasn't there some other Kickstarter project that scammed MRAs? Something that was supposed to respond to Anita Sarkeesian's videos?

That was the Tropes Vs Men In Videogames Indiegogo project. THERE'S MISANDRY IN THEM THAR VIDYA GAMES!!!!



These were their pledge reward tiers:


Here's their initial video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw-sjAICwKg

Somehow some people missed the fact that it's all an obvious pisstake and gave them money anyway and they apparently pulled in a little more than their $3,300 goal.

If you click on the link you'll notice it's now dead which is probably because someone eventually looked into it and found that after they got their money they didn't make any videos or donate it to charities like they'd promised and the whole thing was a scam.

Well, they did post one video which is pretty much the sound of someone laughing. Note the special message at the end indicating when they intend to release their next video. :v:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-pt0Qgw6Bk

I'm not 100% certain of their intentions going into this project but the end result was that they scammed a bunch of MRAs out of a bunch of money so that was actually pretty awesome. :iamafag:

Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 09:42 on May 20, 2014

Captain Capacitor
Jan 21, 2008

The code you say?
Do you like tits? I mean really like them? Do you want to relive the glory days of that wonderful show V.I.P, but yearn for a feature-length experience?

Then you'll want to donate to BLONDE SQUAD


If women with back problems aren't your thing, perhaps you'd prefer to stick it to that lovely SimCity game and play a immensely more realistic game

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008

Captain Capacitor posted:

If women with back problems aren't your thing, perhaps you'd prefer to stick it to that lovely SimCity game and play a immensely more realistic game

Made by a literally robot by the sounds of it.

EDIT: Don't worry, the project manager guy in that video has been certified in computers since 2003, obviously my money will be safe with him.

Rudager has a new favorite as of 08:19 on May 20, 2014

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

That was the Tropes Vs Men In Videogames Indiegogo project (although the url actually says 'misandryinvideogames'), but you'll notice that the link is now dead since Indiegogo eventually decided they didn't want to deal with this poo poo after all. Someone actually looked into it and found the Tropes Vs Men guys apparently got their money but didn't make any videos or donate it to charities like they'd promised.

Here's their initial video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw-sjAICwKg
(Somehow some people missed the fact that it's a pisstake and gave them money anyway.)

Here's their followup video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-pt0Qgw6Bk

I'm not 100% certain of their intentions going into this project but the end result was that they scammed a bunch of MRAs out of a bunch of money so that was actually pretty awesome. :v:

I thought they've produced some evidence that they'd donated the money to charities, but people didn't believe them or something. Anyway, the :irony: of it all is that while people tend to criticise Sarkeesian for kickstarting a project that she could readily do on her own, there are literally thousands of youtube videos that either humorously or somewhat seriously try to analise 'misandry' in video games. So those guys didn't need money either.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Paladinus posted:

I thought they've produced some evidence that they'd donated the money to charities, but people didn't believe them or something.

Gameranx.com contacted the charities and they had no record of any such donations.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Captain Capacitor posted:

Do you like tits? I mean really like them? Do you want to relive the glory days of that wonderful show V.I.P, but yearn for a feature-length experience?

Then you'll want to donate to BLONDE SQUAD


If women with back problems aren't your thing, perhaps you'd prefer to stick it to that lovely SimCity game and play a immensely more realistic game

Actually, I'm getting more of an Andy Sidaris feeling from the Blonde Squad more than anything.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Captain Capacitor posted:

If women with back problems aren't your thing, perhaps you'd prefer to stick it to that lovely SimCity game and play a immensely more realistic game



unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy


e:watch their video, the guy has no shoulders

unpacked robinhood has a new favorite as of 10:49 on May 20, 2014

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum

Captain Capacitor posted:

Do you like tits? I mean really like them? Do you want to relive the glory days of that wonderful show V.I.P, but yearn for a feature-length experience?

Then you'll want to donate to BLONDE SQUAD





BLONDE SQUAD posted:

Elizabeth is a porn actress, producer and director. She maintained her presence in the industry with shoots for "Score", "Gent", "D-Cup" and "Oui". Starr has her own adult movie production company, Hustler Productions, under which she directed her own movies.

No poo poo

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Arsenio "This is some good-rear end cheese" Hall started a 'joke' IndieGoGo campaign to buy the Clippers.

Which of course has Flexible Funding. So people are permanently giving their money to an established talk show host / guy from Coming to America for no real reason.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

Blast Fantasto posted:

Which of course has Flexible Funding. So people are permanently giving their money to an established talk show host / guy from Coming to America for no real reason.

It does say on the page that whatever money raised will go to charity, so unless that's a straight up lie and he runs with the cash there isn't really an issue here.

Although to be perfectly honest I wouldn't even really care if he did run off with the cash. Flexible funding campaigns are just the modern way to separate fools from their money. If you donate to any flexible funding campaign for any reason then you're a complete idiot and I don't care if your money gets stolen.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
So, in the UK just after those cheeky fuckers trying to get people to pay for improvements to there farm, and a fantasy mmo with nice concept art and that's it with a grand total of Ł3.06 funded, we have deux chevaux which is...

quote:

Deux Chevaux is the attempt of two horses to pull a two horse power car Citroen 2CV through the Royal borough of Kensington and Chelsea

Is it art? Is he a pretentious posh twat? Will the good people of the ‘Albertopolis’ and the metropolitan police force appreciate being told where to drive by "traffic marshals" or two, barely under control on a country road, shire horses freaking the gently caress out as he repeatedly nearly runs them over causing a 4 hour traffic jam? One rather suspects not.

learnincurve has a new favorite as of 19:58 on May 20, 2014

neongrey
Feb 28, 2007

Plaguing your posts with incidental music.

Chomp8645 posted:

Although to be perfectly honest I wouldn't even really care if he did run off with the cash. Flexible funding campaigns are just the modern way to separate fools from their money. If you donate to any flexible funding campaign for any reason then you're a complete idiot and I don't care if your money gets stolen.

Any reason? I dunno, I'm pretty happy with having given to a restoration fund for an historic telescope, and for having given to help out a musician I enjoy's medical bills.

Like, there are legit reasons to flex fund, but they're all things like, you know, charity, or 'we're going to do this anyway but every extra dollar will make it better'.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Blast Fantasto posted:

Arsenio "This is some good-rear end cheese" Hall started a 'joke' IndieGoGo campaign to buy the Clippers.

Which of course has Flexible Funding. So people are permanently giving their money to an established talk show host / guy from Coming to America for no real reason.

quote:

Before you just click off this page without giving me any money—remember this…NOTHING WOULD MAKE DONALD STERLING MORE ANGRY THAN IF I OWNED THE TEAM! That right there is worth you pledging a little money.

Ah, copying the OUYA business model of getting people to pay not for products they want, but to somehow "screw over the man"

If only he'd said something about renaming The Clippers into something steampunk.

Chaos Motor
Aug 29, 2003

by vyelkin
Clipper Ships are pretty steampunk already.

edit: Only 20 hrs left to get sum lulz by prank-pledging these dumb losers.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Chaos Motor posted:

Clipper Ships are pretty steampunk already.

Nah clippers were sailing ships, you're thinking of packet-steamers.

Edit: Ahahaha what the gently caress:

quote:

Reach Goal Rewards are Posted!

There's a few things about the Reach Goal Rewards to keep in mind:

Please do not switch your current Reward to a Reach Goal Reward!!!
Seriously, please don't switch, since we won't be able to honor those rewards unless we hit the new funding goal
We won't be able to fulfill Reach Goal Rewards unless we hit $7,500 in funding
Please message us or reply to our Update to tell us if you'd prefer that we refund Reach Goal Rewards, or switch to an Original Goal Reward, in the case we don't make $7,500 - this campaign is about YOU, and what YOU want!
There will be a limited number of Reach Goal Rewards available
New pledges taking original goal rewards WILL count towards our Reach Goal
Someone please message us, or reply to our update to tell us if current backers are able to make a new pledge for the Reach Goal, or if backers can select multiple rewards if their pledge level warrants it, we're not sure how exactly the pledging process works for you guys, and we can't pledge to our own project to find out.

Let us know if there's any questions or confusion about any of this, the Rewards system isn't as flexible as we'd like it to be so there's a lot of margin for error on our part, and on the part of our backers, so we want to try to be as clear and simple as we can be! :)

Chaos Motor
Aug 29, 2003

by vyelkin
Managing reach goals is complicated, Kickstarter doesn't let people select multiple reward tiers even if the person pledges enough to cover it, so if you have a $50 pledge and want the $20 and $30 tiers, you can't actually select both of them. Some people were just switching their pledge to the reach goal, which doesn't actually get you any closer to the reach goal.

KittyLitter
Feb 3, 2003
What's that? Free email service? For KIDS?!!?!?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/buggmail/buggmail-free-and-safe-email-for-kids-free-games-a?ref=category

No... He didn't just straight up jack the logo from the Cricut Company for his campaign. Why do you ask?



Edit : Awful KS twofer!

Tired of your Shop-Vac® Brand Shop-Vac filter getting clogged? Well hold onto your dicks because now there's a filter... for your filter!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1537690986/filterpal?ref=category

"But wait," you say, "My Shop-Vac® brand Shop-Vac already came with a machine washable foam filter cover designed to protect the paper filter from large particulates. Why do I need to buy this if the vac CAME WITH ONE ALREADY?"

Well is yours made of what looks like a cut up Gildan 5000 series 100% cotton Ash t-shirt? No? You need the Filter Pal!

KittyLitter has a new favorite as of 02:08 on May 21, 2014

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

KittyLitter posted:

What,s that? Free email service? For KIDS?!!?!?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/buggmail/buggmail-free-and-safe-email-for-kids-free-games-a?ref=category

No... He didn't just straight up jack the logo from the Cricut Company for his campaign. Why do you ask?

All the kids are emailing these days!

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.

KittyLitter posted:

What,s that? Free email service? For KIDS?!!?!?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/buggmail/buggmail-free-and-safe-email-for-kids-free-games-a?ref=category

No... He didn't just straight up jack the logo from the Cricut Company for his campaign. Why do you ask?
The website is eye-searing yellow and comic sans MS. This person should not be allowed to design websites or anything ever.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Elysiume posted:

The website is eye-searing yellow and comic sans MS. This person should not be allowed to design websites or anything ever.

Not only that, but all language options are poorly localised. And it's not even google translate because copy is slightly different for each language for some reason.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



Elysiume posted:

The website is eye-searing yellow and comic sans MS. This person should not be allowed to design websites or anything ever.

Jesus gently caress. Is there a Not Eye Safe a thing yet because if not this should be the prime example.

cyberia
Jun 24, 2011

Do not call me that!
Snuffles was my slave name.
You shall now call me Snowball; because my fur is pretty and white.
After goons had so much success funding Doobie and his hotdogs do we not owe it to the world to also fund Doobsie? A kickstarter for a blackboard shaped like a laptop with a pitch written by someone who is either brain-damaged or high because it makes no goddamned sense.

Also, let's make our own game store with hookers! And blackjack! Down with big gaming!

tlarn
Mar 1, 2013

You see,
God doesn't help little frogs.

He helps people like me.
Holding cups that are shaped in a cone for the express purpose of making them easier to grip is too hard, how about a 3D-printed solution that only works with dollar-store party cups?



:frogc00l: Yeah.

While you're knocking back a cold one with your flimsy piece-of-3D-printed-poo poo handle, why don't you take some time out of your day to read some nerd's self-published memoirs about being a loser in college?

A Better Person posted:

This is not a romantic book, not a love story. This is a book about flailing around and self-hatred; this is a story about finding and losing friend after friend, relationship after relationship, home after home. I'd like to imagine that "A Better Person" is roughly what would happen if you took Stephen Chbosky's "The Perks of Being a Wallflower," got rid of all the naiveté and the wide-eyed sense of discovery and replaced it with depression and an always-increasing sense of loneliness, and moved the focus from high school to college. Cheery, right?

poo poo, you spilled your beer all over yourself. That's cool, though. While you clean up, you remember that IndieGogo project for Beast's Fury? Fighting game with animalpeople, got $21,000? Apparently that's not enough to make a fully fleshed-out fighting game, so they're back on Kickstarter, asking for $45,000 to keep their project going by hiring more animators. Also, this funding is just to finish the demo with the two characters; the stretch goals are for more characters.

In the realm of Actually Good Kickstarters, though, there is the Don't Hug Me I'm Scared series, didn't know it was going until I was looking through whatever recently launched. :toot:

HJE-Cobra
Jul 15, 2007

Bear Witness

Hell Gem

tlarn posted:

poo poo, you spilled your beer all over yourself. That's cool, though. While you clean up, you remember that IndieGogo project for Beast's Fury? Fighting game with animalpeople, got $21,000? Apparently that's not enough to make a fully fleshed-out fighting game, so they're back on Kickstarter, asking for $45,000 to keep their project going by hiring more animators. Also, this funding is just to finish the demo with the two characters; the stretch goals are for more characters.

Haha, of course the anthropomorphic female kangaroo(?) with a low-cut shirt is the top stretch goal at $105,000. Gotta try to get all the money you can outta those furries!

FirstAidKite
Nov 8, 2009

tlarn posted:

poo poo, you spilled your beer all over yourself. That's cool, though. While you clean up, you remember that IndieGogo project for Beast's Fury? Fighting game with animalpeople, got $21,000? Apparently that's not enough to make a fully fleshed-out fighting game, so they're back on Kickstarter, asking for $45,000 to keep their project going by hiring more animators. Also, this funding is just to finish the demo with the two characters; the stretch goals are for more characters.

That shark is pretty bitchin

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Why the hell does the first dude have a completely different notation style?

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



Pomp posted:

Why the hell does the first dude have a completely different notation style?

Restructuring the notation is another stretch goal.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

tlarn posted:

While you're knocking back a cold one with your flimsy piece-of-3D-printed-poo poo handle, why don't you take some time out of your day to read some nerd's self-published memoirs about being a loser in college?

Are these people who make kickstarters for novels not aware of Amazon self-publishing, or is it really just a shameless money grab?

waah
Jun 20, 2011

Better stay in line when
You see a Pavel like me shinin

Well, looking at things in my city...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/75367514/buffalo-juggalos?ref=discovery

quote:

BUFFALO JUGGALOS
by Scott Cummings

An experimental exploration of the Juggalo subculture in Buffalo, New York. Read more

Wat?

quote:

Wouldn't it be great if I made an experimental film with Juggalos?" passed through my head as I enjoyed a rather opaque film at the New York Film Festival.

Wat?

quote:

I quit my job at the Criterion Collection and moved back to Buffalo in July of 2013. I started living on my father's boat and cold-contacting Juggalos via facebook. I failed miserably. I met only two people in over a month. Things went nowhere. I was in total despair and ready to leave. The project had failed . Luckily for me, one of the two Juggalos I met, Jeremy/Polmar, hosts a radio show and facebook page. He posted a link to the film and it got a few "likes." In a last-ditch attempt, I contacted those people.

Enter Jonny Blaze.

 I met Jonny in a park in downtown Buffalo and we immediately connected - we had an easy rapport, and we quickly found common ground between us. Jon told me of a local Juggalo house called Hatchet House and all the craziness that happens there. He called me that night at 1am (as he always does) and invited me over, to a neighborhood I'd never been to, never even heard of, called, ominously, "The Valley".

You quit your job to follow juggalos and the person who kept you from becoming a failure was a grown man other than Method Man who calls himself Jonny Blaze with a straight face? :psypop:

quote:

I wanted the film to be like an artifact from a lost civilization - like finding a VHS tape on the side of the road intercut with a slasher movie, porn, Paul McCarthy's Heidi, and backyard wrestling. Everyone in the film is a Juggalo unless noted. All non-Juggalos are Juggalo-affiliated. I would say with much confidence that it is the first film like this that has been made with Juggalos.




Well gee what will the funds be used for

quote:

3. Paying a few outstanding location fees before I get my legs broken

5. FESTIVAL FEES / some travel for myself and key crew

6. FESTIVAL TRAVEL - BUFFALO JUGGALOS has been invited to several festivals already, several of which are top-tier US and international festivals. I will bring several Juggalos involved in the film to either the US premiere or one of our upcoming (but as of now confidential) screenings. It is very important to me that they see the film in a proper theater. I will not buy them beer, however.

Tour the festival circuit. Bring the Carnival along. Meet the Insane Clown Posse. Next year release the film for sale. Release a print version of the photos and interviews. Finally, release the film as a DVD-r into the Juggalo world for widespread and totally sanctioned bootlegging.

waah has a new favorite as of 06:16 on May 21, 2014

...of SCIENCE!
Apr 26, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

DStecks posted:

Are these people who make kickstarters for novels not aware of Amazon self-publishing, or is it really just a shameless money grab?

If you want a first-hand account of "successful" Kickstarter-funded self-publishing DukeRustfield's thread about his novel Hard Luck Hank: Screw The Galaxy is some delicious schadenfreude. The tl;dr is that he wasted a ton of money (like blowing $1,000 on an actual oil painting to use as the cover when everybody was telling him to just have it done digitally, and ending up having to commission a digital painting anyways since the oil painting was unusable) and even though he had a successful Kickstarter and got good sales by self-publishing standards he spent so much money on artists and copy editors and Kickstarter-related expenses like T-shirts and animators that he barely broke even.

DukeRustfield posted:

I thought it might be of some help to starving and not-starving artists if I gave a bit of my experiences over my three-year quest to get my novel, Hard Luck Hank: Screw the Galaxy, written and published. Along the way I hired, and sorta fired, a number of creative folks to help me realize my project.

I'll skip all the, "hey, I want to write a novel," stuff. I figured I would try Kickstarter. But I wanted more than just me begging. So I to make an animation movie.

Which you can see the finished version of here:

http://www.belvaille.com/movie.html

I put out ads on Craigslist here in LA. Which is when I learned about supply and demand. The voice actors, I had about, literally, 100 people respond within a few days. I was offering $50. For the animators, I had maybe 5 people respond. I was offering $2000. Or 2500, I can't remember. The voice actors were easy, they all had demos I could listen to. Those that didn't, I didn't bother with, there were too many others. So if you're looking to break into any field like that, be warned, there is an insane amount of competition and they are all very professional. I took my actors out to lunch and we went over the parts and I was happy with them. We saw Flea from the Red Hot Chilly Peppers walking his dog.

My animator turned out to be in the Philippines who happens to read the postings all across the world looking for animators. I was very worried about sending my 15% to him to start. If he just said "lolol, gently caress off" what was I going to do? He turned out to be great and super helpful. I really lucked out. Whatever you think of the animation, "I" liked it, and I was paying the bills. He made all the changes I asked for, which were not insignificant.

I found the audio editor by looking at trade sites online. I would email and ask rates and such. Some were very flaky. There are a lot of people who have a mac and a mic and say they are an audio studio. The guy I got was super professional and was really good all around. It's not easy choreographing all the parts and getting everything sounding decent. I basically sat on the couch with headphones on and said yes/no but he did all the time-management, which was great because I was paying by the hour. One thing I regret doing was only listening to playback on mega super great stereos. Because not everyone has that. A sound effect I put in goes horribly wrong on cheap speakers.

The Kickstarter was up and successful, but mostly just because of people I knew. I was not especially happy with the process. If you have a gigantic internal network (like you're a 5K friend cam girl), Kickstarter is great--but if you are a 5K friend cam girl, you don't need Kickstarter, just ask your 5K friends. I wanted to hopefully reach people I didn't know. But I didn't find it was especially good at that. All during my project I couldn't find my project during search. Or it was drat hard. They highlight the successful Kickstarters and even the successful, expired ones, over my dinky one. I used Google adwords to help push some people to it, but if I hadn't had free $ from opening my (crappy) website, I would have lost money for sure.

Then I needed a cover for my book. I wanted a painting. A real painting. Because I had grown up with the Frank Frazetta type stuff and I wanted a bit of a send-up of that. And I wanted to support an oil painter. I had a few artists get back to me but almost no one was interested in doing real paint. I was offering $1000 for the commission. Finally someone gave me a sample, I liked it, and sent him on his way.

OH, to interject, I got contracts from everyone. All the copyrights are mine in perpetuity etc etc. It's lame, but I just didn't want to be sued later if I put them on a t-shirt. And I'm wearing a t-shirt now with a character on it. I just found some boilerplate contracts online, changed "Joe's Dildo Factory" to my name.

So the painting is falling behind schedule and the artist didn't respond much. He was very much unlike my animator, who was always communicative. The final product was...not that great. But I was of the mind that I spent $1K and I was going to use it. I rolled it up and looked around about getting it photographed and turned into a proper cover (it was a large painting). I just did a web search for digital printing and photographing and sent some emails. I met the people, who were old pros, and they said they had to stretch the canvas. I left and they told me that there was a problem. The painting had not been allowed to dry properly and was now very wrinkled. They use a suction to hold the painting up and mash it flat, but even that couldn't erase the creases. They sent me a picture and I could see it was basically hopeless. I lost my deposit on the photograph. They said they would mail back the painting but never did. I crossed it off as a loss and said I was going to have to go to digital. The era of the painting is dead (cue the denials).

gently caress Craigslist. This was my cover. People/kids buy novels based on covers. I know I did. I searched around for pro artists who matched my style. Most were very expensive. I found an artist who had done covers for Heavy Metal magazine and concept art for games and tv shows. We went back and forth and emails. His first quote was $10,000!!!! I talked him down substantially. I am very happy with the art. He was advertised in the Cartoonist network, or something like that. I basically went through hundreds of artists and their samples of wildly different skill levels. Some pieces of advice, put up your best work, don't put up your "I drew this when I was 15." Unless you're 15.



After my novel was done, I needed a real copy editor. Cuz I iz bad engrish. Again, supply and demand. I was BEGGING people to edit my work. PLEASE TAKE MY MONEY! I was offering anywhere from $500-1000. I have never seen so many people who professed poverty turn down money. They wouldn't respond. When they did respond it was weeks later. Most said they were too busy. Maybe they just knew my novel was too sucky to bother with. But I finally got a copy edit. Again, this isn't even an edit for content/story it's just grammatical. I think I paid around $900. They were advertised in the US freelance editors guild or whatever. It was decent but not perfect. I personally edited it many more times afterwards and found a lot of corrections. I don't know how the Harry Potters of the world do this, they must have like 50 editors.

Using Gimp image editing software, I stole an image from my animation movie to use as the back cover, made a black spine with the title, put the cover on front. Then I put it up on Amazon. As I ported it over to Kindle and checked it out on Ipad/Iphone and various Kindle readers, I kept finding small formatting errors. Literally like one line or character. I would then I have to go back and correct all the versions and wait another 24 hours for approval.

It was an extremely long and difficult process, but using all my own money made me a lot more vested. I was cracking the whip. I felt like a studio exec telling directors to change their "vision." Well, yeah, it's my money.

I'm pretty tired, but happy I got it up. And if I die tomorrow...well, okay, that will still suck, but at least I got a novel.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1492974900/

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

...of SCIENCE! posted:

If you want a first-hand account of "successful" Kickstarter-funded self-publishing DukeRustfield's thread about his novel Hard Luck Hank: Screw The Galaxy is some delicious schadenfreude. The tl;dr is that he wasted a ton of money (like blowing $1,000 on an actual oil painting to use as the cover when everybody was telling him to just have it done digitally, and ending up having to commission a digital painting anyways since the oil painting was unusable) and even though he had a successful Kickstarter and got good sales by self-publishing standards he spent so much money on artists and copy editors and Kickstarter-related expenses like T-shirts and animators that he barely broke even.

Here's his Kickstarter page. It looks like he struggled to get any successful marketing or promotion going for it so if you're wondering how he managed to meet his $2,500 goal Kicktraq indicates that he got two $1000 pledges, two $250 pledges and a handful of people threw in $20/$25 for a copy of the book. I'm guessing those four main backers were family and friends so perhaps he could have just asked them directly rather than going to all that trouble. Of course he pretty much wasted that money on non-essential items so he could have just skipped all that altogether.
From reading the thread it sounds like he thought that creating the Kickstarter campaign and having a 5 minute youtube animation were types of marketing in themselves (or he though that Kickstarter LLC would promote his project for him, I'm not sure), although he did try a bunch of other things as well.

HOWEVER, after all that wasted effort and wasted money it turns out that he actually turned a profit in the end so I have to give him props for that.

Edit: he spent $2,500+ and months and months of effort in finding an animator and reviewing and meeting and hiring voice talent in order to create a youtube video which has barely been viewed 1000 times.

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DoctorTristan
Mar 11, 2006

I would look up into your lifeless eyes and wave, like this. Can you and your associates arrange that for me, Mr. Morden?

Way to promote your own dumbass kickstarter, dude.

Chaos Motor
Aug 29, 2003

by vyelkin
Don't be sore cuz I tricked you for the lulz.

PHIZ KALIFA
Dec 21, 2011

#mood
I was actually considering getting in on that but I refuse to give money to anyone who says "lulz", ironic or otherwise.

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Chaos Motor
Aug 29, 2003

by vyelkin
Welp too late now. Life is full of regrets for both of us I guess.

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