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Cerv posted:didn't the thread do rich fuckers in speedboats chat to death months ago? why repost an article from jan I heard the mother on the radio this morning not sure why today.
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Cerv posted:didn't the thread do rich fuckers in speedboats chat to death months ago? why repost an article from jan This week the chocolate ration has increased to 800g! We have always been at war with Rich Fuckers In Speed Boats. (it's still a good point about media bias though)
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DesperateDan posted:The fact that the mum rang sky news before she bothered the local police with her missing kid then and turned up to police interviews with a loving press officer, along with other stuff like aaar maddies dna and corpse scent being found in a car the parents rented weeks after her disappearance- I'm leaning towards the original investigators theory that the parents returned from a night on the piss to find their daughter died accidentally, panicked and hid the body, then moved it a few weeks later. Looked it up, its https://www.gov.uk/law-on-leaving-your-child-home-alone so its not technically illegal its a case by case judgement. That kid was like 5 or something right? Thats well wrong. My parents and their friends would leave us kids in the hotel on summer holidays once we were off to sleep to go down to the bar and whatever but we were 8/9 ish, there were 5 of us and they would come and check on us. Seaside Loafer fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Jun 20, 2014 08:46
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Kerbtree posted:Is your app site still horrible? Last time I used it, you wanted me to transcribe my CV in autistic levels of detail. That's why I stopped applying fit for NHS jobs. The NHS job website has had a major re-do in the last couple of months and it's not as bad anymore, only a sensible(ish) amount of sections. Plus there's actually the option to upload your CV now. From other people I've spoken to, does seem to be a reason why not many good people apply.
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Jun 20, 2014 08:59
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General China posted:Just to cheer you all up- very rich upper class family get cut up and die Firstly, you're a massive dick. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Secondly, they're not upper class.
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Jun 20, 2014 09:25
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Kegluneq posted:
"Unemployed dad on benefits kills self, daughter, in reckless drink-driving stunt!" On other pages: "How YOU pay for this scrounger's booze and fags!" "4 kids and a council house... all at the expense of the taxpayer!" "Comment section: Why this squalid tragedy proves that poor people should be prevented from having children in the 1st place."
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Jun 20, 2014 09:57
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Also, guess which newspaper I just found THIS headline in!quote:Is this what would happen if cannabis was legal in Britain? Suicides, killings and toddlers in hospital with overdoses - TOM LEONARD visits Colorado, where marijuana has just been legalised  
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Jun 20, 2014 10:04
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Seaside Loafer posted:Even if the parents are on the level isnt it technically illegal to leave a child under 12 unattended? you are aware that you're looking at the wrong jurisdiction for this case?
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Jun 20, 2014 10:07
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General China posted:Just to cheer you all up- very rich upper class family get cut up and die What the gently caress is wrong with you?
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Jun 20, 2014 10:11
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Umiapik posted:Also, guess which newspaper I just found THIS headline in! What the absolute gently caress? The situation there has been nothing but good I thought? Has anything bad happened at all as a result of legalisation?
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Jun 20, 2014 10:17
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Pissflaps posted:I heard the mother on the radio this morning not sure why today. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-27932418 sadly seems she's still in the denial stage a bit quote:"My husband was hugely safety conscious," she said.
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Jun 20, 2014 10:18
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tentish klown posted:Firstly, you're a massive dick. I wouldn't wish this on anyone. Secondly, they're not upper class. Yeh this, Its not a loving mutually exclusive thing. I find it sad that a whole loving family have died, including kids. I also find it sad that Madeleine was snatched away on holiday. Surprisingly, I also find it sad when things happen to working class people because I don't revel in this stupid loving "us vs them" argument.
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Saki posted:What the gently caress is wrong with you? I don't agree with "hooray some kids died in an horrific accident" but GC is absolutely right that if this was an unemployed bloke joyriding, who killed half his family because they didn't wear seatbelts and he was driving like a loon, you wouldn't be seeing nice heartfelt sympathetic campaigns featuring one of the survivors imploring people to belt up a few months later surrounded by heaps of sympathetic coverage. The disparity is pretty sickening and it really highlights what an amazing hatchet job the press have done on the poor and disadvantaged.
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Loonytoad Quack posted:I don't agree with "hooray some kids died in an horrific accident" but GC is absolutely right that if this was an unemployed bloke joyriding, who killed half his family because they didn't wear seatbelts and he was driving like a loon, you wouldn't be seeing nice heartfelt sympathetic campaigns featuring one of the survivors imploring people to belt up a few months later surrounded by heaps of sympathetic coverage. Pretty much this. It's completely possible to be pissed off with the coverage in general, while simultaneously being sad that lives have been lost.
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Yeah the media are awful and all, but that's no excuse to act gleeful about a family tragedy.
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thehustler posted:What the absolute gently caress? The situation there has been nothing but good I thought? Has anything bad happened at all as a result of legalisation? Anything bad that happens there will be blamed on weed for a year or two by some people I expect
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Phoon posted:Anything bad that happens there will be blamed on weed for a year or two by some people I expect I can remember back around '98-00 the prospects for de-crim were reasonable, Labour moved it to class C, use of it among teens dropped, then the tabloid machine just started straight up fabricating poo poo, and running with the it CAUSES mental illnesses schtick. It largely stayed the same for ages, only in the last few months have I seen the occasional reference to "well, all these other places have sensible drug laws and less harm, maybe we should look at them again". Out roll the tabloids again, and may the lord have mercy on our bongs. Countdown to another "FATAL MARIJUANA OVERDOSE" or "MY TEENAGE SONS PERSONALITY CHANGED DURING PUBERTY- IT MUST BE THE DRUGS!" story.
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Saki posted:Yeah the media are awful and all, but that's no excuse to act gleeful about a family tragedy. That's just General China I think. But now he lives on a country estate so hopefully he falls off his ride-on lawn mower.
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I think this might be worth a glance. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/20/britain-furst-the-halal-ray-ban-wearing-far-right-facebook-mockers
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I worry about General China. I hope he managed to get his garlic eating pheasant problem under control.
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Seaside Loafer posted:Even if the parents are on the level isnt it technically illegal to leave a child under 12 unattended? I had quite a discussion with a friend about this, who said her parents used to leave her and her siblings, cousins etc in their room and check on them, but once again there were a bunch of them of varying ages. I think that at best, the McCanns were irresponsible. They had the option of a child minder, but instead left their five-year-old and infant twins alone in a hotel room, while they went to the other side of the resort for dinner, having given the kids some kind of medication to make them sleep. That is just so wtf. You don't leave little kids unattended. Incidentally, I used to work with one of the people who ran the "Maddie" campaign. I don't know how much she charged them, and she was very nice, so it might have been reduced/pro-bono, but by the time she was working with me, she was on £40k+. And yeah, I've thought for a long time that she died in an accident, although obviously I've no evidence, which is a phrase that pretty much sums up the whole case!
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General China posted:My point exactly- either Maddy is winning the biggest game of hide and seek ever or the media, police and establishment value middleclass children over workingclass children. It's the tabloids and their predominantly working class readership that are keeping the Maddie story alive. You won't find it making GBS threads up the front page of the Times or the Telegraph every five minutes. The police and politicians have to go through the motions because of ARE MADDIE but I doubt they would give it half the attention they do if it weren't for tabloid pressure. It's not getting coverage because of any undue class influence - it's getting coverage because she's a cute blonde toddler girl and people keep buying papers with her story on the front page. Besides, her parents may have both been doctors, but they both went to state schools - one grammar, one comprehensive and then the Universities of Glasgow and Dundee - it doesn't sound as if they're coming from the ranks of the filthy rich and privileged and would have a batphone to "the establishment". Prince John fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Cerv posted:oh, the mother's doing a charity drive now
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Speedboatchat is a lot like boatchat except it turns to poo poo a lot faster
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Phoon posted:Anything bad that happens there will be blamed on weed for a year or two by some people I expect Pretty much. (not that anyone should be driving while intoxicated in the first place)
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Prince John posted:It's the tabloids and their predominantly working class readership that are keeping the Maddie story alive. You won't find it making GBS threads up the front page of the Times or the Telegraph every five minutes. Also people love child abuse stories for some reason, misery memoirs are really popular and with the added mystery of no one not really knowing what the hell happened to the poor girl they can fill in the blanks. schadenfraud posted:I had quite a discussion with a friend about this, who said her parents used to leave her and her siblings, cousins etc in their room and check on them, but once again there were a bunch of them of varying ages. My mum said the same, she used to leave us alone in the flat when her and dad went to dinner parties in other peoples flats. It's like people that used to leave their babies in prams outside cafes for an hour and never thought twice about it. It's definitely true though that if it was a single mum leaving her kids while she went to a pub even if all the other details were the same (distance, time, how often they checked) there would have been a much bigger outcry.
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hookerbot 5000 posted:Also people love child abuse stories for some reason, misery memoirs are really popular and with the added mystery of no one not really knowing what the hell happened to the poor girl they can fill in the blanks. I swear, my local Waterstones used to have a subsection in 'Biographies' that they'd called "Painful Lives". It was literally hundreds of Dave Pelzer knockoffs, all laying bare (in gruesome and pornographic detail) the author's utterly miserable upbringings. I mean, if you've had that sort of life, I can sort of understand writing about it as a way of coming to terms with it but I can't fathom why that sort of book's so popular with the public.
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That was one of the many things that utterly mystified me about my ex-girlfriend, she'd read these harrowing novels and auto-biographies about people who'd had the very worst things happen to them along with watching those stupid pet rescue programmes that feature tortured or abandoned animals. She'd deliberately and intentionally go out of her way to make herself upset. For fun. People are weird, man.
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It's the only kind of book my mother and father in law will read, unless there's a little kid chained up in a basement being horrifically beaten and raped they're not interested. The real irony is that my husband had the worst upbringing of all the people I know - having to watch his mum get beaten up by his step dad every night and several cross country midnight flits to get away from him, living in a shed next to the dump for a few months and his dad trying to commit suicide in front of him and his little sister when he was about 6. Running away from landlords and his dad getting chased out of peoples gardens for nicking stuff. Then getting older and when he got a part time job at 14 having to give all his money to his mum to pay the stepdads court fines so he could come home and beat them up some more. But they think they're great parents - like anyone they had rough times but they always did the best for their kids not like those monsters with the rape basements. Maybe that's why they're so popular - they make people feel better about the stuff they do.
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I just want to thank everyone for their replies to my rather abrupt and off topic query. Thanks UKMT! 
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Plenty of people love reading E/N on SA and that's also a similar kind of thing.
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I would guess it's simple to be able to remind yourself however poo poo you think your life is, someone else has it much worse. Its why I read E/N at least.
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Looks like the shenanigans that kept delaying the recent Tower Hamlets election results are going before the courts. The Spectator has an eyewitness account of the difficulties at the recount from a Conservative councillor. Apparently the Electoral Commission had already made sure that police officers were deployed to all 125 polling stations in the borough due to the risk of fraud, so it will be interesting to see if voter intimidation was still proceeding even with the police presence and what else could be done to prevent it for future counts. vvv Edit: Not excusing the comment, but she is really irritating. Prince John fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Michael Fabricant really is a horrible little man. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-27939653 quote:MP Michael Fabricant apologises for 'punch journalist' joke
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thehustler posted:Michael Fabricant really is a horrible little man. Why isn't he being prosecuted?
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Because it was obviously a flippant comment?
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HortonNash posted:Why isn't he being prosecuted? For what criminal offence? It's just a bad attempt at humour. He hasn't threatened her.
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Umiapik posted:I swear, my local Waterstones used to have a subsection in 'Biographies' that they'd called "Painful Lives". It was literally hundreds of Dave Pelzer knockoffs, all laying bare (in gruesome and pornographic detail) the author's utterly miserable upbringings. I mean, if you've had that sort of life, I can sort of understand writing about it as a way of coming to terms with it but I can't fathom why that sort of book's so popular with the public. Spoilered for blatant triggers    Life! Death! Prizes! just about sums it up really. Sounds like one of those dystopian future gameshows. It's the smiley faces beaming out of all this that really get me
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Umiapik posted:I swear, my local Waterstones used to have a subsection in 'Biographies' that they'd called "Painful Lives". It was literally hundreds of Dave Pelzer knockoffs, all laying bare (in gruesome and pornographic detail) the author's utterly miserable upbringings. I mean, if you've had that sort of life, I can sort of understand writing about it as a way of coming to terms with it but I can't fathom why that sort of book's so popular with the public. A comedian who I can't remember the name of once said magazines like a hello and OK are for casual psychopaths because of the completely radical tone difference even on a single page. Like, a picture of a happy smiling person on the cover with I WAS FORCED TO EAT MY LEGS TO SURVIVE as one of the main stories.
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HortonNash posted:Why isn't he being prosecuted? Because he is an MP and she is a Muslim woman and you can get away with saying that to her. Now if she was a billionaire author and he was a twitter nobody then this would be far more serious even and police would intervene.
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