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You guys are forgetting the biggest buff to Orks: Access to Hammerhand
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SRM posted:Well, right now people are just spitballing in the thread. Some people like MOBA ideas, the rest of us pray the series doesn't go down that route into a stupidly crowded market of samey games. I thought so too, but I've since been informed that GW did not continue the 40k licence with Relic under Sega despite their best attempts, and instead are farming it out for a bunch of terrible shovelware for mobile. Sega only has the Fantasy license. Best hope for that unannounced title is for Homeworld 3, where we pretend the dismal story from Homeworld 2 never happened. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jun 26, 2014 |
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Jun 26, 2014 20:36
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Raphus C posted:The codex seems to have lost a lot of flavour but rules wise it ain't much to cry about. I always would Flat Out turn 1, then turn 2 disembark with the passengers to let the wagon charge on. As for trukks, there was always the debate about trukkboyz vs. stormboyz; with Ramshackle gone and a point cost reduction for stormboyz, I feel the matter is pretty well settled.
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Jun 26, 2014 20:36
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Well, that is all depressing about the state of the game. However: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dF3El3OnGCk Let's be honest, it's going to the best computer game over the next few years.
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Jun 26, 2014 20:43
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I'm not experienced in Forgeworld stuff, can someone tell me what book I need for the Dreadmob rules?
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Jun 26, 2014 20:49
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If DOW3 is currently in development and they are making it more like a MOBA/MOMA/BOBBA/FOFA/WHATFUCKINGEVER it's a bad decision, since by the time its release there are going to be a dozen of those kinds of games. That style of game is the current AAA fad and its going to bloom over the next few years.Boon posted:Well, that is all depressing about the state of the game. However: Do you like civ? Do you like space? Do you like civ in space? Then yes, the game owns.
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Jun 26, 2014 20:52
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NTRabbit posted:Best hope for that unannounced title is for Homeworld 3, where we pretend the dismal story from Homeworld 2 never happened. Gearbox owns homeworld.
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Jun 26, 2014 20:58
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Saalkin posted:Gearbox owns homeworld.  Then hopefully they're goin back to what made Homeworld, Company of Heroes and Dawn of War 1 & 2 great, forgetting the lovely writing, cold war propaganda, dodgy gameplay and DLC mania that made Homeworld 2 and Company of Heroes 2 so bad, and making a wonderful new IP for us 
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Jun 26, 2014 21:05
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MasterSlowPoke posted:You guys are forgetting the biggest buff to Orks: ftfy DO IT TO IT posted:I'm not experienced in Forgeworld stuff, can someone tell me what book I need for the Dreadmob rules? http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/d/Dred_Mob.pdf Indolent Bastard fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Jun 26, 2014 |
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Jun 26, 2014 21:15
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Orks!   
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Jun 26, 2014 21:15
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Those are some cool orks. I like orks.
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Jun 26, 2014 22:04
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TheChirurgeon posted:I too have been painting mans during the forum downtime. You are the inspiration behind my small crimson fists force. I only hope my barbies look half as awesome as your barbies.
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Jun 26, 2014 22:37
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Warhammer 40k 7th Edition- I hope my barbies look as awesome as your barbies
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Jun 26, 2014 22:51
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koreban posted:You are the inspiration behind my small crimson fists force. I only hope my barbies look half as awesome as your barbies.
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Jun 26, 2014 22:52
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SRM posted:Crimson Fists are my favorite chapter, right up there with Ultras. Do you have any pictures of them? I'll be posting my stormraven and stormtalon in the oath thread this weekend. Next oath will be some 90s era tacticals and probably Pedro, who just arrived yesterday.
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Jun 26, 2014 23:02
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SRM posted:Crimson Fists are my favorite chapter Mine too, har, har, har! 
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Jun 26, 2014 23:05
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BULBASAUR posted:If DOW3 is currently in development and they are making it more like a MOBA/MOMA/BOBBA/FOFA/WHATFUCKINGEVER it's a bad decision, since by the time its release there are going to be a dozen of those kinds of games. That style of game is the current AAA fad and its going to bloom over the next few years. Has there ever really been a 40k computer game that was the one to play if you weren't already a fan of the license, though? As far as I'm aware there have been better/more mainstream RTSes and shooters at any time that the 40k ones have been on the market. As long as they keep their expectations in line, a 40k MOBA could defend its own niche.
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Jun 26, 2014 23:10
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When the original Dawn of War came out, which was a resounding success, Starcraft was years old. That was probably its closest direct competitor at the time.
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Jun 26, 2014 23:12
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JerryLee posted:Has there ever really been a 40k computer game that was the one to play if you weren't already a fan of the license, though? As far as I'm aware there have been better/more mainstream RTSes and shooters at any time that the 40k ones have been on the market. As long as they keep their expectations in line, a 40k MOBA could defend its own niche. I would argue Dawn of War I stood on it's own. Darn of War II is great, but relic already has Company of Heroes out which was much better (IMO).
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Jun 26, 2014 23:14
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JerryLee posted:Has there ever really been a 40k computer game that was the one to play if you weren't already a fan of the license, though? As far as I'm aware there have been better/more mainstream RTSes and shooters at any time that the 40k ones have been on the market. As long as they keep their expectations in line, a 40k MOBA could defend its own niche. I thoroughly enjoyed spacemarine, having little to no exposure to 40k proper prior to playing it.
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Jun 26, 2014 23:15
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Dawn of War was essentially my first exposure to 40k, it was an excellent RTS and it's why I'm here now
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Jun 26, 2014 23:17
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I am trying to put together some lists for Orks but without the final bits of information it is not quite tied down yet. I am thinking bikes over stormboys? Each got ~25% point reduction but the good guns on the bikes plus T5 4+ is probably why stormboys will sit out again for me. Wyverns and thunderfires will just make stormboys weep.... And think about taking 30 loving dangerous terrain tests at the top of turn one. I would have to do it separately since I am a horrible person and ~it matters~.
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Jun 26, 2014 23:24
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will blow your mind.
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Now that shootaz are an upgrade, are people thinking cheap sluggaz will be the superior choice? I'm building boyz atm. Although probably the best option is to just go 50/50 model-wise and run all the boyz in the army as one or the other until I have enough for full mobs of whichever.
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Jun 26, 2014 23:36
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WhiteOutMouse posted:I am thinking bikes over stormboys? 15 bikes with a painboy and a Warboss on bikes seem nice. If they turbo boost there will be plenty of 3+ cover save wounds to deal with at T5. If they then get to shoot and charge in. I would take some Buggies because you should always have buggies. There is a new Mad Max film apparently so think of them as a tribute. Then take some manz/boyz in trukks. Go full speadfreak. It feels good.
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Jun 26, 2014 23:38
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Hey hams, I just posted a thread in SAmart with some Imperial Guard, Chaos SM, Ork stuff along with some paint. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3645870
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Jun 26, 2014 23:41
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koreban posted:I'll be posting my stormraven and stormtalon in the oath thread this weekend. Next oath will be some 90s era tacticals and probably Pedro, who just arrived yesterday. JerryLee posted:Has there ever really been a 40k computer game that was the one to play if you weren't already a fan of the license, though? As far as I'm aware there have been better/more mainstream RTSes and shooters at any time that the 40k ones have been on the market. As long as they keep their expectations in line, a 40k MOBA could defend its own niche. I've painted up a combat squad of Scouts with sniper rifles. These models are leagues better than the plastics, even if the poses are kinda limited. The sergeant has the little red skull on his Ultima, and the squad is the first in the 10th company. I'll need to go back and add squad markings to my other Scouts later:       
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Jun 27, 2014 00:19
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JerryLee posted:Has there ever really been a 40k computer game that was the one to play if you weren't already a fan of the license, though? As far as I'm aware there have been better/more mainstream RTSes and shooters at any time that the 40k ones have been on the market. As long as they keep their expectations in line, a 40k MOBA could defend its own niche. Sorry if it was worded bad, I'm just saying market over-saturation, not necessarily the IP, will hurt it. They are going to be fighting against 2-3 large MOBA/MOMA/WHATEVER companies that have millions of users, already make tons of money, and set the standards for those genres. Not to mention that, being the latest AAA trend, you can expect lots of other games to be in that area too. I really wish GW could hand their IP to some competent companies, sans Relic.
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Jun 27, 2014 00:57
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I just want a 40k game with a real budget again, like really bad.
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Jun 27, 2014 00:59
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BULBASAUR posted:Sorry if it was worded bad, I'm just saying market over-saturation, not necessarily the IP, will hurt it. They are going to be fighting against 2-3 large MOBA/MOMA/WHATEVER companies that have millions of users, already make tons of money, and set the standards for those genres. Not to mention that, being the latest AAA trend, you can expect lots of other games to be in that area too.
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Jun 27, 2014 01:19
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koreban posted:You are the inspiration behind my small crimson fists force. I only hope my barbies look half as awesome as your barbies. Hey thanks! I'm actually working on a step-by-step "how to" for my White Panthers atm that I'll post soon. SRM posted:Looking forward to them! These are awesome. That kneeling metal sniper scout is one of my all-time favorite GW models, along with the scout that has the "Geordi" visor.
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Jun 27, 2014 01:24
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JerryLee posted:Eh, also, other people pointed out that I may have perceived things incorrectly in terms of past game markets.. I still think that in 2014 a 40k game is going to succeed on the strength of the license, even if part of that is bringing new people to the license. I hate to agree with GW on something but there really is no competition for the 40k universe, for those to whom it specifically appeals. http://www.warhammeronline.com/ No matter how good your IP, a lovely looking game is a lovely game. Imagine what they could do with a lot more money and a blockbuster team?
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Jun 27, 2014 02:13
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For those who requested it here is the mob rule.
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Jun 27, 2014 02:44
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Pierzak posted:Just auto-censor any insults into fluff-appropriate equivalents. "Remove yourself from my sight, xeno scum! Lest you meet the wrath of the immortal God-Emperor!" Lord Twisted posted:All of this MMO shite for 40K is just ridiculous. 
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Jun 27, 2014 03:03
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By [not really all that] popular demand, here's a how-to guide on how I paint my white panthers, including how I do the white. 1. It all starts with a coat of black primer. I prime on the sprues, because it's way easier to get coverage that way. Then I cut the pieces out, clean them, and assemble. I'll use black paint to go over any exposed plastic at this point, and I'll paint the actual "black" parts of the model, such as the thighs, at this point.  2. The next step is a coat of Reaper Miniature's Snow Shadow. I don't love all the Reaper paints, but I do use a couple of the off-whites here because they come in droppers and have colors that for some reason Games Workshop no longer produces. The first layer here is basically the old Space Wolf Grey color, which is kind of a very light pale blue. I usually coat this twice to get good coverage on the parts that will eventually be white. The picture below is from a single coat.  3. Once I've double-coated, I usually paint the chest emblem. That means a layer of Averland Sunset, being careful to leave the lines between "feathers."  I'm usually also working with the arms as I go, but I'm only covering the body here. I almost always paint the torso/head/legs and arms/backpack before assembly, otherwise you miss big chunks on the inside of arms/weapons and it looks awful. This dude's gonna have a Lascannon when I'm done.  4. Next comes the red. Here I'm using Mephiston Red to do the wax on the purity seal, the eyes, and the belt crystal.  5. Then I'm gonna hit those red spots with some Carroburg Crimson in the upper corners to create some shading for crystals, and I hit the chest emblem with Agrax Earthshade. If I weren't dedicated to bright-rear end yellow chest emblems, I might consider stopping here or just adding highlights to the chest emblem. But I'm pretty retarded so there will be more. I also add Leadbelcher to the joints, Piping, and Metal bits and wash that with Nuln Oil.  6. Next comes the "white." I'm actually using a Reaper color called "Ghost White" which is a bluish offwhite shade. The GW equivalent was "Ghostly White," which they no longer make (or have an analogue shade to). I use two coats of Ghost White to create the white on my White Panthers. It goes on easier than the whites, but if I want to get fancy about shading, I'll mix Ghost White with Snow Shadow for shading and White Scar for highlights. As-is, they basically look white, even up close in person. Also fabulous.  7. I gemstone up some chunks of red by painting black dots in the upper corners and then adding a small white dot. I overdid it a bit on the belt gemstone. 8. Next I take a small brush (either 5/0 or 10/0) and paint the chest emblem with Flash Gitz Yellow. I also paint the purity seal with screaming skull, then I wash it with Agrax Earthshade.  9. I hit the purity seal with a little more Screaming Skull to highlight, and add highlights around the edges of the black parts using Mechanicus Standard Grey.  10. Last but not least, I use a black Micron .005 pen to do the black lines on the purity seals. Way easier than trying to use a brush.  And that's about it (still have a couple of touch-ups/fixes to make). Total time: roughly 2.5 hours, when I'm not stopping to take photos after every step. Next up I'll paint the lascannon and backpack, glue those on, add finishing touches, then paint the base with Astrogranite texture paint and drybrush that with a lighter grey. Then it's on to the next mans. TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jun 27, 2014 |
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Jun 27, 2014 03:58
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Pierzak posted:Just auto-censor any insults into fluff-appropriate equivalents. If you use a single flagged word it just replaces your entire message with "Show me what passes for fury among your misbegotten kind!" "Oi, we is gonna crump you" Or some alien characters/roaring noises
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Jun 27, 2014 06:31
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Thanks for sharing how you paint your White Panthers! It's always fascinating to see how other people do it.TheChirurgeon posted:These are awesome. That kneeling metal sniper scout is one of my all-time favorite GW models, along with the scout that has the "Geordi" visor.  The metal scouts beat the pants off the plastics, it's ridiculous.
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Jun 27, 2014 06:36
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SRM posted:Thanks for sharing how you paint your White Panthers! It's always fascinating to see how other people do it. Back in the 2nd edition days I converted a whole pile of SM scouts into genestealer hybrids in carapace armour. Gosh I loved that army.
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Jun 27, 2014 06:59
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Homeworld 2 was bad? I loved that game.
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Jun 27, 2014 12:55
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Raphus C posted:15 bikes with a painboy and a Warboss on bikes seem nice. If they turbo boost there will be plenty of 3+ cover save wounds to deal with at T5. If they then get to shoot and charge in. Few more thoughts on orks: Mob rule might not be so bad, even if you roll poo poo and get 6 hits that's only about two more wounds than previously, and the bosspole can hopefully avoid auto fail situations for <5-10 model squads which is actually better than before. Looks like Ork leaders can only have one relic at a time? Entry says: "A model can take one of the following" While the entry above for another category says "A model can take up to one of each of the following." Got to choose Da Lucky Stikk or Da Finkin Kap. Tough call to be honest. Does Cybork bodies do anything for units that have FNP? Is it like warpflame where it boosts FNP +1 then gives 6+ if there is none? Does Grotsnik have any rules that force him to move and attack nearest thing still? Does he have a specific warlord trait? This is what I am thinking currently for a list. Not every toy, but you know the old proverb...  Lootas + meks joyride in waggon and either sit still or say gently caress it and drive 12" a turn for side angles. What do mekboys come with now? Can they still be bought in a squad of lootas or only as HQ addons?
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ineptmule posted:Homeworld 2 was bad? I loved that game. Some of the gameplay was a great update on the original (the complete lack of an AI was a glaring downside), but the story was nonsensical and the writing itself was fanfic levels of hack. It was like night and day compared to the story in Homeworld.
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