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The new one is definitely the better of the two but they still look horribly generic. 
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turdriver posted:Here's a modern Mercedes vs a 2000's version: gosh, that's a tough one... 
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Neptr posted:That DB7 piece on Top Gear was one of the worst car reviews I've seen, watching Clarkson heap praise on an ugly, expensive bucket of Ford parts. They did a segment in the Isle of Man once and it featured an Aston. The Stig was testing various supercars and James said something like, "If it were the Aston" and Clarkson said "It would broken down already". I think his Aston love may be partly nationalistic. Or he's being paid to praise them.
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Jul 5, 2014 20:11
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Linedance posted:gosh, that's a tough one... I was going to say that the bottom Merc has taillights almost identical to an Accord coupe.
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Jul 5, 2014 20:17
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rscott posted:
I'll give you the E30 is a pretty sexy looking sportscar but it doesn't hold a candle to this:  Pretty much the perfect balance of boxiness and curves.
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Jul 5, 2014 20:48
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Mister Kingdom posted:They did a segment in the Isle of Man once and it featured an Aston. The Stig was testing various supercars and James said something like, "If it were the Aston" and Clarkson said "It would broken down already". I think his Aston love may be partly nationalistic. Or he's being paid to praise them. I think it's posted up for the sake of entertainment; he's the British counterpart of the Italian car freak who talks about passion and soul.
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      I'm not saying modern cars are ugly, per se, I'm saying that subtlety and restraint have become a lost art. What happened to the days when a well-heeled gentleman could purchase a vehicle only slightly different looking to a run-of-the-mill execumobile, but with a fire-breathing engine and uprated suspension and poo poo? Now everything has to have "Look at me! Look at me!" stamped on it in 70pt bold comic sans and it's just poo poo. Leave the screaming, outrageous styling to the true sportscars.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:28
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Nothing punctuates the point that the awesome styling of the '00s is dead better than Lexus...  But it's not even the expensive cars that are starting to look like poo poo these days, and you don't have to dig too far into the past to see it. This is a car you could still drive new off the lot just 2 years ago:   And this is its replacement:  
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Jul 5, 2014 23:47
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Neptr posted:That DB7 piece on Top Gear was one of the worst car reviews I've seen, watching Clarkson heap praise on an ugly, expensive bucket of Ford parts.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:51
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Tommychu posted:Nothing punctuates the point that the awesome styling of the '00s is dead better than Lexus... I work on those Koups every day. The old one is so much better looking in person. The new one just seems to bulge oddly toward you regardless of where you stand.
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Jul 5, 2014 23:57
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Yeah I used that as an example because I've been looking pretty closely at them, if my Toyota ever starts making GBS threads the bed or if it gets plowed into again a Koup will almost certainly be my next DD. I tried really hard to like the new ones but after looking one over in person the bulges really are awful to look at. They're not even bulgey in the endearing way that the first gen Rio was. The original Koup OTOH, was the first sub-$30k car to really get a 'whoa' out of me the first time I saw it.
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The downside being the original koup, even in six speed form, was tepid at best. The new one comes with a 1.6L turbo which is surprisingly fast. They're about a billion times nicer to drive, too. The TD cerato was a low-point for kia in handling and steering feel, the previous (very ugly) cerato was a lot nicer because it had IRS and hydraulically assisted steering. They seem to have figured out how to make EPS not suck now.
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Slavvy posted:I'm not saying modern cars are ugly, per se, I'm saying that subtlety and restraint have become a lost art. What happened to the days when a well-heeled gentleman could purchase a vehicle only slightly different looking to a run-of-the-mill execumobile, but with a fire-breathing engine and uprated suspension and poo poo? Now everything has to have "Look at me! Look at me!" stamped on it in 70pt bold comic sans and it's just poo poo. Leave the screaming, outrageous styling to the true sportscars. Volvo comes close; the S60 Polestar is fairly unassuming if you forego the 'rebel blue' paint.
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Slavvy posted:The downside being the original koup, even in six speed form, was tepid at best. The new one comes with a 1.6L turbo which is surprisingly fast. They're about a billion times nicer to drive, too. The TD cerato was a low-point for kia in handling and steering feel, the previous (very ugly) cerato was a lot nicer because it had IRS and hydraulically assisted steering. They seem to have figured out how to make EPS not suck now. I haven't driven either yet (I'm really bad at making car salesmen think I'm serious enough about buying for a test drive, and just asking for one doesn't seem to work either), but I'm driving a 2700 pound wagon (probably closer to 3000 when you consider it's got my fat rear end in it as well as all the poo poo I carry around) with a 1ZZ. We only got the TD with the 2.0 or 2.4 here, so it's got a minimum of 40 more hp than what I'm in now and the same weight. As long as they didn't gear it ridiculously tall I'd expect to see more pep in a straight line than I've got now. On the suspension end, I actually prefer the way a twist-beam rear end reacts to a corner versus IRS on a FWD. I'm leary on the whole early-EPS thing though, I suppose I'll have to just try it out the next time I see one on a used car lot?
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Jul 6, 2014 01:13
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One of the sexiest cars ever. Along with this: 
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Count Freebasie posted:One of the sexiest cars ever. Along with this: Hey fyi you posted a pic of a hideous Jag. Might want to double check the URL.
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revmoo posted:Hey fyi you posted a pic of a hideous Jag. Might want to double check the URL. You son of a bitch, how dare you.
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Count Freebasie posted:You son of a bitch, how dare you. he's right, the late '80s XJs look miles better than that heap of plastic
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That jag looks like straight garbage old person car; and not like "Jackie Stewart is old and would drive this now," old -- more like some retiree in Florida would have a vanity plate and chrome poo poo on it old. Alternatively, it would be unidentifiable in a Luby's parking lot on a weekday afternoon.
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Jul 6, 2014 03:18
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sadnessboner posted:Volvo comes close; the S60 Polestar is fairly unassuming if you're a loving monster and forego the 'rebel blue' paint. This couldn't stand uncorrected.
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Jul 6, 2014 03:27
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Sinestro posted:This couldn't stand uncorrected.
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Linedance posted:gosh, that's a tough one... Anyway, this is what I ment: 
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Jul 6, 2014 06:07
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Doesn't get much more accord looking than a c class coupe
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turdriver posted:That's a good point if the only context is the angle in that picture since anyone who has seen either vehicle in real life knows they look nothing alike. I'm sure I know what you meant, but I'm not sure what a picture of two cars that share absolutely zero design elements outside of 4 wheels and 2 doors is supposed to illustrate.  
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Count Freebasie posted:One of the sexiest cars ever. Along with this: 
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Slavvy posted:I'm not saying modern cars are ugly, per se, I'm saying that subtlety and restraint have become a lost art. What happened to the days when a well-heeled gentleman could purchase a vehicle only slightly different looking to a run-of-the-mill execumobile, but with a fire-breathing engine and uprated suspension and poo poo? Now everything has to have "Look at me! Look at me!" stamped on it in 70pt bold comic sans and it's just poo poo. Leave the screaming, outrageous styling to the true sportscars. Part of the problem is that rich people in China don't do "subtle". I've seen more chrome wrapped cars here then I care to remember including a chrome-pink G55 AMG.
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turdriver posted:Here's a modern Mercedes vs a 2000's version: Ah yes some of the most complexly surfaced cars ever to exist lack "form".
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Bape Culture posted:Ah yes some of the most complexly surfaced cars ever to exist lack "form". Yes, the larger form, not the surface texturing. It's boring af. Here's a celica having fun: 
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365 Nog Hogger posted:
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Jul 6, 2014 19:09
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The 2000s Quattroportes are pretty drat stunning.   It's a shame the replacement has lost some of that distinctiveness, but then again, they're probably better in every metric outside of appearance.
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A few days late, but 3 pics from Canada day:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bricklin_SV-1  
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As I posted in my Cappuccino thread, today was the Doncaster car show. Here are a few pictures I took, in no particular order. However, this first one shows what makes it such a great day: Anything interesting is allowed, so you get an R8 parked next to a Stanley steam car:  So on with the show!  Note: Let's play "Where's Cappo?". InitialDave's Suzuki is lurking somewhere in one of these photos. Who will be the first to find it? It's quite good at hiding...                                                                            Any UK goons able to make it should definitely add it to their annual calender.
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Jul 6, 2014 21:05
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I'm going to object to any PT cruiser that hasn't been destroyed in this thread.
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Jul 6, 2014 21:24
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I like that you object to that more than the  airbrushed Mitsubishi Shogun.
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nm posted:I'm going to object to any PT cruiser that hasn't been destroyed in this thread. I saw that and couldn't believe anyone outside of this country would be a PT enthusiast.
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InitialDave posted:
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Tekne posted:The 2000s Quattroportes are pretty drat stunning. You can't talk about QP's and not talk about the noises they make. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpzmrYjCaFA 
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Brigdh posted:Looks like its hiding behind the NSX 
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Either there are multiple of those steam cars chugging about or that chap was at Banbury the other weekend  I hope it did the 129 miles under its own steam
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Probably is, probably didn't! On the way home, I saw a few challenge trucks coming back from their weekend play, too:   
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