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The_Cack posted:I actually do learn some stuff from those videos because I don't play every game that comes out so when you see how prevalent the violence against women is it is pretty eye opening Guarantee you there's more violence towards men in video games. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I think about, oh, 90% of violence in games is directed at male, or male-like characters. Makes you think.
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Spanish Manlove posted:I'm pretty sure I'd have an aneurysm if I knew the exact number since I believe it to be $49M or something Last I saw it was at thirty five million dollars, scared to go look myself.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Guarantee you there's more violence towards men in video games. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I think about, oh, 90% of violence in games is directed at male, or male-like characters. Makes you think.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Guarantee you there's more violence towards men in video games. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I think about, oh, 90% of violence in games is directed at male, or male-like characters. Makes you think. this post is problematic mansplainin' n malegazin'
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Spanish Manlove posted:I'm pretty sure I'd have an aneurysm if I knew the exact number since I believe it to be $49M or something It's $52 million now lol
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Rad Tad posted:is benghazi better or worse than my uncle who works at nintendo and loves to jack it That Lemon Demon dude keeps calling this "Gamers Benghazi" as an insult. I'm confused about his logic, thinking of him all I remember is that helldump meltdown lol.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:Guarantee you there's more violence towards men in video games. In fact, I'd go so far as to say I think about, oh, 90% of violence in games is directed at male, or male-like characters. Makes you think. In Sleeping Dogs I beat an old Chinese woman. Threw her into the trunk, parked the car next to a hotdog stand, and blew up the hotdog stand vendors little propane tank killing a whole poo poo load of Chinese people and making the car explode. Prob a real situation that could happen to any woman walking the street.
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It's totally possible to have something be perfectly accessible all while still talking about wider, more complex issues. Even if in brief. Certainly, violence against women is not only common in popular media, but often sexualized. It can't hurt to explore more of why this is the case and connect it to larger social issues. I wasn't that unwilling to have a conversation about stuff when I was a freshman in college, if that's being used as the barometer here. Probably should also add that I was incredulous when gamers got angry over games journalism being a joke. Most "games journalists" are bad writers and their sites are often, and obviously, held afloat by being buddy-buddy with companies in the industry. It's a big circle, no shock there. Gamers are losers
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gently caress Kickstarter, gently caress Patreon. When all your income comes from making people on the internet care enough about you that they'll give you money the best way to do that is to be really loud and annoying so some people hate you and then other people love you.
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Didn't someone leak one of Anita's college presentation videos where she admits she didn't like videogames and never really played them or something, i remember the NOT A TRUE GAMER crowd acting like it was the piece of evidence that would destroy her. nothing happened so i dunno if it was even real or not, but people sure got really mad over it.
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Supernorn posted:It's $52 million now lol Also they took down the donation tracker bar so that they can always claim they just need a little more money.
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Hermetian posted:the best way to do that is to be really loud and annoying so some people hate you and then other people love you. I've got the first bit down to an art. Now if only I can get people to send me money.
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Spanish Manlove posted:I'm pretty sure I'd have an aneurysm if I knew the exact number since I believe it to be $49M or something It's closing in on $53 million.
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big duck equals goose posted:In Sleeping Dogs I beat an old Chinese woman. Threw her into the trunk, parked the car next to a hotdog stand, and blew up the hotdog stand vendors little propane tank killing a whole poo poo load of Chinese people and making the car explode. It's purely fictional, all Chinese women were killed in abortions years ago.
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BottledBodhisvata posted:No, this isn't some "true gamer" bullshit that you get from reddit, either, I just think it more than a bit suspicious that a woman makes a poo poo load of money to put forward a feminist critique off video games, releases her videos at an absolute snail's pace and makes no greater critiques besides "Boy, Damsels in Distress are kind of lame, why can't the damsels do stuff instead?" which is like...I dunno...just struck me as a little weak? Especially since she uses Peach and Zelda as examples--Peach, who has been playable in Mario games numerous times and Zelda, who is among the most powerful and important beings IN the Zelda universe, and... I thought the points she made about Zeldas rang true: Zelda can only have agency when disguised, not as a herself. While the reduction of agency in itself is not a problem, the pervasiveness of it, and the ways it continues to manifest makes video games tell women: the important women in this story are passive, while the men are active. The listing is important, as that is the quantification of how this message is common. I have not seen breaking bad, so I have no idea how Skyler is portrayed, but showing that there are legitimate ways of using lack of agency as a plot point does not render the structural argument (e.g. video game creators do not write stories well and resort to structural sexism) moot.
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big duck equals goose posted:In Sleeping Dogs I beat an old Chinese woman. Threw her into the trunk, parked the car next to a hotdog stand, and blew up the hotdog stand vendors little propane tank killing a whole poo poo load of Chinese people and making the car explode. https://www.patreon.com/oldchinesewoman
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Star Citizen $2,134,374 pledged of $500,000 34,397 backers Nah bro let's get back to being angry at snarkeezian for not making her videos as opposed to some dumb star wars clone that'll never be released 
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Supernorn posted:It's $52 million now lol wat
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how did this get 800 posts since yesterday. what are you guys even talking about
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Parallax Scroll posted:how did this get 800 posts since yesterday. what are you guys even talking about tumbleweed
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http://www.patreon.com/zoe She makes more than I do in a month working 50 hours a week protecting the woods while she sits on her rear end i am real mad it's a monthly payment
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NotAnArtist posted:Star Citizen star citizen gets poo poo on all the time wtf are you on about
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Destroying your hobby? Looks like it's time to get a new hobby. Come on, guys. Let's grab some Doritos, a 12 pack of Mountain Dew and do some knitting until 1am.
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I'm not really upset that Sarkeesian gets all that money, since projects with media coverage gets overfunded on kickstarter all the time, but I am pretty drat happy that the only thing I ever donated money to on kickstarter was a drama project.
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I can't wait for Star Citizen to reach the top ten best selling games of all time without actually shipping a single copy.
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NotAnArtist posted:Star Citizen You would think both of these people could get together and find harmony with each other on the fact that they love pissing away money on really terrible ideas.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Didn't someone leak one of Anita's college presentation videos where she admits she didn't like videogames and never really played them or something, i remember the NOT A TRUE GAMER crowd acting like it was the piece of evidence that would destroy her. nothing happened so i dunno if it was even real or not, but people sure got really mad over it. I think it was just her general lack of knowledge about the situations she was citing in her videos that gave it away and then she later admitted she wasn't into video games. The problem with using that against her is that it really doesn't matter if she plays games or not, I can still point out sexism on a TV show I don't watch based on a clip on YouTube, it works the same way for games. The problem is that she's trying to tell people who do know about these games why they are sexist and getting facts wrong, or over emphasizing a single scene from the game as if it is a repeated scenario. Because of that it's sort of like when CNN picks up on a viral video two weeks after it was popular and the reporter tries to sound like they are interested or knowledgeable about the thing.
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Abu Dave posted:http://www.patreon.com/zoe yeah but you got all that privilege this just helps even things out
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Azraelle posted:I thought the points she made about Zeldas rang true: Zelda can only have agency when disguised, not as a herself. While the reduction of agency in itself is not a problem, the pervasiveness of it, and the ways it continues to manifest makes video games tell women: the important women in this story are passive, while the men are active. The listing is important, as that is the quantification of how this message is common. I have not seen breaking bad, so I have no idea how Skyler is portrayed, but showing that there are legitimate ways of using lack of agency as a plot point does not render the structural argument (e.g. video game creators do not write stories well and resort to structural sexism) moot. Acceptable, and there's no arguing against the fact that Zelda was largely relegated to the role of every other primary female role in the 80's--be it your girlfriend or the princess or whatever. However, it is fair to also say that the portrayals of these Princesses have changed dramatically since those days--where a degree of simplicity was required by limitations of the hardware. There were games--like Metroid--who had active women characters too, and numerous games of the subsequent generation featured male or female characters you could choose from. And from Wind Waker onwards, Zelda herself has been a very active character in the game's events. It's just annoying to suggest that this is a problem pervasive in games, because it really isn't. There are LOADS of kick-rear end girl characters in games. Fighting game rosters tend to have fighters from both genders, as do racing games. Really, the biggest area of "men's club" gaming that I know to exist is in the realm of first-person shooters (and licensed sports games since nobody pays money to see the REAL WNBA, let alone play the fake computer version), and I would not be surprised if the vast majority of these toxic gamers who harass people and poo poo come from the CoD circles. And this is to say nothing of games where you can build your own character, and thus make a woman to your specifications who is just as able as male characters are. Lazyfire posted:I think it was just her general lack of knowledge about the situations she was citing in her videos that gave it away and then she later admitted she wasn't into video games. It matters in that she lied about it, and that now she, a non-gamer, is being asked by game developers to help them make their games. It'd be like if somebody made a commentary about how there's an issue of race in the NFL (why no Asians!?), but doesn't actually watch football or know anything about the game, and is then paid by the NFL to make a team (all Asians!) without any knowledge of what makes a functioning team. BottledBodhisvata fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Aug 28, 2014 |
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Hermetian posted:gently caress Kickstarter, gently caress Patreon. When all your income comes from making people on the internet care enough about you that they'll give you money the best way to do that is to be really loud and annoying so some people hate you and then other people love you.
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if SA someday randomly decides to fund someone's life for no reason whatsoever aside from irony I call dibs as the recipient me and doobs
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NotAnArtist posted:Star Citizen Two million one hundred thirty four thousand three hundred seventy four dollars
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Lazyfire posted:I think it was just her general lack of knowledge about the situations she was citing in her videos that gave it away and then she later admitted she wasn't into video games.
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I never gave a gently caress about the subject matter of sarkeesians poo poo but it's funny to me how she made 0.069565217391304starcitizens off of being harassed
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