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Lagomorphic
Apr 21, 2008

AKA: Orthonormal

CommissarMega posted:

But there are so many more Fed missions than Romulan ones :( Not that it's going to stop my plans to play a Rom this weekend, but it's still kind of disappointing.

Romulans have plenty of episodes to do, you can easily hit 50 running them even without the xp bonus event. All the high level episodes are cross-faction as well. Also like 20 of those fed episodes are the Cardassian arc that everyone sane skips in order to remain sane.

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wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
Now they just need to make [DMG] less worthless and maybe I'll feel good about this game again.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Wizard of the Deep posted:

I think it breaks pretty much even. Most of the later arcs are similar, if not exactly the same. If there's one you feel like you have to play, you can probably team up with a fed and run it.

Lagomorphic posted:

Romulans have plenty of episodes to do, you can easily hit 50 running them even without the xp bonus event. All the high level episodes are cross-faction as well. Also like 20 of those fed episodes are the Cardassian arc that everyone sane skips in order to remain sane.

Ah, okay then; that does make the Romulan arc sound a lot better. That being said though:

Conskill posted:

Think of it less as "missing out on more missions" and more "skipping over a lot of crap filler." The major story arcs these days are shared by all three factions.

I'll have you know that 'a lot of crap filler' is the very definition of Star Trek (at least, from what i can remember) :v:

Coq au Nandos
Nov 7, 2006

I think I would say to my daughters if they were to ask me this question... A shitpost is the greatest gift that you can give someone, the ultimate gift of giving and don't give it to someone lightly, that's what I would say.

Bremen posted:

Well, that just looks like the time for upgrades is going down, along with the dil cost to instant it. The time change is nice, but I imagine most people in this thread were just planning on starting the upgrades and going to bed, so it probably wont make a difference to the dil costs.

They're just finding a solution to an artificial problem, though. They'd win more goodwill by dropping the dil price for starting the upgrade.

AfroSquirrel
Sep 3, 2011

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7006273

To boldly render, and design uglier starships than ever before...

Seriously, what kind of a disaster is that?

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God
I actually kind of like the Dauntless' look. I'd want to see it in action first, but if the stats are good I might consider it for my T6 ship.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




AfroSquirrel posted:

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7006273

To boldly render, and design uglier starships than ever before...

Seriously, what kind of a disaster is that?

In cryptic's defence, a Canon one. And in the original designer's defense, it had to be a ship that could plausibly look Starfleet but actually be alien.

I quite like it. It's an awkward little thing but awkward in the right ways.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Sep 19, 2014

Dootman
Jun 15, 2000

fishbulb

AfroSquirrel posted:

http://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/7006273

To boldly render, and design uglier starships than ever before...

Seriously, what kind of a disaster is that?

This would have been a great opportunity to introduce 8 nacelle ships, especially if they are going to make it look like a squid anyway.

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

Dootman posted:

This would have been a great opportunity to introduce 8 nacelle ships, especially if they are going to make it look like a squid anyway.

Sadly, this was built and guided under the iron fists of cbs:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Dauntless_class

alfheimwanderer
Jun 1, 2011

Oh brave new world that hath such people in it...
Given everything I've been seeing about Delta Rising, should I just save up my dil for whatever ships and equipment comes out then? I know my fed is upgrading his fleet Armitage to T5U, and my klanks have the Chel Grett, but my Rom is using a mirror dhelan and I was thinking about what to get for him.

Lock Knight
Oct 5, 2012

You're gonna carry that weight.
Cybernetic Crumb
I tried to share the love of disco with the unwashed pubbie masses of DS9 zone chat, and this was the thanks I got:

http://pastebin.com/Q7yTa11Y

And they call me troll.

g0del
Jan 9, 2001



Fun Shoe

alfheimwanderer posted:

Given everything I've been seeing about Delta Rising, should I just save up my dil for whatever ships and equipment comes out then? I know my fed is upgrading his fleet Armitage to T5U, and my klanks have the Chel Grett, but my Rom is using a mirror dhelan and I was thinking about what to get for him.
There's a reason you see so many scimitars around. It's pretty much the best romulan ship.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




g0del posted:

There's a reason you see so many scimitars around. It's pretty much the best romulan ship.

If you like Cruisers. If you like Escorts it's currently the Ar'kif, but we're very much gonna have to wait to see how the T6 intel ships perform.

alfheimwanderer
Jun 1, 2011

Oh brave new world that hath such people in it...

MikeJF posted:

If you like Cruisers. If you like Escorts it's currently the Ar'kif, but we're very much gonna have to wait to see how the T6 intel ships perform.

I suppose so. I was curious how the Faeht would perform, since it seems like an improvement on the Ar'kif, except for lacking a hanger.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Lock Knight posted:

I tried to share the love of disco with the unwashed pubbie masses of DS9 zone chat, and this was the thanks I got:

http://pastebin.com/Q7yTa11Y

And they call me troll.

Man, I wish I knew the backstory to this- sounds like Dorothy was quite miffed by the time the above chatlog started. Was 'she' ERPing as a scantily-clad Orion? Or did 'she' start getting mouthy the moment she saw the Dental tag? Please say it's the latter :allears:

MikeJF posted:

If you like Cruisers. If you like Escorts it's currently the Ar'kif, but we're very much gonna have to wait to see how the T6 intel ships perform.

For me, the Ar'Kif seems the best by default, since it's:

1: An escort,
2: That's also a carrier,
3: AND comes with a cloak.

All the above makes it all kinds of :syoon: to me, and it'd be one hell of a feat if the Intel ships would be able to match that kind of versatility.

Anyway, another dumb question: I heard you can only use a single omni-directional beam array per ship- is this true? Because I have a lot of cash to burn, and I'm thinking of plonking a shitload of the things on my next character.

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Lock Knight posted:

I tried to share the love of disco with the unwashed pubbie masses of DS9 zone chat, and this was the thanks I got:

http://pastebin.com/Q7yTa11Y

And they call me troll.


quote:

[9:47] Dorothy@statesarge: Excessive troling and not playing the game correctly.

And here we see the actual reason these autists are so up in arms over us having fun. We're not conforming to their playstyle in this mmo, so we're ruining it.

Aleth
Aug 2, 2008

Pillbug

Korgan posted:

And here we see the actual reason these autists are so up in arms over us having fun. We're not conforming to their playstyle in this mmo, so we're ruining it.

They have a point in that we refuse to conform to Cryptic's desired weapon layout on our ships and do crazy things like all dhc/turret escort builds with no aft torps or beams.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Aleth posted:

They have a point in that we refuse to conform to Cryptic's desired weapon layout on our ships and do crazy things like all dhc/turret escort builds with no aft torps or beams.

:stare: Okay, I can see putting beam arrays on the aft section, since they can make broadsides hurt, but what purpose do aft torpedoes do? Cruisers and science vessels should always be trying to stay in the fight and maneuver for broadsides, right? And if your escort's aft is facing the enemy, then that's when you should boost speed and zoom off to prepare another head-on attack run. At most, use turrets- at least those'll be covered by any cannon skills.

Acer Pilot
Feb 17, 2007
put the 'the' in therapist

:dukedog:

CommissarMega posted:

:stare: Okay, I can see putting beam arrays on the aft section, since they can make broadsides hurt, but what purpose do aft torpedoes do? Cruisers and science vessels should always be trying to stay in the fight and maneuver for broadsides, right? And if your escort's aft is facing the enemy, then that's when you should boost speed and zoom off to prepare another head-on attack run. At most, use turrets- at least those'll be covered by any cannon skills.

The butt torpedoes are for all the running away they do.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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CommissarMega posted:

:stare: Okay, I can see putting beam arrays on the aft section, since they can make broadsides hurt, but what purpose do aft torpedoes do? Cruisers and science vessels should always be trying to stay in the fight and maneuver for broadsides, right? And if your escort's aft is facing the enemy, then that's when you should boost speed and zoom off to prepare another head-on attack run. At most, use turrets- at least those'll be covered by any cannon skills.

shown here: an optimal Cryptic build

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Yeah, but the Spathi are effective, competent and likeable.

Dammit, now I want a Star Control MMO.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

I like using an aft torpedo launcher and Torpedo Spread III to poop out a cloud of explosives after my strafing run.

Bieeanshee
Aug 21, 2000

Not keen on keening.


Grimey Drawer

CommissarMega posted:

Yeah, but the Spathi are effective, competent and likeable.

Dammit, now I want a Star Control MMO.

"We are the Ur-Quan Dent-al. We cleanse our destiny."

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Bieeardo posted:

"We are the Ur-Quan Dent-al. We cleanse our destiny."

"Hold! What you are doing to us is wrong! Why do you do this thing?"

"Because you are fat and gross. Also for the love of disco. This is the E-Dental Doctrine."

Baron Porkface
Jan 22, 2007


What all has happened in the last year? Is the game good/healthy population? Apparently there is new management. Are Klingons fun yet?

DonDoodles
Aug 18, 2010

by general anime

Lock Knight posted:

I tried to share the love of disco with the unwashed pubbie masses of DS9 zone chat, and this was the thanks I got:

http://pastebin.com/Q7yTa11Y

And they call me troll.

Dental: Reported for wasting time.

Speaking of which, I was fortunate enough to log on just in time to watch this exchange in the Xtern1ty channel.

Link:http://pastebin.com/nd3vKrWa

quote:

Xean@xtern1ty: I think that's why they hate me so much, I never give them the satisfasfaction of anything.

quote:

Queen Nikita Blaze BlackFire@sharradray: Well i mean, the only two ways i can think of is to ignore it compelte, murder the bitchs in real life...or go to cryptic and hold the staff hostage untill they agree to erase these trolls fromt he da[atabase]

Baron Porkface
Jan 22, 2007


Please give wiki access to Ketermuls, who is me.

Moral_Hazard
Aug 21, 2012

Rich Kid of Insurancegram
Maybe I shouldn't be surprised, but STO pubbie autists are worse than EVE pubbie autists.

Also, I made my Romulan an engineer. Can an engineering captain fly an escort style vessel or is that just stupid?

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




MoraleHazard posted:

Also, I made my Romulan an engineer. Can an engineering captain fly an escort style vessel or is that just stupid?

Your career path does not constrain the ships you should fly

though if you're gonna be an engineer you may as well fly an escort so you can put all that survivability to use

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Sep 19, 2014

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


Baron Porkface posted:

Please give wiki access to Ketermuls, who is me.

Done.

bubbles depo
Jul 25, 2006

doot doot!

DonDoodles posted:

Dental: Reported for wasting time.

Speaking of which, I was fortunate enough to log on just in time to watch this exchange in the Xtern1ty channel.

Link:http://pastebin.com/nd3vKrWa

Hahahaha holy poo poo the very end.

quote:

[XTERN1TY] Spider-Man@zilla75: is this a private channel? i fogot
[Tell] To Spider-Man@zilla75: Nope. It's not!

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


DonDoodles posted:

Dental: Reported for wasting time.

Speaking of which, I was fortunate enough to log on just in time to watch this exchange in the Xtern1ty channel.

Link:http://pastebin.com/nd3vKrWa

Ahahaha he's accusing us of making "rape and death threats", something we don't do as it's against the ToS and super easy to report, while his channel is talking about killing us irl, and somehow he's the victim here? :v:

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
Does anyone have links to good Tactical Captain builds? I seem to recall some, but it's been ages since I last played STO.

Conskill
May 7, 2007

I got an 'F' in Geometry.

Korgan posted:

Ahahaha he's accusing us of making "rape and death threats", something we don't do as it's against the ToS and super easy to report, while his channel is talking about killing us irl, and somehow he's the victim here? :v:

Jack Bauer school of ethics: anything is permissible to the sociopath by virtue of his being on the Preordained Good Guys side.

Lorak
Apr 7, 2009

Well, there goes the Hall of Fame...

CommissarMega posted:

Anyway, another dumb question: I heard you can only use a single omni-directional beam array per ship- is this true? Because I have a lot of cash to burn, and I'm thinking of plonking a shitload of the things on my next character.
Sadly correct for the time being. No idea if it'll ever change.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Was gonna buy a nicely high-price omnidirectional AP beam array but now I think I'll just try my luck at upgrading the mission reward one instead.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

MikeJF posted:

In cryptic's defence, a Canon one. And in the original designer's defense, it had to be a ship that could plausibly look Starfleet but actually be alien.

I quite like it. It's an awkward little thing but awkward in the right ways.

I like this one. Don't really play Federation, and my Fed captain is pretty well set in an Orb Weaver, but I might have to get that boat.

DonDoodles
Aug 18, 2010

by general anime

bubbles depo posted:

Hahahaha holy poo poo the very end.

I didn't save his response, but he was basically like: "Oh hey, buddy! How are you doing?"

Pretty sure he shot a panicked tell to Xean, though, because the channel went silent and I got kicked.

the Pixies fukken SUCKED
Jul 16, 2003

Figure 2 in a series of 3

DonDoodles posted:

I didn't save his response, but he was basically like: "Oh hey, buddy! How are you doing?"

Pretty sure he shot a panicked tell to Xean, though, because the channel went silent and I got kicked.

You forgot to add the part immediately after that where Queen Nikita Blaze BlackFire@sharradray was complaining that people were terrible at naming ships. I agreed and said some people were terrible at naming ships and characters and the irony was lost on them completely.

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Dirty
Apr 8, 2003

Ceci n'est pas un fabricant de pates

DonDoodles posted:

Dental: Reported for wasting time.

Speaking of which, I was fortunate enough to log on just in time to watch this exchange in the Xtern1ty channel.

Link:http://pastebin.com/nd3vKrWa

quote:

[XTERN1TY] Spider-Man@zilla75: i think they actually got some kind of probation for a while, not trying to spread rumor, just what I heard

In what way is repeating what you heard not spreading a rumour?

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