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Prester John posted:From my perspective of being raised in wingnut world, I'll try to shed some light on why I think this is. Remember how saddened you were when you found out Robin Williams died? He had been a part of your childhood, a man who connected with you on a deep level. For evangelicals its kind of like what Robin Williams suicide was in terms of the emotional blow, but actually much worse. 7th Heaven was, and in some ways still is, kind of a big deal to evangelicals. It was something they could point to as evidence that they were turning the tide around in the culture wars. It was a good wholesome family show that thrived despite evil liberal hollywood despising family values. I can remember families where the only regular TV show the kids were allowed to watch was 7th heaven. Church's would organize youth events around it, I remember youth sermons designed around whatever had happened in that weeks episode. For some in the evangelical world, the fictional pastor might as well have been a real one, as far as their emotional attachment was concerned. Even if it gets pulled from syndication on TV it'll just pick back up on iTunes or Amazon or wherever. So long as there's money to be made it'll be available somewhere. If anything I'd expect there's a surge of people accessing it right now scouring for snippets of video for use in funny GIF images. Edit: gently caress my grammar.
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Holy poo poo, Billy Carter and Roger Clinton would have had nothing on the Palins
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Savage is acting like ebola is the the end of the world. He's officially gone full and was even on Alex Jones the other day. He's openly missing that Obama may be letting Ebola in the US intentionally to reduce the human population because ecoterrorism or some poo poo. And the whole time it's this constant refrain of "I'm was right, I'm currently right, and I'll always be right." The man's ego needs constantly massaging, and I think that's the main reason he's on radio.
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 05:18 |
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Tab8715 posted:TMZ does investigative journalism? I thought it was just a lovely tabloid. It's just like any mainstream newspaper or magazine. Most of the content is bullshit or routine stories, and often enough a good journalist is attached and puts out something really good.
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 05:38 |
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Prester John posted:From my perspective of being raised in wingnut world, I'll try to shed some light on why I think this is. Remember how saddened you were when you found out Robin Williams died? He had been a part of your childhood, a man who connected with you on a deep level. For evangelicals its kind of like what Robin Williams suicide was in terms of the emotional blow, but actually much worse. 7th Heaven was, and in some ways still is, kind of a big deal to evangelicals. It was something they could point to as evidence that they were turning the tide around in the culture wars. It was a good wholesome family show that thrived despite evil liberal hollywood despising family values. I can remember families where the only regular TV show the kids were allowed to watch was 7th heaven. Church's would organize youth events around it, I remember youth sermons designed around whatever had happened in that weeks episode. For some in the evangelical world, the fictional pastor might as well have been a real one, as far as their emotional attachment was concerned. I really want to know because if I am just being ignorant be sure to correct me, but why don't they show interest in the movie the Apostle, I mean there's a movie that really does convey a story of being with God.
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 05:48 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:It's just like any mainstream newspaper or magazine. Most of the content is bullshit or routine stories, and often enough a good journalist is attached and puts out something really good. Umm, The slogan of TMZ is Celebrity Gossip, Entertainment News, etc...
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 06:03 |
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Rev. Bleech_ posted:Holy poo poo, Billy Carter and Roger Clinton would have had nothing on the Palins That they came in a stretch limo hummer was all I needed to read to know what was going down. Also, that old lady was right, gently caress the Palins.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:That they came in a stretch limo hummer was all I needed to read to know what was going down. Also, that old lady was right, gently caress the Palins. Honestly, a stretch limo hummer isn't as stupid an idea as it sounds. Those suckers are big so I imagine a limo-hummer is huge and spacy as gently caress inside. Now, what is absurd and stupid (and does, sadly, exist) is a stretch limo pickup truck.
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 06:15 |
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Tab8715 posted:Umm, And? You ever look at mainstream magazines and newspapers these days buddy?
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 06:28 |
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Crowsbeak posted:I really want to know because if I am just being ignorant be sure to correct me, but why don't they show interest in the movie the Apostle, I mean there's a movie that really does convey a story of being with God. I had to look this one up because I had never heard of it. After watching the trailer it depicts a man in a position of spiritual authority that has flaws. That throws the whole thing out right there. The congregation would be able to use their discernment to know that he wasn't truly the lords anointed and would never have followed him in the first place. True Christians would have seen right through him instantly. This is a Liberal hit piece.
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 06:33 |
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Prester John posted:I had to look this one up because I had never heard of it. After watching the trailer it depicts a man in a position of spiritual authority that has flaws. That throws the whole thing out right there. The congregation would be able to use their discernment to know that he wasn't truly the lords anointed and would never have followed him in the first place. True Christians would have seen right through him instantly. This is a Liberal hit piece. This was absolutely how it was described to me when I was a kid.
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Aliquid posted:This was absolutely how it was described to me when I was a kid. Wow, you know it seems funny that some people who claim to be out to save people cannot deal with a movie about a flawed man trying to live by the law of God. Who constantly tries to save his fellow man. Also just found it on Netflix.
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 06:39 |
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"Discernment" is basically a psychic superpower true Christians have. Among many things Discernment imparts: It allows them to know who is anointed and who is not. God can whisper to them through it to tell them what they should do with their lives. God has a special plan for each one of us, and once you have discernment you can feel where God wants you to be. It allows you to sense the presence of demons in others(can see it in their eyes), or to know when demons are manipulating a person in a plot against you. Sometimes gives you brief visions so you can know the truth of something. My Father once had "a moment of discernment" where he had a vision of exactly who had set a building on fire.
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 06:47 |
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And people say Catholics are weird.
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 06:50 |
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Rorus Raz posted:Savage is acting like ebola is the the end of the world. I watched this whole interview. Jones and Savage getting along is some "We were always at War with Eurasia" poo poo, because I can recall them trashing each other for various reasons over the years. I've had a pet theory for a while now that as the wingnuts decrease in overall number/power in society, they will compensate by voltroning the various wingnut factions together. UFO nuts and Militia Groups, Conspiracy Theorists and crystal shaman- All united together to fight the 4th dimensional blood drinking reptilian aliens that secretly posses the leaders of the Illuminati Globalist cabal to keep us enslaved on this prison planet. If I'm right, gonna be some weird rear end bedfellows. Should at the least be very entertaining.
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 07:02 |
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Prester John posted:"Discernment" is basically a psychic superpower true Christians have. Among many things Discernment imparts: holy poo poo, gently caress discernment. it's 100% the application of authority to those who can pull it off and the total spiritual disenfranchisement of those who can't
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I guess we won't be seeing much of Bruce in future seasons of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. I love that his wife went to a lawyer to make sure it was okay to secretly record her husband's therapy sessions so she could use them against him. I feel like she might not have been entirely sincere in her efforts to patch up the marriage.
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Centripetal Horse posted:I guess we won't be seeing much of Bruce in future seasons of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Honestly, if they made him work for scale and made the character into a disgusting pedophile (the more creepy similarities to the real case and the more shameless and brazen they make him, the better), it would be worth it. Take advantage of the fact that he's most likely never getting steady work again and use it as an opportunity to poo poo on him further, I say.
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They've already got Cricket.
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SALT CURES HAM posted:Honestly, if they made him work for scale and made the character into a disgusting pedophile (the more creepy similarities to the real case and the more shameless and brazen they make him, the better), it would be worth it. Take advantage of the fact that he's most likely never getting steady work again and use it as an opportunity to poo poo on him further, I say. That depends on whether or not he's going to jail. Is there a statute of limitation for child molestation?
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Prester John posted:"Discernment" is basically a psychic superpower true Christians have. Among many things Discernment imparts: Is that what was behind that whole business of George W. Bush "looking into Putin's eyes" and being able to know that he was a swell fellow?
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Zwabu posted:Is that what was behind that whole business of George W. Bush "looking into Putin's eyes" and being able to know that he was a swell fellow? Yes and the same way Bush could tell Saddan had WMDs.
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Prester John posted:From my perspective of being raised in wingnut world, I'll try to shed some light on why I think this is. Remember how saddened you were when you found out Robin Williams died? He had been a part of your childhood, a man who connected with you on a deep level. For evangelicals its kind of like what Robin Williams suicide was in terms of the emotional blow, but actually much worse. 7th Heaven was, and in some ways still is, kind of a big deal to evangelicals. It was something they could point to as evidence that they were turning the tide around in the culture wars. It was a good wholesome family show that thrived despite evil liberal hollywood despising family values. I can remember families where the only regular TV show the kids were allowed to watch was 7th heaven. Church's would organize youth events around it, I remember youth sermons designed around whatever had happened in that weeks episode. For some in the evangelical world, the fictional pastor might as well have been a real one, as far as their emotional attachment was concerned. As a Christian who is completely out of evangelical culture, I didn't see this firsthand, but I can second it. Since at least the '80s, and the dawn of the televangelist, there's been a huge push for "family friendly" Christian-themed programming that's exactly what you think it is. There's Christian radio, TV, publications and anything else all devoted around one central thing, and that thing is simply a homogenous evangelical culture that has absolutely no soul or discernible interesting things about it. Everything and everyone is as sugary as humanly possible. Every adult is always portrayed as centered around their spouse and family, almost exclusively (unless they are a pastor or Small-Town Occupation). No problems ever come up that a small child could not solve. Everyone talks as if they are talking to a small child, no matter what the age. 7th Heaven is basically the one time this kind of crap made it onto regular television. There is an absolute ton of this stuff though, primarily found in the DVD section of big-box national Christian bookstores, right next to Mike Huckabee and Ben Carson books. Kalos posted:It wasn't super right wing, it was religious feel good glurge. Pastor Dad was the protagonist of every religious email forward, his good girl prodigy daughter decided to become a pastor at the end of the series, the young kids kept to themselves and only made a peep when it was time to say something cutesy, and all problems were solved through faith and love. Pretty much. It's all this way, just sugary crap with no actual filling (either sincere Christianity or anything humanizing). There's whole radio networks devoted to "Family Radio" that's literally just Evangelical Mom Radio - couple talking about their kids in the most childish of ways, with everything, even things said to be for adults, that are easy enough for children to figure out. It's brutal.
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Prester John posted:And now in one zip that is all ripped away forever. 7th Heaven has been pulled and will probably never see the light of day again. One of the last sources of mental refuge they had that family values might someday be mainstream again. All that is gone now and anything even tangentially related to this man is forever poison. Somewhere out there a kickstarter for a new season of Revolution on Netflix just died a silent little death.
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Nintendo Kid posted:And? You ever look at mainstream magazines and newspapers these days buddy? Yes, I read the New York Times, In-Forum, Gawker, etc on nearly a daily basis. TMZ is lovely tabloid. Sure, they might have a few things but it's pretty obvious their primary focus is celebrity gossip.
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AsInHowe posted:As a Christian who is completely out of evangelical culture, I didn't see this firsthand, but I can second it. Absolutely this. This is a from an awful Christian move called "The Buttercream Gang." The buttercreamers (not making that up, they actually refer to themselves that way) are a gang of young boys that spend all their free time volunteering to help the elderly and infirm in their neighborhood. It is an old club that started druing WWII when neighberhood boys would go churn butter because all the men were off to war. The plot is that President of the buttercreamers, the most wholesome of them, moves to a big city to live with some relatives for reasons. After six months in the big city he comes back completely transformed into a godless hellraiser. (But not really, since most of the poo poo he does is actually extremely minor) He forms his own rival gang based on petty theft and blah blah blah. This represents an honest and genuine attempt to tell a story with humanized characters. To make sense of this I would like to say that evangelicals conceive of "entertainment" in an entirely different way. Entertainment is not about being entertained or blowing off some steam. (Frankly that concept is almost totally devoid in evangelicals, its as incomprehensible to them as Chan culture would have been if you time machined it to the 18th century.) Entertainment is about learning how to be a better godly person, especially for children. Every facet of of their life possible *MUST* be designed to further reinforce their godliness. This movie was actually controversial in my particular wingnut community and only the older children "who were ready for it" were allowed to watch it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOWW-r0AWr8
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 18:20 |
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Wow Pete seems like he could have used some psychiatric help. What happened to him in Chicago?
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:Wow Pete seems like he could have used some psychiatric help. What happened to him in Chicago? OBAMA!!!
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 19:22 |
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Not sure if those Christian feel good movies are better or worse than parents who made their children watch Kids
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Good Citizen posted:Not sure if those Christian feel good movies are better or worse than parents who made their children watch Kids Kids was a good movie which taught me the cool kids probably have AIDS.
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Good Citizen posted:Not sure if those Christian feel good movies are better or worse than parents who made their children watch Kids That happened???
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:That happened??? As someone who was like 12 when it came out..., yeah
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# ? Oct 10, 2014 19:27 |
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Back in the day a friend of mine's mom took him to see Mallrats because she thought it was a Rugrats movie. oops
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Al Jazeera is the best news source. Once you get past the fact that Al Jazeera sounds Middle Eastern (because it is) there's nothing really odd about the fact that a news channel that doesn't give a poo poo about dumbing down the news to be "acceptable" to delicate Western sensibilities (read: only allows "acceptable" stories and viewpoints) and gives a non-Western perspective to major news stories is the best news channel. Seriously, seeing a livecast from a Palestinian hospital during the last AsInHowe posted:Everything and everyone is as sugary as humanly possible. Every adult is always portrayed as centered around their spouse and family, almost exclusively (unless they are a pastor or Small-Town Occupation). No problems ever come up that a small child could not solve. Everyone talks as if they are talking to a small child, no matter what the age.
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fade5 posted:Don't really see the problem here, Al Jazeera English is awesome. Real fans watch the subbed version
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fade5 posted:The disparity between the fake, cheery reality of 7th Heaven and the horrible, depressing hell of Prester John's firsthand accounts of what growing up in an ACE "school" was like is incredible for the tonal whiplash between the two. Seriously, all the happy smiling people on TV and the misery and despair of reality is amazing since the Evangelicals think they're one and the same, when they're actually the complete opposite. This sounds interesting - do you have a link to the thread?
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Rush posted:Now, you add to this what she just reminded us all of, about how HIV became a politically correct disease. HIV, in the early days, I remember what people said about it. It was the first disease that had civil rights. It was the first disease that had civil rights, human rights and so forth, and it was all about privacy. Remember that, Snerdley? It was all about making sure that we did not find out who had it, because that was an immediate stigma, and that would lead to discrimination, and that would lead to no treatment. From a few pages back but I had to comment on this. This is some of the worst revisionist history I've ever heard, and we know Limbaugh does it a lot. HIV/AIDS was the disease that nobody wanted to know about. It was that "human being disease" that everyone made fun of and joked but secretly hoped would wipe out the gay population forever if we just ignored it. The first time I ever heard about AIDS it was followed by the punch line "Anally Injected Death Sperm". It was universally ignored and hushed up until "regular people" started getting it, and by then everyone was a loving hypocrite for caring about it. THIS was the early days of AIDS.
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Foyes36 posted:This sounds interesting - do you have a link to the thread? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3659026 This one specifically was upsetting to read: Prester John posted:Okay, so here is a bit I've been working on for months on and off. It goes over some of the same materiqal already described in the thread but bear with it, it really drills down into what my experience was like.
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Holy poo poo the Wikipedia article for this movie is way too long and detailed for a direct-to-video movie.
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