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TinTower posted:Anarchists lionising a man who tried to install a Catholic theocracy is just as hilarious as people showing their loyalty to Britain by marching under the banner of a Dutch autocrat who enlisted the help of the French to depose the rightful king. Are you talking about the Glorious Revolution? I don't think the French were on the Dutch side in that one.
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Is anyone here a member of the Green Party? I'm considering it but I'm just wondering why there's no PR, no campaign, no voices, no status push whatsoever in regards to the general election. Scottish Green's have been great for years, though now the independence thing is dead UK Green Party is the only one with an anti-Nuclear agenda that are in a position to do anything about it. The gently caress, Greens? Where are ye?
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Food banks are now such a year-round institution in churches and communities that the harvest festival seems a bit redundant. It's a nice tradition though, it's a bit like the various festivals they have in Buddhist countries where the community gives a load of donations to the monastery. It could become a tradition to have a big clear-out and give old clothes and toys to charity shops, as well as donating food. But then that'd probably get commercialised too and it'd turn into a pressure to throw away all last year's Christmas goods to buy more tat a few months later.  Guavanaut posted:We should combine the two and set fire to the rightful king every year. This is a nice idea.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:01
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Guavanaut posted:I'm sure if Harvest Thanksgiving did resurge in popularity it would be as much a church holiday as Christmas and Easter are now, and most people would do whatever customs involved in a secular way. As Zephro said though, that means it would probably turn into the same as the other holidays with some gimmicks and its own set of greeting cards. Having just "celebrated" Harvest Festival at a secular primary, it appeared to me to be a festival of educating kids where their food comes from (little farmers with a red tractor, two cows and a sheepdog) and collecting food for the local food bank (the donations from families in a moderately deprived area in south London were exceptionally generous).
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HortonNash posted:Having just "celebrated" Harvest Festival at a secular primary, it appeared to me to be a festival of educating kids where their food comes from (little farmers with a red tractor, two cows and a sheepdog) and collecting food for the local food bank (the donations from families in a moderately deprived area in south London were exceptionally generous). So what class are you in
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Oct 27, 2014 12:22
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HortonNash posted:(the donations from families in a moderately deprived area in south London were exceptionally generous). I really think that people who have suffered and struggled in life are simply better equipped to feel empathy for others and to want to help them.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:23
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Burqa King posted:So what class are you in I was teaching y6 for three days, I'm a supply teacher so I change class almost daily.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:25
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HortonNash posted:I change class almost daily. and people say social mobility is dead
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Oct 27, 2014 12:30
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I think poor people get into financial trouble more often and easily and tend to develop bad habits with money. Loans are taken out for nice but misguided reasons like 'to give the kids a real Christmas' rather than booze and fags. When they get a windfall they spend it straight away. They also do silly stuff like financing cars. I imagine the stats back me up if anyone has any.
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Angepain posted:and people say social mobility is dead lol
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Oct 27, 2014 12:34
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BisonDollah posted:though now the independence thing is dead UK Green Party is the only one with an anti-Nuclear agenda that are in a position to do anything about it. Is this something you are particularly passionate about?
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Oct 27, 2014 12:38
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Autonomous Monster posted:
I wonder if it's fair to assume that rich folk are better educated, and hence are aware of the benefits that monetary and trade unions provide?
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Oct 27, 2014 12:40
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Burqa King posted:I think Right-wing thought in a nutshell.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:43
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thehustler posted:Is this something you are particularly passionate about? I think disarmament is a fantastic idea, yes.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:44
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BisonDollah posted:I think disarmament is a fantastic idea, yes. I disagree. As long as irrational players like Russia exist within our close proximity, there is always a need for a nuclear deterrent. But I also think that we should be spending more on our military. 
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Oct 27, 2014 12:48
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It's so silly that fallon "retracts" his swamped remark as if it changes what he was saying any way.
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Oct 27, 2014 12:53
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Wolfsbane posted:Right-wing thought in a nutshell. Thanks but it's just a question of education, as someone else mentioned. It's sad that poor people vote for the very parties that oppose their best interests, but I'm not sure how that can be changed with the amount of money those parties have and the hold they have on a compliant media etc etc.
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I think we should suspend hostilities with Russia. We have so much in common and isolating them with sanctions will just entrench the leadership, as in Cuba or, as they say in Moscow, na Koobe. Let's work together to defeat militant Islam, recognise the Crimean election result, help them plunder the Siberian wilderness, drill the arctic and enforce Russian language teaching in eastern Ukraine while Russian forces mysteriously melt away faster than the ice caps.
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Oct 27, 2014 13:03
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Meanwhile - in reality - Sarwar has ruled himself out of being Labour Branch - Scotland Leader. Brown has also ruled himself out and Murphy hasn't said anything yet.
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Oct 27, 2014 13:09
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BisonDollah posted:UK Green Party anyway GPEW are trying. media doesn't exactly make it easy for them though http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/statements/green-party-letter
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Oct 27, 2014 13:09
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Admitting that they're giving UKIP more media exposure because they like them (mostly due to their substantial media exposure) would be a lot less transparent than pulling a Pissflaps and changing their criteria every other week to maintain a semblance of balance while still favouring UKIP.
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Oct 27, 2014 13:17
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BisonDollah posted:I think disarmament is a fantastic idea, yes. Did you mean weapons? I thought you meant power. As you were 
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Silly Hyena posted:Admitting that they're giving UKIP more media exposure because they like them (mostly due to their substantial media exposure) would be a lot less transparent than pulling a Pissflaps and changing their criteria every other week to maintain a semblance of balance while still favouring UKIP. Apart from producing high quality posts from a single forums accounts on a regular basis, what does 'pulling a pissflaps' involve, exactly? And I don't mean a couple of babychams and a compliment on my jeans.
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Oct 27, 2014 13:23
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Which forums account do you mean, pissflaps?
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Oct 27, 2014 13:29
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Burqa King posted:Which forums account do you mean, pissflaps? I mean that some people maintain multiple accounts. I'm not sure why, perhaps to amplify their message and offer the illusion of consensus?
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Pissflaps posted:I mean that some people maintain multiple accounts. I'm not sure why, perhaps to amplify their message and offer the illusion of consensus? I'd think it would be to have one account for rational discussion and the other to go round calling people cunts.
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Oct 27, 2014 13:39
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That sounds like a really weird waste of money.
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Oct 27, 2014 13:42
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Pissflaps posted:Apart from producing high quality posts from a single forums accounts on a regular basis, what does 'pulling a pissflaps' involve, exactly? Assuming you're right, then shifting goalposts or accusing people of straw manning if you're ever questioned on it? Pissflaps posted:I mean that some people maintain multiple accounts. I'm not sure why, perhaps to amplify their message and offer the illusion of consensus? The reason's more boring than that, I just don't have my password remembered so I use a less secure one at work. Figured the nearly identical names, same creation date and neither having an avatar would let most people know it was the same person. And, until someone got me an av, it seemed to be the case. Rules seem to suggest that as long as I don't use one while the other's probated, it's fine.
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You loving oval office. EDIT: dammit, this post was meant to be under my other. I'm sure you're perfectly alright, hyena.
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Pissflaps posted:I mean that some people maintain multiple accounts. I'm not sure why, perhaps to amplify their message and offer the illusion of consensus? lmao who the gently caress would bother sock puppeting on the cultural and political trendsetter that is forums.somethingawful.com (i totally believe some tedious rear end in a top hat would do this because :goons: but who give me names)
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Silly Hyena posted:Assuming you're right, then shifting goalposts or accusing people of straw manning if you're ever questioned on it? It's a fair assumption, I don't recall ever shifting a goalpost and I always raise the question of straw manning rather than accuse people of doing it. Now how about a link to that post of mine you saw where I describe Muslims as 'neo nazis' on which you have laid an accusation of racism at me? You can PM or Tweet it to me if you'd prefer to continue this vendetta in private.
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Oct 27, 2014 13:46
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I used a different name to work freelance goons a couple of years ago, and i made an absolute killing
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I remember that.
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Oberleutnant posted:lmao who the gently caress would bother sock puppeting on the cultural and political trendsetter that is forums.somethingawful.com Look in the Leper Colony for a veritable host of examples.
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Pissflaps posted:I remember that. I'm a job creator pissflaps. Its simply the honourable thing to do
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Cerv posted:doesn't loving exist for a start. The BBC are horrific, I hate them with a passion. Green Party who are next to a box in the UK general election, I meant, btw. Thanks for the correction, you big beast you. What the Green Party needs is a PR campaign funded by some Euro Millions winners. I can't believe there's actually a conversation going on (generally speaking, not just in this thread) right now just about the Tories & Labour for the general election - in this day and age, for gently caress's sake. Green's should have been primed to leap in once the LibDems (RIP) became part of a coalition.
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BisonDollah posted:The BBC are horrific, I hate them with a passion. Green Party who are next to a box in the UK general election, I meant, btw. Thanks for the correction, you big beast you. Yeah, I'm a member (Scottish Greens), and you're right. There's a lot they should be doing that they aren't. Problem largely is that they have no money and their commitment to internal democracy does kind of slow down any unified position. North of the border at least they're also in the midst of a massive re-organisation given their ridiculous levels of new members. Additionally, they're inexperienced when it comes to large scale politics, being mostly focused (practically and ideologically) on the local level. It's an issue I have with the way it's currently run too, but it's inevitable given its context.
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Oct 27, 2014 14:29
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Pissflaps posted:Everybody hates the BBC which means they must be doing something right. I like the BBC and enjoy their TV shows and radio stations
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