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revdrkevind posted:Communist detected. You uh, seem to have forgotten what Operation Anchorage actually was. It had no Liberty Prime in it at all. You are thinking of Broken Steel perhaps? Whenever people say that Fallout 3 had better exploration than New Vegas I get really confused, because exploration in Fallout 3 was awful. Everything was kind of samey and spread out. New Vegas if you set in any direction you're quite likely to find something cool and unique, and not only will it make sense but you'll notice little touches that make you realize that the developers actually spent time on this. Fallout 3 never felt like that. Zeron fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Oct 31, 2014 |
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Ddraig posted:Has there ever been a good video game based on a band? Well there was Holy Diver for the NES. So, no.
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Operation Anchorage was Bethesda's attempt at dragging the COD people with a Fallout themed COD-clone done on GameBryo. It sure was a thing.
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Zeron posted:You uh, seem to have forgotten what Operation Anchorage actually was. It had no Liberty Prime in it at all. You are thinking of Broken Steel perhaps? Operation Anchorage gave us what we all really wanted from a Fallout game: mowing down hordes of faceless mooks in the Gamebryo engine.
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Zeron posted:You uh, seem to have forgotten what Operation Anchorage actually was. It had no Liberty Prime in it at all. You are thinking of Broken Steel perhaps? Yeah, going anywhere in New Vegas there was always some kind of story you could figure out about the place. The only concession Bethesda made was the skeletons strung up in ridiculous poses which was short hand for "something interesting may have happened here" but they couldn't be bothered to expound upon it.
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quote:New Vegas if you set in any direction you're quite likely to find something cool and unique, and not only will it make sense but you'll notice little touches that make you realize that the developers actually spent time on this. Fallout 3 never felt like that. I just go from quest to quest in NV because Obsidian wasn't all that good at that actually. Fallout 3 was more fun to just wander in to me.
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Zeron posted:Whenever people say that Fallout 3 had better exploration than New Vegas I get really confused, because exploration in Fallout 3 was awful. Everything was kind of samey and spread out. New Vegas if you set in any direction you're quite likely to find something cool and unique, and not only will it make sense but you'll notice little touches that make you realize that the developers actually spent time on this. Fallout 3 never felt like that. It's completely opposite for me. I couldn't bring myself to finish NV, because how boring it was going through the desert everywhere even though gameplay wise NV is so much better. I mean I pretty much have nearly all cheevos in FO3, because it was so fun to just explore and find new stuff. Also the safehouse in Megaton with Vault theme was so cool. FO3 and NV are really one of those divisive games noone can 100% agree on I guess 
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7 Days to Die looks like decent fun and the reviews seem mostly positive. Is it worth picking up and is it fun in coop? I don't care for PvP.
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Ddraig posted:And yes, Mr. New Vegas is far better than Three Dog. I guess this is another dig at Bethesda, since Mr. New Vegas is a literal machine. If anyone doesn't know: Mr. New Vegas was based of (and voiced by!) Wayne Newton, aka Mr. Las Vegas, a famous Las Vegas performer. His super warm and friendly voice was fantastic, and I loved hearing him between all the songs. He was far and away better than Fallout 3's "Ow! It's Three Dog, comin' atcha!", who I got annoyed with almost immediately.
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Ddraig posted:Has there ever been a good video game based on a band? I remember there was some terrible Kiss thing. Ed Hunter was maybe OK? I enjoyed the old Blues Brothers game on the Amiga, if that counts (the band existed beyond the film). The Amiga also had a Motörhead beat em up.
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Ryuga Death posted:7 Days to Die looks like decent fun and the reviews seem mostly positive. Is it worth picking up and is it fun in coop? I don't care for PvP. The extent to which you can destroy peoples minds through griefing is the only good thing about that game.
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Hav posted:Will Wright is forever on my shitlist for Spore. The hype-train was ridiculous and ended up with molyneux-esque 'yeah, you can do that' for pretty much everything. It's a drat shame that the muddled mess we ended up with could have been a much better game.
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People who don't like Fallout 3 clearly didn't mod the game to have a human-size Liberty Prime as a follower.  EDIT: I did that and then I also dressed up Jericho in the Mechanist's outfit so it looked like he was jealous of how cool my rad robot buddy was and wanted to get my attention. I had a lot of fun with Fallout 3.
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Orv posted:The extent to which you can destroy peoples minds through griefing is the only good thing about that game. I disagree. I think 7 Days is the best game "of that type" available right now. You know, building-a-base with friends and trying to survive against nature (which are zombies in this case) and other survivors who want your stuff. The game is also in active and steady development. If it sounds like the kind of game you would want to play, then I suggest you go for it.
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Ddraig posted:Has there ever been a good video game based on a band? I remember there was some terrible Kiss thing. Ed Hunter was maybe OK? Brutal Legend, for the most part. It's based on all the rock and metal bands.
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RBA Starblade posted:I just go from quest to quest in NV because Obsidian wasn't all that good at that actually. Fallout 3 was more fun to just wander in to me. Part of the problem there is that it was really just the same thing again. Same assets, same engine (I'm so glad the Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine is done because I was so tired of that poo poo), same feel. After sinking a hundred hours into each of the games before it it's hard to ignore the similarities.
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Manatee Cannon posted:Part of the problem there is that it was really just the same thing again. Same assets, same engine (I'm so glad the Oblivion/Fallout 3 engine is done because I was so tired of that poo poo), same feel. After sinking a hundred hours into each of the games before it it's hard to ignore the similarities. Skyrim was also that engine, we have no idea if they're finally bother to upgrade for FO4/TES6. Orv fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Oct 31, 2014 |
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The Gamebryo engine/whatever variant they used for Skyrim is literally held together by virtual marshmallow fluff and twist-ties. You can't upgrade it.
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Drifter posted:The Gamebryo engine/whatever variant they used for Skyrim is literally held together by virtual marshmallow fluff and twist-ties. I mean to something other than Gamebryo.
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They'll probably squeeze at least one more game out of Gamebyro. This article from last year had the sentence "Something we've only discovered on our current, unannounced work are what we call 'Helper Markers'". This suggests to me that they are using the same world editor for their next game, and therefore very likely it will be Gamebyro again.
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Ddraig posted:Has there ever been a good video game based on a band? I remember there was some terrible Kiss thing.
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Ddraig posted:Has there ever been a good video game based on a band? I remember there was some terrible Kiss thing. Ed Hunter was maybe OK? No clue about good band games, but stumbling over In Extremo in Gothic 1 was pretty impressive back in 2001: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DANm3gxaIXA&t=170s
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buzzsaw.gif posted:Wow, this was a surprise: Not sure if I agree about the "look" necessarily. I think the graphics are really great and look different from most "anime" games. But yes, whether "anime as hell" or not, it's a great game. It certainly has its faults and weird balancing decisions (maybe modders can help there) but overall it's one of the best SRPGs out there and one of the best PS3 exclusives. GMG still has the 10% off and a coupon so you can get the game for under $15. Get it! On Fallout 3 - I think landscape and architecture and exploration is better then New Vegas. I like the vibe of the environment more. Mods: https://sites.google.com/site/fo3wanderersedition/recommended-mods. There are more though for character bodies and environment. http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/2456/ - this one is really good as it changes landscape to be more green vs dustland.
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ymgve posted:They'll probably squeeze at least one more game out of Gamebyro. This article from last year had the sentence "Something we've only discovered on our current, unannounced work are what we call 'Helper Markers'". This suggests to me that they are using the same world editor for their next game, and therefore very likely it will be Gamebyro again. I really really hope it's not being used for Fallout 4/Elder Scrolls Next. That would be a huge limiting factor.
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ymgve posted:They'll probably squeeze at least one more game out of Gamebyro. This article from last year had the sentence "Something we've only discovered on our current, unannounced work are what we call 'Helper Markers'". This suggests to me that they are using the same world editor for their next game, and therefore very likely it will be Gamebyro again.
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oblomov posted:Not sure if I agree about the "look" necessarily. I think the graphics are really great and look different from most "anime" games. But yes, whether "anime as hell" or not, it's a great game. It certainly has its faults and weird balancing decisions (maybe modders can help there) but overall it's one of the best SRPGs out there and one of the best PS3 exclusives. Your viewpoint is certainly valid and I do like the graphics in game. The gameplay is actually very pleasantly watchable. The only things that make me roll my eyes are the cutscenes, and I'm certainly willing to admit that my anime prejudice is the real issue here.
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I would happily play as many janky Gambryo Fallout/Elder Scrolls games as can be produced until the sun gives out its last ashen light.
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oblomov posted:I really really hope it's not being used for Fallout 4/Elder Scrolls Next. That would be a huge limiting factor. When it comes to Bethesda, never believe the hype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7trmEmI5Js
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Orv posted:Oh good god. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBXA-eqIt58 Yup, annoying in every language.
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Public service announcement: Since everybody is probably swimming in copies of Risk of Rain now, they fixed a bug recently in the new update that had broken leveling, which had made it nearly impossible to get past a few levels. It's still a tough game of course, but if you tried it and found it super frustrating give it another go now, maybe you'll get farther. Also I got  : http://steamcommunity.com/id/logan5_/
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Drifter posted:The Gamebryo engine/whatever variant they used for Skyrim is literally held together by virtual marshmallow fluff and twist-ties. I fear they'll be chained to that engine forever. Just for the sake of modability, I can't imagine them moving to a new engine and keeping things easily modable.
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oblomov posted:Not sure if I agree about the "look" necessarily. I think the graphics are really great and look different from most "anime" games. But yes, whether "anime as hell" or not, it's a great game. It certainly has its faults and weird balancing decisions (maybe modders can help there) but overall it's one of the best SRPGs out there and one of the best PS3 exclusives. If you're one of the few that has issues with GMG, GetGames also has it on for $14.99 http://www.getgamesgo.com/product/v...es%20pre-orders
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Hav posted:Will Wright is forever on my shitlist for Spore. The hype-train was ridiculous and ended up with molyneux-esque 'yeah, you can do that' for pretty much everything. Well people familiar with Will Wright's career knew that he had tried to make that game at least twice before and failed miserably so they knew to keep their expectations in check. What he should have done was get back with Sid Meier and gotten Simgolf 2 made.
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Braking Gnus posted:A few people have asked, but so far no responses. Surely when I do it, it'll work though, right? Elminage Gothic is on sale, but it had some issues at release. Did it get fixed up and made worth playing? I'd love to know too, game looks awesome and I dig the art style. However, I'm reading that characters randomly gain stats when leveling up which is kind of a dealbreaker for me. Don't have time to deal with that poo poo anymore.
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Drakes posted:I fear they'll be chained to that engine forever. Just for the sake of modability, I can't imagine them moving to a new engine and keeping things easily modable. You're right. Skyrim is the 7th most played game on Steam daily, and I can tell you that's not because of the quality of the vanilla game. People still make youtube videos about Mod of the Day/Week/Month/Year for Skyrim, Gamebyro isn't going away until that stops which I can't see happening. Why go through all the work of designing a new engine that's just as easily moddable when you can just wrap some more duct tape around their current one? I can't see an Elder Scrolls game or Fallout game holding me for the immense amount of hours they usually do without mods.
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Andrast posted:If I have to choose between a new engine or good modding capabilities in a New elder scrolls / Fallout 4, I will choose modding every time. Mods are like 90% of the reason I play Bethesda games at all. The possibility exists though that with a new engine and a new console generation they wouldn't be shackled and create a game that needs to be fixed by modders. Ahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 
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I don't know why you guys believe that a Bethesda game on a new engine will be good. The problem with their games was always elsewhere and with a new engine they'll have even less time to work on those other things while still figuring out how to use their new Gamebryo.
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