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FMguru posted:Be cheered that Ro Khanna's explicit campaign of "I'll be a completely bought and paid for whore for whatever Facebook/Google/Apple wants to do" lost in Silicon Valley. Elsewhere in the state, 5 term Democratic congressman Jim Costa may have lost his D+7 district to dairy farmer Johnny Tacherra by 800 votes.
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Well, the rest of the country may be going down in flames, but at least my district re-elected its cool Dem Congressman. 
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As a bike enthusiast, I'm happy that SF's measure L failed, even though I don't live there.
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mA posted:I'm actually (pleasantly) shocked that Tuck didn't win, especially how things seemed to be trending during the last month and especially with the outside money rolling in. I can't believe G lost so badly. If you actually read the measure, they had carved out exemptions for basically every concievable scenario where someone was actually using their property as housing and not as a quick-flip investment strategy. The only people it hurt were real estate agents getting huge fees off of yearly property turnover and the millionaires who are buying everything and immediately flipping it.
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Well, the rest of the country may be going down in flames, but at least my district re-elected its cool Dem Congressman. Ditto. To my relief Lofgren swept Murray 67/33, so people didn't fall for the bullshit. Our dem state assemblyman slaughtered his challenger, too.
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Lest you guys get too complacent, here's a reminder that several state-wide races were in the 52-ish to 48-ish range: Superintendent of Public Instruction Tom Torlakson 2,266,425 52.1% Marshall Tuck 2,084,936 47.9% Controller Betty T. Yee (D) 2,650,965 52.8% Ashley Swearengin (R) 2,374,530 47.2% Secretary of State Alex Padilla (D) 2,647,758 52.5% Pete Peterson (R) 2,396,986 47.5% 2% swing in turnout could've mattered in these races. Here's the SoS map in case you need a reminder of what the terrible part of the state is:  (Click for interactive) Family Values fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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Nov 5, 2014 19:11
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How bad is the shift in the assembly, and what was the shift in turnout compared to 2012? I noticed my district actually went 52-48 R, even though I'm pretty sure it was solidly D previously.
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FMguru posted:22% in, Torkalson is up 54.1/45.9, an 8.2% gap. Looks like public schools rule, private charters drool. Sweet, so excited to keep the status quo of terrible schools and impossible to fire teachers.
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cmerepaul posted:Sweet, so excited to keep the status quo of terrible schools and impossible to fire teachers. Yeah I was hoping for union busting and paying more for schools that are just as bad but some guy gets to pocket the profits.
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cmerepaul posted:Sweet, so excited to keep the status quo of terrible schools and impossible to fire teachers. I love my kid's public school 
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Nov 5, 2014 19:27
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The problem with teachers is that they're too employed! 
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Nov 5, 2014 19:27
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Out of curiosity I checked my old district, and it looks like old Buck McKeon finally retired and didn't run this year. "Hey, maybe this is finally a chance for the dems to retake the seat from a really popular incumbent!" I think. Not even close. And I don't just mean the Dem canidate got slaughtered: there was no dem canidate. It was between Steve Knight & Tony Strickland, two republicans. So loving glad I got out of Castaic, dear god.
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Nov 5, 2014 19:28
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Truly the problem with schools is that teachers can't be fired for every parental complaint.
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Sydin posted:there was no dem canidate. It was between Steve Knight & Tony Strickland, two republicans. Top-two primary! 
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CPColin posted:Top-two primary! I acknowledge that the jungle primary is problematic, but I hold out hope that it will lead to a challenger from the left for Feinstein 
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Nov 5, 2014 19:33
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The city of Richmond utterly repudiated Chevron's $3 million+ campaign to buy the city council with a sweep by the Richmond Progressive Alliance and a win for the progressive mayoral candidate. I've been getting glossy full-color campaign trash from Chevron every day for months and drat do I feel good.
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^I love it when propaganda fails. One of my favorite election moments to this day is when Meg Whitman spent more of her personal fortune on her campaign than any candidate in history, and she lost stone cold to Ol' Jerry anyway.Family Values posted:I acknowledge that the jungle primary is problematic, but I hold out hope that it will lead to a challenger from the left for Feinstein Amen. I mean it'll never happen, but a man can dream. 
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Nov 5, 2014 19:35
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Zeitgueist posted:Truly the problem with schools is that teachers can't be fired for every parental complaint. Or, apparently, anything. quote:An average of 2.2 teachers a year are dismissed for unsatisfactory performance in a state where 275,000 teachers work, a plaintiffs' expert testified during the trial. A California teacher has a better chance of being struck by lightning than being fired for incompetence. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2014/06/16/teacher-tenure-los-angeles-vergara-editorials-debates/10640909/
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Nov 5, 2014 19:36
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Sydin posted:Amen. I mean it'll never happen, but a man can dream. Yeah dreams are dreams but Senate is about as likely as the PSL successfully getting a governor elected.
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Family Values posted:I love my kid's public school That's good for you and your kids, but statewide, it is a little embarrassing ranking below Texas, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee as the 10th worst state for education. http://www.edweek.org/ew/qc/2014/state_report_cards.html
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cmerepaul posted:Or, apparently, anything. Oooh, we're gonna do this in the Cali thread?
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cmerepaul posted:That's good for you and your kids, but statewide, it is a little embarrassing ranking below Texas, Florida, Georgia, and Tennessee as the 10th worst state for education. It is, and that's not a problem that's going to be fixed by making it easier to fire teachers or throwing down more charters. Our education problem is more systemic than that. One of the big problems is that we have a large population & an education budget that doesn't reflect that, leading to California having the 49th lowest per-pupil spending in the nation. Other issues include the huge economic disparity between regions in California, and a large body of ELS students who underperform on state testing, because it turns out when you force them to take the same test as native English speakers they don't do so hot. edit: Also teaching really is a profession that needs some strong employment protections on it, because even the biggest conservative dingus realizes how impactful educators can be on a child's development, particularly K-8. Yes, strong protections always mean you'll have a minority who abuse the system to coast without reprimand, but weakening those protections will just lead to good educators being removed because administrators/parents/what have you don't like how they're teaching. Sydin fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Nov 5, 2014 |
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cmerepaul posted:Or, apparently, anything.  It's actually easier to cut funding for support programs and positions, wait 2 years as grad rates crash and dropout rates hike, charterize/magnetize the whole facility and bring in some TFA burnouts! The problem is sometimes you end up displacing really talented, driven people and it bites you in the rear end. But not often enough for it to mean anything.
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I know at least 3 teachers who've lost their jobs (one was a bilingual harvard grad who was an amazing science teacher and worked at ~a charter~) in the last year. But hey it turns out that's impossible I'll let them know so they can get their jobs back.
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Sydin posted:It is, and that's not a problem that's going to be fixed by making it easier to fire teachers or throwing down more charters. Our education problem is more systemic than that. Yeah but what if we just fire all the teachers? I mean literally just put the kids in buildings and let them Lord of the Flies their way to success.
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Papercut posted:Yeah but what if we just fire all the teachers? I mean literally just put the kids in buildings and let them Lord of the Flies their way to success. ~*~bootstraps!~*~
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Zeitgueist posted:I know at least 3 teachers who've lost their jobs (one was a bilingual harvard grad who was an amazing science teacher and worked at ~a charter~) in the last year. I mean, it's not like education is a social good, or like we have a vested interest in promoting progressive education for future generations. It's numbers on a balance sheet beep boop blop.
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Papercut posted:Yeah but what if we just fire all the teachers? I mean literally just put the kids in buildings and let them Lord of the Flies their way to success. gently caress. Why didn't I think of that? This is what I get for going through public institutions for K-12/Uni: I'm too dumb to come up with awesome poo poo like this.
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Zeitgueist posted:I know at least 3 teachers who've lost their jobs (one was a bilingual harvard grad who was an amazing science teacher and worked at ~a charter~) in the last year. Due to budget cuts, or because they were lovely teachers?
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cmerepaul posted:Due to budget cuts, or because they were lovely teachers? I thought we couldn't get rid of teachers for any reason. Isn't that what you said? 'cause otherwise you might be making a disingenuous argument that we should union bust because it's hard to fire a teacher for "being not good" because it's hard to quantify teaching quality but conflating that with overall job protection, because it's not that hard at all to get rid of teachers.
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You're right, I said anything but I meant anything performance related.quote:cause otherwise you might be making a disingenuous argument that we should union bust because it's hard to fire a teacher for "being not good" I'm not arguing we should destroy the unions, I just think it's a little ridiculous how much they protect bad teachers. Unless you're making a disingenuous argument that only 2 out of 275,000 teachers are bad at their jobs. Sydin posted:weakening those protections will just lead to good educators being removed because administrators/parents/what have you don't like how they're teaching. If parents and administrators don't like how they teach, then what is the criteria you use to classify them as good teachers?
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cmerepaul posted:You're right, I said anything but I meant anything performance related. Unions exist to protect teachers. Saying somebody is so bad they should be fired, but not doing anything wrong enough to get fired any other grounds besides "performance" as an abstract is hard to prove, and it should be. If they are not following procedure, you can fire them. If they are hitting kids, you can fire them. If you don't like them, you can fire them. It happens all the time. Unions protect teachers because that is their job. Teacher performance is a tough thing to quantify, because there's a lot going on. We constantly complain about how poor teachers are at schools in poverty with little funding. Because whining about teachers is easy and getting funding is hard.
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Papercut posted:The last results I saw for SF didn't look good, since it needs 2/3rds instead of just a simple majority. It's a better measure than the Berkeley version too, since the money would be guaranteed to children's nutrition and health programs. Sucks because it's going to lose with a majority "yes" vote. The San Francisco version was actually defensible unlike Berkeley's "Berkeley vs. Big Soda" campaign that unsurprisingly will not tax the sundry unhealthy beverages that Berkeley voters are more likely to drink and will not do anything to improve the public's health anyway. This town's politics are awful.
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Zeitgueist posted:How in gently caress did such an unabashedly good prop get on the ballot and pass? You can keep being cynical. The Democratic machine in CA supported this measure wholeheartedly because they (1) currently control executive branch, and (2) Jerry Brown's government is going to lose it's prisons to federal receivership unless they reduce overcrowding by 2016 (this is the final extension, I think). So, it's really about cash and federalism.
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Slobjob Zizek posted:You can keep being cynical. The Democratic machine in CA supported this measure wholeheartedly because they (1) currently control executive branch, and (2) Jerry Brown's government is going to lose it's prisons to federal receivership unless they reduce overcrowding by 2016 (this is the final extension, I think). 'It would've been an OK law, but the machine supported it.'
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I can't believe the insurance-regulation prop lost. Only 40 percent in favor.
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Shbobdb posted:How the gently caress did Libby win in Oakland? I wouldn't have thought Jerry Brown's endorsement would mean much. Dude's an asshat. Jean Quan was/is really, really unpopular.
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Senf posted:Jean Quan was/is really, really unpopular.
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I'd heard nothing but bad things about Dellums' tenure as mayor before Quan.
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Willa Rogers posted:I can't believe the insurance-regulation prop lost. Only 40 percent in favor. What can you say? Insurance companies have a lot of money.
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