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We just have a departmental "everyone brings in baked good day". Then a team building exercise where we bitch against all the departments that didn't bring anything yet mooched off of us. We're known as the grumpy department.
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FrozenVent posted:We just have a departmental "everyone brings in baked good day". Would one of the departments that mooch be called engineers? We do that poo poo all the time. Free food!
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 13:36 |
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Do they have a sense of humor? Give him the exact model of iPod from that office episode (old model, not in color - should be cheap) wrapped in a printed photo of Michael Scott.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 15:18 |
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silvergoose posted:Would one of the departments that mooch be called engineers? We do that poo poo all the time. Free food! We've got like three departments that have engineers, at least.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 15:37 |
FrozenVent posted:We've got like three departments that have engineers, at least. Well I'm just saying we are like locusts with free food.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 15:38 |
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Actually she's not especially popular so its kind of tough. A lot of people have complained and tried to get on other teams because of her leadership "style". Me and her don't exactly see eye to eye either, so any humor gift would likely come off flat. She has a NY Jets thingie on her desk, maybe I'll get her something Jetsy. Or a broken water softener.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 15:42 |
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silvergoose posted:Well I'm just saying we are like locusts with free food. Yeah, why are we like that? I'm always embarrassed that the admin staff is so much more generous but it's such a compulsion. Bad with money/general office gripe: my office likes to have potlucks every month which is way too often; quarterly would be just fine tho'. I don't cook so it costs my like $20 to get something big enough and takes like an hour where I'd otherwise spend 30 min at my desk eating a $5 sandwich. But if I don't participate I look like a anti-social weirdo and I can probably kiss any chance of a promotion goodbye. And I keep forgetting to bring something but then everyone guilts me into attending anyway so I look like like a stingy anti-social weirdo.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 16:39 |
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At my office, we have a lottery pool. It is simultaneously a bad with money and a good with money decision because it is just giving away cash but at the same time, if the pool happens to win, I don't want to be the one sad bastard that has to show up at the office.Tora! Tora! Tora! posted:I don't cook Learn and you won't be so bad with money. You don't even need the oven, just get a slow cooker. It is actually less work to use a slow cooker than it is to make Hamburger Helper.
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Tora! Tora! Tora! posted:Yeah, why are we like that? I'm always embarrassed that the admin staff is so much more generous but it's such a compulsion. At the office when other teams have potlucks I swoop in after like a goddamned vulture and eat as much as I possibly can. I am the good with money king.
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Tora! Tora! Tora! posted:Yeah, why are we like that? I'm always embarrassed that the admin staff is so much more generous but it's such a compulsion. This bugs me too. I'm similar to you in that regard. I'm "too negative" because I"m not excited about Ugly Sweater day or this Secret Santa thing. Forced social interactions are hard.
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Jastiger posted:This bugs me too. I'm similar to you in that regard. I'm "too negative" because I"m not excited about Ugly Sweater day or this Secret Santa thing. This right here. Not allowed to make my own friends, I'm supposed to do lunch on my time with certain people. My department is badly managed.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 17:20 |
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Jastiger posted:At first I thought it was benign but after reading the last page I'm sweating it. Can't go wrong with history books for gifts: http://amzn.to/1Boiaji
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BigDave posted:Can't go wrong with history books for gifts: http://amzn.to/1Boiaji Hahaha, that sounds fantastic, just requested it at my local library. I had an rear end in a top hat supervisor at my last job who made me and my co-worker's lives miserable, was really tempted to give him a copy of "The Prince" as a parting gift.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 20:35 |
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Haifisch posted:Considering that there are people who shop there specifically because of how Costco treats their employees, it's just advertising costs of a sort. Have you ever seen an ad for Costco? That's exactly what it is. VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Dec 6, 2014 |
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BigDave posted:Can't go wrong with history books for gifts: http://amzn.to/1Boiaji That is exactly the kind of thing I would want to do. That is awesome. Probably bad with money though because it'd stop me from leaving the dept and maybe cost the job.
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# ? Dec 6, 2014 21:02 |
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I once worked in a call centre of about 200 people excluding management. One of the staff members who had worked there quite a while had about $6000 of jewellery stolen from her locker at the gym. Unlucky, but why the heck would you leave that in a flimsy gym locker or not have it insured? Anyway another staff member thought that this was an appropriate excuse to send a collection around to help replace her co-worker's stolen bling. Myself and many of my colleagues thought this was ridiculous and refused to contribute, and after the donation envelope had circled the entire centre there was only about $40 in it. So one of the managers (who almost everyone hated, but was friendly with the woman whose jewellery was stolen) went around again with the collection envelope and tried to bully people into chucking in. I think they got up to $100, I guess her brow beating worked on some people.
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Pompous Rhombus posted:I had an rear end in a top hat supervisor at my last job who made me and my co-worker's lives miserable, was really tempted to give him a copy of "The Prince" as a parting gift. I did this when I still had to attend an office Christmas party shortly after being told that we were reducing headcount and I was one of the lucky ones to go, and that my last day would be right before Christmas. My boss at the time was an insane raging rear end in a top hat who was vocally proud of the fact that he had managed to make 90% of his employees, past and present, cry in front of him while he screamed at them for minor mistakes, and would mention specific instances when this had happened at team meetings in front of said employees. He also paid well below industry rates and his reward for a month of working crunch-time 64-hour weeks was sample pack perfumes/colognes for his staff. No cash bonus or any overtime of course. He was not a well man, I think. Hypersensitive. He once chewed me out for 'unprofessional demeanour' for about half an hour because I inadvertently cracked a knuckle. And yet he once decided that when doing some consulting work for a mining company that the best way to break the ice, endear himself to the workers, and prove that he wasn't a sliver-spooner was to tell the joke "What's black and white and looks good on an Aboriginal? A Doberman." He told this to us, after the fact, with a tinge of pride in his voice. (And then told us about how one of the people in the room was actually married to an Aboriginal women but that he managed to still endear himself to the fellow through the sheer force of his magnetic personality. Naturally.) So I cosied up to one of the admin staff and got her to draw his name out of the hat when determining who my Secret Santa that year was. The gratifying thing wasn't the look on his face when he immediately opened it, but rather the look on his face when several other directors of the company who happened to walk by our table at the Christmas dinner noticed it an independently of each other said some variation of "wow, somebody knows you well."
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Have you two even read it?
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# ? Dec 7, 2014 01:35 |
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That joke is appalling, Dobermans aren't black and white. And How to Win Friends and Influence People would be a better choice.
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VideoTapir posted:Have you two even read it? I'm aware that academic analysis of Machiavelli’s authorial intent with regards to The Prince offers interpretations different to the general public consensus view of it being a how-to manual for utter bastardry, however the consensus view and pejorative perception of anything deemed 'Machiavellian' is enough to make the joke work.
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"How to Win Friends and Influence People" (which I have not read) would be a pretty good title for "The Prince."
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Scenty posted:This is pretty hosed up. Once you mutually agree to what percentages you will each pay, why should you get to dictate how she spends her money? It will end in disaster, just break up now. That reminds me of a Mr. Money Mustache article: http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2011/09/06/how-much-is-that-bitch-costin-ya/ quote:How do you determine if something’s worthwhile or wasteful? You ask your partner! Check out my highly controversial yet effective way for domestic spending harmony. It is so controversial, even Mrs. Money Mustache had to add a few qualifications before accepting it. Is it just me, or is that a recipe for major resentment? Even if both partners share the same basic financial goals, there are going to be differences of opinion with respect to what counts as a worthwhile expense. Especially if you're talking about any sort of hobby which only one person is into - I could imagine a situation not unlike an engineer requesting funding from some butthole in a suit with the technological literacy of the average Alzheimer's patient. And I've yet to hear any engineer say anything nice about that part of the job.
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Cockmaster posted:That reminds me of a Mr. Money Mustache article: Really depends on your relationship. My wife and I do something kind of like this (but with a dollar value of >$100). No is usually more a 'can we wait on that for a couple of months to fit it in the budget' type of situation or reminding each other of stuff we already have.
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I'm pretty sure this is why I'm single, and don't share finances when I'm in a relationship Having someone else have an opinion is fine, having someone else "veto" something would cause me to probably smother them in their sleep. Also, I've found that men don't really have a grasp on what is "worthwhile" for me to spend money on in regards to personal hygiene/maintenance. Then again, I've never managed to date someone who is on board with my financial policies and they tend to be the spend thrifts.
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Trilineatus posted:Also, I've found that men don't really have a grasp on what is "worthwhile" for me to spend money on in regards to personal hygiene/maintenance. Be honest, you're buying $20 face cleanser with $25 moisturizer, $20 exfoliating agents, and $50 rejuvenating cream and convincing yourself these are good and necessary because you might conceivably get a blemish or two without them, or otherwise that they just make you feel good. Maybe that's not exactly it, and it's more like $20 mascara or $100 perfume, but any way you slice "personal hygiene/maintenance" as a significant cost that would get a significant other involved, you should realize that you've been sold a pack of lies courtesy of the marketing and advertising agencies of a multi-billion dollar industry.
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# ? Dec 7, 2014 04:44 |
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I'm speaking more of a gym membership, $10 eyebrow shaping, having a professional wardrobe, and not using the same bottle to wash my feet as my hair. I coupon and bargain shop, but when a man who spends $50 a month on protein powder sneers at my having to shell out for new slacks to wear to court, I get... somewhat irritable. I am not a fan of spending tons of money on personal maintenance, but one of the joys of being female is the unfair professional standards. I probably spend less than $100 a month on makeup/hygiene/gym/clothes, but I've definitely had boyfriends who would rather that money got spent on things like bars and shows. Too bad none of those help my career, and I resent their input. Edit: This is basically me saying that for my relationships, discretionary spending money NEEDS to be discretionary, and the conversation should be "how much can we afford for each of us to spend or save as we please?" rather than "Jesus christ you got your hair cut AGAIN? You did that like, four months ago!" Mocking Bird fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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Engineer Lenk posted:Really depends on your relationship. My wife and I do something kind of like this (but with a dollar value of >$100). No is usually more a 'can we wait on that for a couple of months to fit it in the budget' type of situation or reminding each other of stuff we already have.
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Trilineatus posted:I'm speaking more of a gym membership, $10 eyebrow shaping, having a professional wardrobe, and not using the same bottle to wash my feet as my hair. I coupon and bargain shop, but when a man who spends $50 a month on protein powder sneers at my having to shell out for new slacks to wear to court, I get... somewhat irritable. Yeah, that's fair, sorry to project my annoyances on cosmetic spending on you.
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To expand on what Trilineatus said: There's a wide range of stuff outside the stupid "$100 for a 2 ounce bottle of poo poo that does nothing" products you're talking about(and that annoy me just as much as you). Some of it is more useful than others, but a surprising amount of it does have a use for certain people. Exfoliating agents can help if you have acne problems, for instance - but they don't need to cost $20! Even makeup can be important if you're in some place where impressions of you can impact your career, like a job interview. (Or in Trilineatus' case, apparently their entire job) As for perfumes and such, you don't "need" to smell extra-nice, but I can hardly hold that against someone as long as they're not spending ridiculous amounts on it. I don't bother with 90% of the stuff I'm "supposed" to be doing as a woman(eyebrow shaping?!), but I still understand this stuff can be important or useful in certain situations. Wrinkle cream and the like is still bullshit,
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Haifisch posted:I don't bother with 90% of the stuff I'm "supposed" to be doing as a woman(eyebrow shaping?!), but I still understand this stuff can be important or useful in certain situations. Wrinkle cream and the like is still bullshit, I did not win the eyebrow genetics lottery Probably a bad example. I agree that knowing what works for you and your budget to maximize the impact of consumption is ideal. I use CVS brand facewash I get for free with coupons and have used the same bottles of perfume for several years. But I'm also off the opinion that if you want $100 wrinkle cream, that's fine and you can have it as long as it's a small part of your budget and accounted for, and I think it would be wrong for a significant other to tell you "no" if it is coming out of discretionary funds and you are going without something else because that indulgence matters to you.
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Trilineatus posted:I did not win the eyebrow genetics lottery Probably a bad example. It's basically a style difference between folks who have separate discretionary funds and those who don't. We don't - it's a holdover from the days when we were on a shoestring budget living off of a single graduate student stipend and every discretionary purchase was a tradeoff that affected both of us.
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Trilineatus posted:not using the same bottle to wash my feet as my hair. I remember reading that shampoo and body soap were basically the same thing, and when my shampoo ran out a month or so ago and I started just using the body soap for everything, and can notice zero difference in my hair. I am but a simple dude though. quote:$50 a month on protein powder $50 of protein powder (5lbs) lasts me almost 3 months I use it as a breakfast replacement so it's actually pretty Good With Money on a cost-per-meal basis. This said, society exerts an invisible "woman tax" that a lot of guys don't seem to be aware of. I pulled this exact thing off at my last job (easier for me because I had multiple work sites) during the winter when I had to wear a suit, saved me hundreds on wardrobe. Pompous Rhombus fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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Earlier this month I got an offer in the mail for the VISA Black card in all of it's carbon fiber glory. I know this thread has bitched about them before, so I immediately thought of those discussions and prepared myself for amusement. I saw the $500 annual fee, laughed, and shredded the whole thing out of principle. Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Gift exchanges in an office environment sound awful to me, glad I've never had that one. The first Secret Santa I did here, the person who had me was working in the department for about a week and worked the opposite shift as me, so he probably didn't even know what I looked like. I saw his face for about a grand total of an hour. I can't really fault him for giving me $30 in Starbucks gift cards even though I hate Starbucks, it's a good generic gift for someone you don't really know. Second year I got a bunch of t-shirts that I never wore, and have no intention of ever wearing. This year I'm not doing it. Come on guys, just give me alcohol, it's not hard Also, from like a week ago: the littlest prince posted:I just found out one of the higher-ups at my workplace is affiliated with Primerica. Primerica can be good with money! If you're a completely insane sociopath who excels at manipulating other people with a complete disregard for other people's lives and well being. Personally, I'd rather live on the streets and starve to death than work there. I occasionally get mass texts from an old boss of mine trying to recruit people "looking for a change in career". He's tried spear fishing me a few times, and my typical response is to just tell him how much I love my job immediately after he asks me how things are going. I actually had an "interview" with them scheduled before I knew who they were. Then I looked into them a bit more and decided they weren't even worth the effort to call and cancel the interview. I'm not sure if they even noticed that I never showed up. Renegret fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Gift exchanges in an office environment sound awful to me, glad I've never had that one. It was an unexpected, forced "networking" opportunity that quickly became awkward.
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Pompous Rhombus posted:I remember reading that shampoo and body soap were basically the same thing, and when my shampoo ran out a month or so ago and I started just using the body soap for everything, and can notice zero difference in my hair. I am but a simple dude though. If you're a guy with short hair, and have been lucky enough to have non-oily and non-dry hair, you can totally get away with using soap. When i have short hair, i get away with using soap. However since my hair is currently halfway down my back, i don't have that luxury, since i have to use moisturizing shampoo+conditioner otherwise my hair dries out and tangles super easy (I mean just the friction from my head against the headrest in the car can cause major snarls). Part of the problem is i use cheap shampoo and conditioner, and if i decided to upgrade i would definitely use less, but not so much less it justifies the $15 salon bottle over the $1.00 bottle of Suave. However, it does wind up with me needing a haircut every 3 months for split ends. But I also cheap out on the haircut and go to the beauty school where I can get a nice haircut for $8, or a cut+color for $25. We had the best concept when we did a secret santa at my old office. $25 max, on the card with your name, you had to put down 3 things you wanted. This way even if you drew someone you didn't know you'd have a list of 3 cheap things to pick from that wouldn't dissapoint them. Of course we kept it to within the sales department so we all knew each other so it generally was "cheapest of the three things you could find+a gag gift" to keep it under the $25. I got a nice hat, person I drew got two movies they'd wanted for a while, etc.And then the department manager got us all an Axe shampoo+bodywash gift set. (I'm actually sad they stopped making the scent i got...it wasn't the axe for women, but it was a really good scent that was somewhat gender neutral and didn't smell manly on me at all. The two girly girls got the Axe for women, but the department manager actually went through and picked scents for us that worked well for us, which i thought was a thoughtful way to personalize a somewhat impersonal gift) Bad with money: my company that's going under that I just half bailed/half was let go...the owner just got two of his cars repo'd for taking out title loans on them to try and keep the business afloat. Yes you're over six figures in debt and rather than simply dissolve the coorporation or file for bankruptcy, dude decided that it was a brilliant idea to take out personal debt instead. Dr Jankenstein fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Dec 7, 2014 |
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Good with money: Marry a cosmetologist. I did. Free haircuts, waxing, haircare for lyfe! Bonus: Access to the Cosmo supply stores with heavily discounted brand name hair care products.
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Trilineatus posted:I'm speaking more of a gym membership, $10 eyebrow shaping, having a professional wardrobe, and not using the same bottle to wash my feet as my hair. I coupon and bargain shop, but when a man who spends $50 a month on protein powder sneers at my having to shell out for new slacks to wear to court, I get... somewhat irritable. Protein Powder is a good purchase. It's most of the other supplements that are a waste of money. Pretty much everything that isn't Protein or Creatine. (Throw in some caffeine pills too)
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TLG James posted:Protein Powder is a good purchase. It's most of the other supplements that are a waste of money. Pretty much everything that isn't Protein or Creatine. (Throw in some caffeine pills too) You can screw up protein powder too by buying some stuff that's $25/lb.
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baquerd posted:You can screw up protein powder too by buying some stuff that's $25/lb. What the hell kind of protein powder is that? The "good stuff" I used to use while doing 8+ hours of working out a day doing mma was like $70 for 5lbs and I thought I was being pretty luxurious there. Overseas protein powder was pretty expensive like that though. They didn't have the expensive machinery used to make protein powder... so yea actually it was about $25/lb throughout the country.
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baquerd posted:You can screw up protein powder too by buying some stuff that's $25/lb. Is there a more expensive protein than this? http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/bluestarnutra/isosmooth.html That's 18 bucks a pound.
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