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Ignite Memories posted:What? No they didn't. They liked watching walt. No one actually liked him by the end of the show. Depends on who you talk to. Some people have a tendency to root for the protagonist and loathe everyone who gets in his/her way, even if they're a lovely person. I think the actress who played Walts wife received a bunch of hatemail and death threats for getting in his way. Well, for pretending to get in his way.
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Actually you're right people are loving psychotic I'm sure some of them did. At the very least, we can agree that Vince Gilligan doesn't want you to.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:41
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I always groan when a character has to explain something to the audience by explaining it to a character, even though they should already know that information." "Oh man, you never heard about [incredibly important/well known thing in this fictional world] well let me explain it to you." Pops up a lot in Sci-Fi and Fantasy.
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Dec 14, 2014 05:48
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Yeah. People were increasingly uncomfortable with Walter from like season 2 on.
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Elderbean posted:I always groan when a character has to explain something to the audience by explaining it to a character, even though they should already know that information." Sci-Fi in particular also has the problem of explaining concepts that are already widely known and understood in our world to characters who would definitely know it and the audience who would probably know it. So you have conversations like: Engineer: It was all a mess until I had a breakthrough! 2+2=4! Mathematician: 2 plus what?
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Dec 14, 2014 07:53
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Henchman of Santa posted:The point was about fan reaction. People loved Walt to the bitter end. By the time he was poisoning a kid or letting Jesse's gf drown in her own puke yr supposed to get that he's a baddie. Also he's very manipulative and self-serving throughout and it only gets worse.
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Kalos posted:Sci-Fi in particular also has the problem of explaining concepts that are already widely known and understood in our world to characters who would definitely know it and the audience who would probably know it. So you have conversations like: Best example is in The Matrix, where Neo is supposed to be a computer programmer/hacker and Morpheus explains what an AI is to him.
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Ignite Memories posted:Actually you're right people are loving psychotic I'm sure some of them did. The sponsors didn't want that.
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Light Gun Man posted:That reminds me, the non-engish conversations in Agents of SHIELD say gently caress it and don't sub a drat thing. People will have a whole conversation in Russian or whatever and you don't know what the hell they are saying, and it's ok. The world doesn't end or anything. I like that they play with that, too, if someone in the scene doesn't understand what's being said they'll sorta sit there with a look on their face like "You gonna tell me what the gently caress he just said or what?"
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Dec 14, 2014 09:00
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muscles like this? posted:I watched 47 Ronin and something that bugged me is that Keanu is supposed to have grown up with the love interest, except in real life he's 50 and she's 30.
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Medieval Medic posted:except for the whole squeezing his head in like an apple. On the other hand, Hafþór is, at 6'9" and 420lbs of Viking muscle, probably the closest, physically, to the Mountain as described in the books and I wouldn't be surprised if he actually could pop a man's head with his bare hands. I believe he also still holds the world record for the longest distance an individual has thrown a washing machine, at 4.72m (15.4 feet). Yes, an ordinary household washing machine. Picked up and hurled fifteen feet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRuJxzwqWWg While painted like the Hulk. By all accounts though he's a really nice guy. Once paid a surprise visit to a three-year-old boy's birthday party (as the Hulk, natch). I finally got around to seeing Guardians of the Galaxy, and the fact that Quill's father isn't really mentioned is kind of irksome. Just like oh by the way that's what Yondu was originally picking him up for and he's some ancient thing. That and there's nothing to show you how he went from a grieving, terrified child being abducted by aliens to some goofy outlaw dancing in an abandoned ruin. Other than that, the movie was pretty awesome. Rocket and Drax especially. venus de lmao has a new favorite as of 13:33 on Dec 14, 2014 |
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Medieval Medic posted:Today I saw the Hobbit p3 which made me think of this peeve.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:I finally got around to seeing Guardians of the Galaxy, and the fact that Quill's father isn't really mentioned is kind of irksome. Just like oh by the way that's what Yondu was originally picking him up for and he's some ancient thing. James Gunn says this will be a big part of Guardians 2. You can't tell everything in one movie.
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Medieval Medic posted:Today I saw the Hobbit p3 which made me think of this peeve. Gotta get those sweet, sweet PG-13 dollars  I can't really blame a company for wanting to maximize earnings, but I've lost track of how many times I've seen a trailer and thought "goddrat this movie is gonna be so cool; these action stars are gonna spend ninety minutes gunning down thugs, cracking skulls, and busting kneecaps" and been sad to discover the big bad puppy-killing drug dealers go down with one punch or by being thrown against a wall, just so the film didn't stray into R territory.
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Elderbean posted:I always groan when a character has to explain something to the audience by explaining it to a character, even though they should already know that information." In some sci-fi and fantasy they make the protagonist pretty oblivious so they can get away with this, like Luke Skywalker has spent all his life on a farm in the middle of nowhere so he doesn't know much about the goings-on in the rest of the galaxy, and Harry Potter and the Pevensie kids have lived in "our" world all their lives before they discover their fantasy worlds. It doesn't work when it's a character who really should know though.
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Elderbean posted:I always groan when a character has to explain something to the audience by explaining it to a character, even though they should already know that information." People don't know gently caress all about the real world so this is no surprise. I saw a test screening of Centurion (I think that was it, it had Timothy West in it) and one of the other audience members said "I didn't know who the romans were, why were they in Britain it didnt make sense". This is in London for fucks sake, my Australian friend called her an idiot which made the organisers angry.
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You guys who think Walt didn't have a huge chunk of Breaking Bad fans rooting for him even after he had clearly become horrible don't spend as much time on the internet as your forums membership leads me to believe. Next you'll tell me that people didn't actively want Skyler to die for the show's entire run.
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The later 80's war movie The Beast or The Beast of War does a good job with accents. The movie is about a Russian tank crew in Afghanistan, all the actors are Americans speaking in their normal accents, it's just taken as read that they're all really speaking Russian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DKMckzzyE4
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Henchman of Santa posted:You guys who think Walt didn't have a huge chunk of Breaking Bad fans rooting for him even after he had clearly become horrible don't spend as much time on the internet as your forums membership leads me to believe. Next you'll tell me that people didn't actively want Skyler to die for the show's entire run. I wanted Marie to die for the show's entire run, does that count?
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Jedit posted:I wanted Marie to die for the show's entire run, does that count? Jesus, they're minerals, Marie!
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My Lovely Horse posted:Can I briefly hijack the thread and ask if it's worth it? We were watching a DVD yesterday and caught the 47 Ronin trailer on it, and we were all like "why aren't we watching this right now instead of whatever the hell that DVD is about?" Not really, for a two hour long movie not a whole lot happens in it. Probably the only real good thing in the movie is they don't wuss out in the end and actually have them all commit seppuku, even Keanu. I was sure they were going to give Keanu an out but he totally does it too. Although that just reminds me of another annoying thing about the movie, it's rated PG-13, which is a problem for a movie where it's important that multiple people commit seppuku. Those scenes end up extremely awkwardly shot because they can't actually show what the character is doing.
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Bertrand Hustle posted:On the other hand, Hafþór is, at 6'9" and 420lbs of Viking muscle, probably the closest, physically, to the Mountain as described in the books and I wouldn't be surprised if he actually could pop a man's head with his bare hands. I believe he also still holds the world record for the longest distance an individual has thrown a washing machine, at 4.72m (15.4 feet). Yes, an ordinary household washing machine. Picked up and hurled fifteen feet. My friend sent me an article on this actually, I'll have to try and find it. It's impossible to crush a skull even if you're as big as Hafþór, or even as big as The Mountain described in the books.
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Jedit posted:I wanted Marie to die for the show's entire run, does that count? No, Marie was terrible up until like the last four episodes.
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My friend and I are on a Van Damme binge at the moment and we watched Universal Soldier on Friday. We still can't agree on what the universal soldiers were. Zombies? Robots? If they were robots why did they need muscle enhancers to fight better? Wouldn't their technological enhancements do that for them instead? If they were zombies how come they needed ice to stop from over heating? Why didn't the universal soldier programme use volunteers instead of dead soldiers riddled with ptsd? Another thing, how did Van Damme forget how to eat with a fork? There is a scene where he sits down to eat and he has to copy the other diners as he has no idea what to do, don't they feed these people at universal soldier barracks? Are they just tossing them raw meat like wolves? I have to think thats the case as one of the 'bad' universal soldiers starts tearing into raw meat like a wild animal. What the hell? Why is a Belgian fighting for the American army? So many questions 
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It's been a while since I've seen it, but they keep the soldiers in those chairs, right? I imagine they'll be fed with a tube. No idea about the rest
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EmmyOk posted:My friend sent me an article on this actually, I'll have to try and find it. It's impossible to crush a skull even if you're as big as Hafþór, or even as big as The Mountain described in the books. Also dragons aren't real
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Here's something that We Hate Movies brought up that, now that I think about it, annoys me retroactively: Disregarding variations, zombies generally have two traits to them: they have an irresistible desire to eat living flesh, and that a bite makes the living into zombies. So why the hell are there so many zombies around in these movies? Wouldn't most of the Potential Zombies be picked dead clean (pun not intended, but I like the sound of it) by any zombies nearby who have no reason to stop eating a victim until it's nothing but bone?
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Dec 14, 2014 18:54
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We you said it yourself: they want living flesh.  After you're dead they stop eating you.
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Also dragons aren't real I was responding to the person who said Hafþór probably could explode a man's head.
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Lotish posted:We you said it yourself: they want living flesh. That seems to be the general 'rule'. Once the victim is completely dead, and no longer fresh, they'll wander off towards the next meal. It also seems to be getting increasingly common for people to turn when they die, regardless of whether or not they were killed by a zombie.
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Medieval Medic posted:Today I saw the Hobbit p3 which made me think of this peeve. If you really want the exact opposite of that you should watch The Raid movies. In 2's big kitchen fight scene the bad guy starts off looking normal but halfway through the fight his face is all bruised and bleeding. At the end of both movies the main character looks like he's been through a meat grinder.
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Lotish posted:We you said it yourself: they want living flesh. I guess I internally make a distinction between Dead and Actually A Zombie. You'd figure that one (or more) zombies who have nothing but eat_flesh.exe running constantly would pick apart a corpse before it would/could animate.
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So I need to watch The Raid if I like action movies?
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Rolo posted:So I need to watch The Raid if I like action movies? Basically, yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkULMOFpuCo
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Dr Scoofles posted:My friend and I are on a Van Damme binge at the moment and we watched Universal Soldier on Friday. We still can't agree on what the universal soldiers were. Zombies? Robots? If they were robots why did they need muscle enhancers to fight better? Wouldn't their technological enhancements do that for them instead? If they were zombies how come they needed ice to stop from over heating? Why didn't the universal soldier programme use volunteers instead of dead soldiers riddled with ptsd? Another thing, how did Van Damme forget how to eat with a fork? There is a scene where he sits down to eat and he has to copy the other diners as he has no idea what to do, don't they feed these people at universal soldier barracks? Are they just tossing them raw meat like wolves? I have to think thats the case as one of the 'bad' universal soldiers starts tearing into raw meat like a wild animal. What the hell? Why is a Belgian fighting for the American army? So many questions Reanimated corpses= zombies. Overheating because the reanimation fluids (fed through the chairs ) caused over-metabolism so they'd end up consuming themselves -plus all the steroids etc . wound up the body processes to overload if they weren't cooled. They wanted mindless soldiers so dead guys are better than reprogrammed dudes (see the Bourne/treadstone). The rest of your questions are perfectly reasonable for the thread 
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I figure it's probably pretty easy to get away from a zombie, because they're so slow. Zombie sneaks up on you how they do, bites you somewhere. You bash him off and escape, but then you're hosed. Only in large groups do zombies have the collective strength to stop you and feast on you wholesale, and by that point there's already a large group. Edit: alternately, he virus is airborne or whatever.
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Rolo posted:So I need to watch The Raid if I like action movies? you need to watch Raid, Raid 2, and Dredd. Possibly on repeat
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Rolo posted:So I need to watch The Raid if I like action movies? Oh christ yes. They are both quite something.
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I haven't watched The Raid 2 yet, but The Raid was very much like Dredd with the protagonists fighting their way up a building, floor by floor.
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I forget what I was watching that reminded me of it but I hate "dying last breath dramatic statements/clues to the crime" where the guy or girl manages to get that last vital piece of information out right before they pass away.
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