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Yeah I wonder if theres a way to play giants citizen kabuto on a modern pc with Good netplay.... That game was the poo poo, besides having a million bugs. Played it on a LAN once in college and had a blast. It was a little more like an rts than a shooter, though, if I remember right
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I was answering dudes question; and I get titles for a couple shitposts  . I'm sorry it takes you pages and pages of threadshitting to get noticed, you may resume pissing and moaning about how your broke-rear end can't afford 5$ video game skins now.
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Feb 11, 2015 22:57
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I'm really sad I can't be a hot pink monster. Sure it'd suck for stealth but hot pink.
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Feb 11, 2015 22:59
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Feb 11, 2015 23:05
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Apple2o posted:I was answering dudes question; and I get titles for a couple shitposts Lmfao
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Feb 11, 2015 23:06
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VarXX posted:Evolve needs this Is this a real thing or just an excellent photoshop? Poe's Law is in full effect here.
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Feb 11, 2015 23:07
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:People saying "oh its not the fact that they don't like the game it's that there's no content to the posts" are full of poo poo. Some random guy posting "This game is a lot of fun!" is providing exactly as much content to the thread as "this game sucks horse balls". Yet somehow those posts never get called out by all the people who complain about threadshitting. I wonder why Hey little buddy, I'll give you a hint: It's because your example something awful forums poster saying "This game is a lot of fun!!!" isn't doing so in 50+ separate low-content posts.
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The Shortest Path posted:Is this a real thing or just an excellent photoshop? It's 100% real http://store.steampowered.com/app/281346/ quote:Deliver chronic lethality when you customize with the new Blunt Force Personalization Pack, complete with all-new themed camo, reticle, patch, playercard and background.
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Feb 11, 2015 23:08
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VarXX posted:It's 100% real Ahahahahah holy gently caress DLC is bad.
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Kaedric posted:Hey little buddy, I'll give you a hint: It's because your example something awful forums poster saying "This game is a lot of fun!!!" isn't doing so in 50+ separate low-content posts. I hope the well doesn't run dry, posts are a very precious and rare commodity
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Apple2o posted:Hurp *shits pants* Fixed that for you. GenericOverusedName posted:It's actually about ethics in gaming journalism Clearly this is more about ethics in Steam Reviews now. How dare people hate on a game they... they don't even own!  They don't have any right whatsoever to be posting/reviewing/thinking/threadshitting about a game unless they own it because clearly that's the only way to ever be able to form a correct opinion about any game ever. Plus, why would you ever want to write a review for something you don't own? The nerve of these naughty, rascally, sweaty trolls!VarXX posted:If you look most of the negative reviews are also labled "Pre Release" now and none of the writers own the game. It's because the full game uses the same content ID as the early alpha so if you had access to the alpha you can write a review. Let me introduce you to my friend called 'the internet'. It is the world's largest shitposting machine. Have you ever thought that maybe the bad reviews are, you know, a way of protesting the exceptionally greedy business practices of a publisher and that this is not the first time this has ever happened in the history of said internet? See: Spore DRM, Battlefield 4 launch, etc. Someone who's played the game during Alpha/Beta, thought it was meh, and hates the ham-fisted DLC practices of 2K might actually still have a valid opinion.
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Eonwe posted:I hope the well doesn't run dry, posts are a very precious and rare commodity 
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LuiCypher posted:Let me introduce you to my friend called 'the internet'. It is the world's largest shitposting machine. Have you ever thought that maybe the bad reviews are, you know, a way of protesting the exceptionally greedy business practices of a publisher and that this is not the first time this has ever happened in the history of said internet? See: Spore DRM, Battlefield 4 launch, etc. Someone who's played the game during Alpha/Beta, thought it was meh, and hates the ham-fisted DLC practices of 2K might actually still have a valid opinion. Spore got bad reviews because it was really bad and not at all what was advertised and bf4 launch the game was completely broken people weren't putting negative reviews because of skins though. I'm not saying these aren't legitimate reviews I'm saying that all of the reviews that say Pre Release are from people who don't have not played the launch version of the game and that a lot of things changed from the alpha so the reviews talking about those things may not be from the final version of the game and should be looked at accordingly. vvv That's not what I'm saying, and I'm sorry that I have seemingly upset you 
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Reviewers don't pay for games, clearly their opinions are invalid then.
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Feb 11, 2015 23:21
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Feb 11, 2015 23:22
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Brackhar posted:It's the rule changes I think. I miss the old ruleset where that type of stuff was banned/probated very quickly; it's definitely made this forum less useful to me as a developer. developers shouldn't post in this forum at all because all they ever do is have a handful of loud and insanely retarded people tell them how wonderful they are all the time despite working on and creating some of the worst games ever made
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Larry Parrish posted:developers shouldn't post in this forum at all because all they ever do is have a handful of loud and insanely retarded people tell them how wonderful they are all the time despite working on and creating some of the worst games ever made Hah. Actually the reason I posted here as a LoL dev was specifically because everyone here would tell me poo poo was poo poo, as opposed to white-knighting the game. a cock shaped fruit posted:I just want to re-iterate, because it seems to be the most common miscon ception: Oh, that's really good news! I thought XP was disabled in that case.
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Feb 11, 2015 23:29
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Yeah you can grind everything in solo if you really want to
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Larry Parrish posted:developers shouldn't post in this forum at all because all they ever do is have a handful of loud and insanely retarded people tell them how wonderful they are all the time despite working on and creating some of the worst games ever made actually the fact that devs post here is pretty cool
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Senethro posted:this is getting kind of mean spirited Truly, man is the real monster.
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At the risk of sounding like a fanboy or some other negative title bestowed on people who effort post, I offer this: There are 2 factors at work with Evolve and it's immensely negative consumer response. There are the Developers, Turtle Rock Studios, and the publisher, 2K games. When trying to explain to a friend why people are so upset about Evolve, I ended up using a term I had never said before: Aggressive Monetization. 2K has pushed the selling potentional so far up peoples noses and asses that people don't really need to see any gameplay examples before they accept in their own opinion that the game loving sucks. I personally think Turtle Rock Studios have made a pretty cool game - It isn't changing lives or curing cancer, but it's pretty different as a base concept, borrowing heavily from what they did in Left4Dead and delivering something familiar, but richly different. It was slated for release last year, with something like 8 hunters and 2 monsters, and that would have been utter rear end at a regular price tag. Now in it's pre-release marketing haze, the game get's poo poo on because it has like, 5 versions of the game, and a crazy variety of stupid DLC options. Then you open the store and there are tons of cosmetic things. I reacted the same way when I saw the store in Portal 2 - I laughed and thought "Who thought someone would buy the base product, then want to spend more release day cash on inconsequential poo poo" and moved on. I said before, to your average consumer it feels really lovely because you pay bucks to play, then it asks for more bucks. But at it's core, I still think the product - the actual GAME of Evolve is p.cool. But even then I have trouble recommending it to people because it asks a lot. I have had feedback like "The game looks greedy." I can't dispute that. It loving does. I bought a super base copy of the game, and have no plans to pre-purchase DLC - Hell, I might only get it when it's on steam. But it doesn't change the fact - 2K has put the game through the ringer, cash wise. I guess a basic closing statement is that Evolve is a pretty good GAME. It's fun to play, great with friends, it isn't revolutionary but it's different in enough ways that you'll probably have a good time. However, Evolve is a loving terrible PRODUCT, with a high price of admission and a bunch of superfluous cost-based poo poo that will sour your experience with it. VarXX posted:Evolve needs this And this is loving amazing. I am so happy it's real. Call of Duty: Tokes
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Brackhar posted:It's the rule changes I think. I miss the old ruleset where that type of stuff was banned/probated very quickly; it's definitely made this forum less useful to me as a developer. People pointing out a game is poorly designed makes the forum less useful as a developer how?
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Brackhar posted:Hah. Actually the reason I posted here as a LoL dev was specifically because everyone here would tell me poo poo was poo poo, as opposed to white-knighting the game. You seem to get XP even in single player, which is a good thing IMO. Yeah not being able to matchmake as the monster + players is understandable but also really loving annoying. Custom games mostly resolve that though.
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Larry Parrish posted:developers shouldn't post in this forum at all because all they ever do is have a handful of loud and insanely retarded people tell them how wonderful they are all the time despite working on and creating some of the worst games ever made Does anyone here remember StarDrive? Boy, that thread was a good time for all. VarXX posted:Spore got bad reviews because it was really bad and not at all what was advertised and bf4 launch the game was completely broken people weren't putting negative reviews because of skins though. I'm not saying these aren't legitimate reviews I'm saying that all of the reviews that say Pre Release are from people who don't have not played the launch version of the game and that a lot of things changed from the alpha so the reviews talking about those things may not be from the final version of the game and should be looked at accordingly. OK. Horse Armor from Oblivion. Super Monday Night Combat 2 (all of it). Diablo 3's Real Money Auction House. Destiny (all of it). It doesn't matter that Spore was a positively meh game - it got a one-star rating on Amazon on the weight of its DRM alone. It doesn't matter that (maybe) Battlefield 4 was an OK game - the publisher released it in a horribly buggy state in order to start making their money. It doesn't matter than Diablo 3 is (now) the purest form of Loot Simulator - Error 34 and the Real Money Auction House were enough for people. The bad reviews of Evolve are a lot of shitposts, yeah, but there's a kernel of people in there who are using it as a way to warn people away from paying full price for a game that's incomplete and intends to nickel and dime you for it to be complete. What other way do they have to tell people that when most of the review sites out there feel like they're in cahoots with 2K's marketing department? They're not really experiencing the whole DLC scam since 2K is more than happy to provide them with copies of the game, free of charge. If you like the game and think it's fun, that's great. It can still be a fun game and a lovely exemplar of capitalism. 'Defending its honor' just makes you look like a moron though. The best way to enjoy the game (and the thread) is to just post about your experiences and ask people questions about strategies. This seems really hard for people to understand though, so as long as people are acting like morons I'm going to have fun playing the forums.
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LuiCypher posted:The bad reviews of Evolve are a lot of shitposts, yeah, but there's a kernel of people in there who are using it as a way to warn people away from paying full price for a game that's incomplete and intends to nickel and dime you for it to be complete. What other way do they have to tell people that when most of the review sites out there feel like they're in cahoots with 2K's marketing department? I don't see how Destiny, who's offering DLC in the form of new areas, missions, and a decent amount of content off the bat, rather than Evolve who's got a poo poo-ton of DLC right off the bat but may be lacking in content?
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Lblitzer posted:I don't see how Destiny, who's offering DLC in the form of new areas, missions, and a decent amount of content off the bat, rather than Evolve who's got a poo poo-ton of DLC right off the bat but may be lacking in content? I wouldn't cast that pile called Destiny in a favorable light on that front. It's the quintessential 'content cut for DLC money' game. At least with Evolve it's cosmetic crap and extra characters that aren't even made yet. As is Evolve is fine if you get it for cheap, whether or not it lasts through the next few months re: playerbase is going to determine if it's worth it.
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Lblitzer posted:I don't see how Destiny, who's offering DLC in the form of new areas, missions, and a decent amount of content off the bat, rather than Evolve who's got a poo poo-ton of DLC right off the bat but may be lacking in content? Did you see the Polygon review for Destiny? Granted, Destiny is more of a case of hype and expectations not matching the end product, but still - it got negative reviews at launch because people wanted to warn people away from a game that was not going to be Super-Duper Halo 64 (not like it ever could be, though) and was kind broken out of the gate. Now I'm certain the game is in a much better state than it was at launch, but the point still stands.
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I like to look at what dumb "artwork" people upload to the Steam Community for the idiot games I play. I don't know why people do the things they do or why, I just observe. 
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LuiCypher posted:OK. Horse Armor from Oblivion. Super Monday Night Combat 2 (all of it). Diablo 3's Real Money Auction House. Destiny (all of it). It doesn't matter that Spore was a positively meh game - it got a one-star rating on Amazon on the weight of its DRM alone. It doesn't matter that (maybe) Battlefield 4 was an OK game - the publisher released it in a horribly buggy state in order to start making their money. It doesn't matter than Diablo 3 is (now) the purest form of Loot Simulator - Error 34 and the Real Money Auction House were enough for people. Diablo 3 was really bad and so was Super Monday Night Combat. Which is sad because Diablo 2 and Monday Night Combat are both very good. You keep naming bad games people called bad.
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GenericOverusedName posted:I like to look at what dumb "artwork" people upload to the Steam Community for the idiot games I play. I don't know why people do the things they do or why, I just observe. This is beautiful actually.
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Groovelord Neato posted:People pointing out a game is poorly designed makes the forum less useful as a developer how? I read every page of this thread out of boredom and next to nobody was doing this. It was all a bunch of whining about the lovely DLC model, with some people saying the game lacked content. Nobody really went into much detail though.
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Internet Kraken posted:I read every page of this thread out of boredom and next to nobody was doing this. It was all a bunch of whining about the lovely DLC model, with some people saying the game lacked content. Nobody really went into much detail though. Also very astute observations that this game is AIDSy and For Fags. Why can't you babies take this reasonable criticism?!?
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AndrewP posted:Also very astute observations that this game is AIDSy and For Fags. Why can't you babies take this reasonable criticism?!? this but unironically
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LuiCypher posted:OK. Horse Armor from Oblivion. Super Monday Night Combat 2 (all of it). Diablo 3's Real Money Auction House. Destiny (all of it). It doesn't matter that Spore was a positively meh game - it got a one-star rating on Amazon on the weight of its DRM alone. It doesn't matter that (maybe) Battlefield 4 was an OK game - the publisher released it in a horribly buggy state in order to start making their money. It doesn't matter than Diablo 3 is (now) the purest form of Loot Simulator - Error 34 and the Real Money Auction House were enough for people. You can't lump all DLC in together like that, though. There's so many different ways to handle DLC. Look at OVERKILL and Payday2, they handle that poo poo RIGHT. Everybody can play new DLC without owning it, so that there's no split community and there's no "well my buddies aren't buying this DLC, why should I buy it if I never play it?" They've had consistent DLC adding lots of content, and its all been fairly priced. And that's how the gameplay DLC in evolve works; you can buy new characters but you can always play with your friends who don't own the DLC. People who don't own a certain trapper can still have that DLC trapper on their party, and enjoy some of the unique gameplay it adds to the mix. The thing about the cosmetic DLC in Evolve is the idea is that it subsidizes free content for everybody. Cosmetic DLC doesn't effect anybody by not having it, but it can be added to the game very easily and you can "overprice" it. Then you take that money from the rich customers and you use it to fund development of maps which you release for free to everybody. The reason this is better than adding maps and charging "a fair price" for those maps is it splits the community. Look at Halo or Call of Duty or Battlefield, the DLC maps are usually the least played maps because you can't guarantee everybody has those. Its not like nobody ever plays them, but the stock maps usually have way more people available to matchmake with at any given moment. Trying to get around that by charging for cosmetics and releasing maps for free is A Good Idea, actually. The problem here is the publisher, 2K. They're marketing and communicating the DLC really, really poorly. On top of that, they have game versions ranging from $60 to $100, and that is going to put off people, knowing there's still more DLC to be bought. Instead they should have just sold a $60 box and released DLC later, then people wouldn't complain so much even though they'd be in literally the same situation. Its just bad marketing. Or better yet, sell the game for like $30 since you know you're going to make out on DLC later. And then you can have the "ultimate include everything" version be like $60, which feels fair. It does seem like 2K got a little greedy here and that's naturally going to turn off customers. But the business model of "overcharging" for cosmetics isn't really such a terrible idea on the face of it. Those other DLCs you listed were mostly terrible for other reasons. Horse DLC didn't subsidize anything and if Evolve ends up charging money for maps, then that's bullshit and changes everything. Diablo 3's RMAH was awful because it completely broke the balance of the game, that's completely separate from cosmetic-only DLC. Lblitzer posted:I don't see how Destiny, who's offering DLC in the form of new areas, missions, and a decent amount of content off the bat, rather than Evolve who's got a poo poo-ton of DLC right off the bat but may be lacking in content? Destiny is totally hosed so its a bad comparison. The game was released with a frankly abysmally tiny amount of content, and asked customers to simply re-play the same 10 levels over and over and over and over ad nauseum, until DLC came out. (Which was still pretty loving small for how much it cost, there's barely any new areas other than the new Strike and Raid. And one loving strike and one loving raid isn't worth $20) Have you played Destiny? I mean really describing the DLC as "new areas and missions" is pretty misleading. If Evolve was released with only the Beta content (Hunt mode only) and then they tried to sell us Campaign in chunks of $20 for each 3 maps later on, that'd be like Destiny. Evolve on the other hand feels like the Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Feb 12, 2015 |
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Please stop bringing up Destiny. I was very excited for that game and was so let down by it I'm getting triggered.
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wtf I bought this game since this thread was always on the first page, and then I read it...  thanks guys 
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WetSpink posted:wtf I bought this game since this thread was always on the first page, and then I read it... What the hell? Every thread for a game that was just released sticks to the front page for a while. Literally every game is worth buying guys!
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LoG posted:Please stop bringing up Destiny. I was very excited for that game and was so let down by it I'm getting triggered. my friend was really hyped for destiny until i told him it required xbox live which he never pays for. he picked up a free month last week and rented the game. he couldn't understand how there was so little content after all the hype and we had a nice conversation about marketing budgets in games today
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