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The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



HORSEPORN posted:

I think it's pretty cool that you're so upset about a game you enjoyed playing that you're quoting yourself just so you can keep arguing since no one really gives two shits.

I would like to see these "fanfic revisions" (lol) from Vex because I'm sure it's gonna be loving rubbish objectively but will solve all the plot problems of the original, really!! Also zero gameplay.

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I would like to see these "fanfic revisions" (lol) from Vex because I'm sure it's gonna be loving rubbish objectively but will solve all the plot problems of the original, really!! Also zero gameplay.

Lotsa gameplay, zero random pathing enemies. There will be a level consisting entirely of spinning dogs, however.

Erata
May 11, 2009
Lipstick Apathy
Hotline 3 will involve time travel and a robot skeleton war between Skynet and the US-Ruskie coalition.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Isnt the clearest example of the actor being hosed up his dream interview where he talks about how much he wants to kill children/murder people?

GLAAD trash bags
Jan 4, 2015
I'm trying to s rank death wish, does somebody have a good combo route for the Corey and Tony floors?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

Isnt the clearest example of the actor being hosed up his dream interview where he talks about how much he wants to kill children/murder people?

Vox insists that wasn't actually a dream and in fact a hostile hallucination brought on by the dread Chicken Man. He's a dumb.

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Discendo Vox posted:

Lotsa gameplay, zero random pathing enemies. There will be a level consisting entirely of spinning dogs, however.

So , a zero challenge game for scrubs.

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!

The Saddest Rhino posted:

I would like to see these "fanfic revisions" (lol) from Vex because I'm sure it's gonna be loving rubbish objectively but will solve all the plot problems of the original, really!! Also zero gameplay.

Nah it'll be just like the Payday 2 fanfics he makes, all posts no content.

e: Also laughing at "Zero random pathing enemies" yeah that's really what hotline miami is all about - predictability.

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.

Geight posted:

Nah it'll be just like the Payday 2 fanfics he makes, all posts no content.

:allears:

You're my goddamn hero.

Also seems March 16th actually didn't mean anything and was just a fun coincidence. No level editor for us. :smith:

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Ddraig posted:

Right, but it's a dream sequence? Just about the only common thread running through most people's freakouts is Richard. Pardo is off doing his own thing, he only tangentially gets involved in what everyone else is doing. His only real connection to the Fans is via Evan.

He also shot tony in the face

A Bystander
Oct 10, 2012

Skunkrocker posted:

:allears:

You're my goddamn hero.

Also seems March 16th actually didn't mean anything and was just a fun coincidence. No level editor for us. :smith:

I'm sure they'll get it in before the month is out, at least. Just gotta wait and practice until then.

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!

Wilhelm_Scream.wav posted:

He also shot tony in the face

After he surrendered, no less. The dude was that pissed off that the fans were more popular murderers than him. Pardo's a dick.

Also the date I heard for the level editor was "Spring 2015" which leaves a pretty generous amount of time before we should start expecting it.

Trick Question
Apr 9, 2007


Don't forget that Pardo went to visit Alex at her house. He definitely had at least some idea who these people were.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Trick Question posted:

Don't forget that Pardo went to visit Alex at her house. He definitely had at least some idea who these people were.
He was also there to plant evidence on her, correct? I suppose to try and get them arrested before they could do anything big enough to get news attention. I wonder why he wanted Ash or if that was just an in to get into the house.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Moltrey posted:

He was also there to plant evidence on her, correct? I suppose to try and get them arrested before they could do anything big enough to get news attention. I wonder why he wanted Ash or if that was just an in to get into the house.

I assume he planted the victim's wallet so he'd have an excuse to kill them, really. "Arrest" isn't in Pardo's vocabulary. I wonder how he knew, though. Maybe just because he knew they were demonstrators outside the courthouse?

Future Days
Oct 25, 2013

The Taurus didn't offer much for drivers craving the sport sedan experience. That changed with the 1989 debut of the Ford Taurus SHO (for Super High Output), a Q-ship of the finest order that offered up a high-revving Yamaha-designed V-6 engine and a tight sport suspension.
For some reason, every time I play Withdrawal it plays a different track. But when I restart the chapter (to choose Dallas, ofc) it gets back to Quixotic. Is this a common bug?

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
An interpretation I saw was He was planting one of his victim's wallets in the house in order to frame Alex and/or Ash as the Miami Mutilator. When the time came he was going to use it to frame and arrest her, then become famous for catching the Miami Mutilator. Then he could have movies based on his heroic's come out.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Future Days posted:

For some reason, every time I play Withdrawal it plays a different track. But when I restart the chapter (to choose Dallas, ofc) it gets back to Quixotic. Is this a common bug?

Not noticed the music, but for some reason Jake seems to randomly swap between his car and a monster truck.

Phil Niekro
Jun 4, 2005

Pardo a lil' bitch.

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!

Future Days posted:

For some reason, every time I play Withdrawal it plays a different track. But when I restart the chapter (to choose Dallas, ofc) it gets back to Quixotic. Is this a common bug?

It also plays Quixotic if you skip the intro, in my experience. For whatever reason playing the chapter with the intro included gives you a different music track.

quote:

Not noticed the music, but for some reason Jake seems to randomly swap between his car and a monster truck.

I assumed he used the briefcase full of cash from his first mission to buy a big loving truck afterwards, like the goony goon he is. :allears:

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Phil Niekro posted:

Pardo a lil' bitch.
gently caress Pardo.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Geight posted:

Locking on is of questionable value because it doesn't guarantee you'll hit and it won't compensate for a moving target very well. But you can't do it at all in Hard Mode, so I guess they consider it enough of an asset to deny it from the player just to be a jerk.

Even if it's inaccurate I used it a lot to ballpark how many goons were still roaming around at the end of a level

Geight
Aug 7, 2010

Oh, All-Knowing One, behold me!

Wilhelm_Scream.wav posted:

Even if it's inaccurate I used it a lot to ballpark how many goons were still roaming around at the end of a level

Yeah I found myself missing it more than I thought on hard, so maybe I'm not giving it enough credit. Which actually brings me to something I've been meaning to ask other people that played the first game, preferably before the major engine update.

Did original Hotline Miami just let you freely move the cursor around like Nuclear Throne, compared to Hotline Miami 2 which feels like you're emulating a joystick's movements with your mouse, or did the game always handle this way and I just never noticed?

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Skunkrocker posted:

:allears:

You're my goddamn hero.

Also seems March 16th actually didn't mean anything and was just a fun coincidence. No level editor for us. :smith:

I thought it was March 18, which chapter is it?

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Geight posted:

Yeah I found myself missing it more than I thought on hard, so maybe I'm not giving it enough credit. Which actually brings me to something I've been meaning to ask other people that played the first game, preferably before the major engine update.

Did original Hotline Miami just let you freely move the cursor around like Nuclear Throne, compared to Hotline Miami 2 which feels like you're emulating a joystick's movements with your mouse, or did the game always handle this way and I just never noticed?

I've mostly played on various sony gizmos but iirc holding shift let you freemove the cursor around and the camera would follow, so you could specifically mouse3 an individual guy

Maguro
Apr 24, 2006

Why is the sun always bullying me?

Just tried to complete the first part of level 14 the "stronghold". 2nd time in a row that I kill every enemy on the screen surrounding the pool full of body bags, and it wont let me progress. I even watched someone do a lets play to make sure I wasn't missing something. Looks like my save is probably bugged. Thinking about uninstalling because the last Fans level I played was really un-fun, and I really don't wanna play it again.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Maguro posted:

Just tried to complete the first part of level 14 the "stronghold". 2nd time in a row that I kill every enemy on the screen surrounding the pool full of body bags, and it wont let me progress. I even watched someone do a lets play of it so I made sure I wasn't missing something. Looks like my save is probably bugged. Thinking about uninstalling because the last Fans level I played was really un-fun, and I really don't wanna play it again.

Clearly you haven't been picking Alex and Ash

Maguro
Apr 24, 2006

Why is the sun always bullying me?

Wilhelm_Scream.wav posted:

Clearly you haven't been picking Alex and Ash

It's the level where you play as each one in succession. Alex and Ash's floor was probably the least frustrating.

EDIT: One thing I didn't think of, is it possible to upload save files? I really just want to progress in the game at this point, I would not mind playing the levels I haven't seen yet on a completed save.

Maguro fucked around with this message at 03:22 on Mar 17, 2015

widespread
Aug 5, 2013

I believe I am now no longer in the presence of nice people.


Gonna sidetrack things here a bit and talk about the soundtrack. Anyone notice that Roller Mobster leads pretty decently into Acid Spit? Could just be a personal opinion but... yeah, the sudden end/start thing felt like it was strung together.
And yes I only bothered putting a few tracks on my iPod so what

Kaboom Dragoon
May 7, 2010

The greatest of feasts

MonsterEnvy posted:

An interpretation I saw was He was planting one of his victim's wallets in the house in order to frame Alex and/or Ash as the Miami Mutilator. When the time came he was going to use it to frame and arrest her, then become famous for catching the Miami Mutilator. Then he could have movies based on his heroic's come out.

Related to this I think he knew that there was a group of them, but he only actually knew A&A. He mentions that her house was Ash's last known address, so her brother at least, likely has priors. From there, he frames one or both of them as the Mutilator, then goes 'oh wait, they had accomplices!', then the case gets even bigger and he gets hailed as the bestest hero ever!

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

Finally got around to finishing the last of the Son's levels. Goddamn this was the best game I've played in a very long time. And what an ending, jesus. Figuring out what actually happened with the Son and Alex and Ash was hilarious. I really wasn't expecting the storyline to end up coming together so well, but it did, and they even had the decency to tie up all the loose ends in a conclusive albeit really loving grim way.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Wilhelm_Scream.wav posted:

I thought it was March 18, which chapter is it?

It's in Richter's room at Subway's normal ending scene.

GLAAD trash bags
Jan 4, 2015
Soundtrack-wise I really liked Fahkeet, even before I got to the final level, but after seeing the ending I still really like it, but every time I hear it now I think, "man that drug trip was hosed up as hell", kinda get creeped out, then get over it and just keep jammin to it.

Lacedaemonius
Jan 18, 2015

Rub a dub dub

RBA Starblade posted:

Each part is named after parts of a story! Though Climax sort of jumps the gun. :v:
I don't think so. I'm inclined to believe that it's a double entendre and actually supposed to represent the archetypical highs of sex/drugs. The drug-like nature of the violence makes it (for both the characters and the player) a sort of drug, and we can see their (and our) need for violence is what ends up bringing everything crashing down around us.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Eaten by Tigers posted:

Soundtrack-wise I really liked Fahkeet, even before I got to the final level, but after seeing the ending I still really like it, but every time I hear it now I think, "man that drug trip was hosed up as hell", kinda get creeped out, then get over it and just keep jammin to it.

I completely expected it to be someone's house theme, but the last level's song.

turboraton
Aug 28, 2011
I just noticed that the Henchman was trippin' on The Son's drugs. He even does a jungle comment.

GLAAD trash bags
Jan 4, 2015

RBA Starblade posted:

Each part is named after parts of a story! Though Climax sort of jumps the gun. :v:

Well Climax ends with both the end of The Fans' and the Son's stories, and they're both the real driving force of the "modern day" story
(Nobody cares about Manny at the end and Evan's story ends like, the first mission of the next act, he gets over his obsession or doesn't)
The rest of the characters are all flashbacks to before the events of the first game and kinda fit the falling action/resolution part of the story by tying up loose ends.

Count Mippipopolous
Apr 10, 2008

I just assumed Richard in this game was some kind of surreal, supernatural David Lynch-esque thing? He's a creepy and inexplicable figure and also a warning of terrible things to come.

I'm always confused when people argue over the nature of surreal elements of stories. Trying to explain him as a ghost, a magical shared hallucination, or some sort of demon dad doesn't really add anything. None of those things are real and there is no real world logic associated with them. He's a talking Rooster head that does impossible things.

I guess it's worth noting that this is different from my impression of him in the first game - I figured that Richard, Don Juan, and Rasmus were just ego, super ego, and id type elements of Jacket's mind.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?
I found a glitch, did a thing, got a trophy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPGnsj1hAQ0

A glitch on First Trial makes the enemies on the first floor not attack you

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PantsandCola
Aug 17, 2013

you did good... you did good
Alpha version of the editor has been leaked or something.

(pic not mine)

PantsandCola fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Mar 17, 2015

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