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May 7, 2015 02:19
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jarofpiss posted:my discussions irl have gone the direction of if you agree with this dude and would like to see him in the white house, who gives a poo poo about the odds. it's not like these people are presenting some sort of alternative to voting for him in the primary (other than not doing anything at all i guess). it's literally a "there's no chance he wins so what's the point" kind of attitude and i'm focusing on rallying them around there being literally no downside to pulling for him. nonvoters on the left are morons, plain and simple. they're doing nothing to fix anything, and they have no plans to change that. they literally think that not voting is the best thing they can do. as if the democratic party will look at their not-having-voted and think "gosh, if only we could've reached out to that thoughtful young man. well we better change our corrupt ways since it hurts our feelings so much when cool customers like him don't vote"! basically i regard these people as apolitical, and too uninformed about political issues to ever get into it. their understanding of politics is about as deep as the lyrics in "Evil Empire" by Rage Against the Machine. you can sort those people out from the really disillusioned people who actually know what they're talking about because the latter, when given a candidate who actually meets 95% of their goalposts, are willing to fight for that candidate
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May 7, 2015 02:19
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so we could design and get our own merch together? are there regulations about donations raised through that kind of thing? like would it count toward my personal contribution or are there limits or anything?
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May 7, 2015 02:20
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Robert from New York, lady keeps interrupting him and he doesn't understand what she is saying. Wants stuff to make fliers so we can get this revolution going.
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May 7, 2015 02:20
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Zev posted:Robert from New York, lady keeps interrupting him and he doesn't understand what she is saying. Wants stuff to make fliers so we can get this revolution going. Tell him all you need to make fliers is some paper and a printer/copier
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May 7, 2015 02:21
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jarofpiss posted:so we could design and get our own merch together? are there regulations about donations raised through that kind of thing? like would it count toward my personal contribution or are there limits or anything? if you ran into actual trouble it would just be positive press for the bernie sanders campaign for your grass roots merch
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May 7, 2015 02:22
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SC campaign is first southern primary. O'mally and Bernie have visited. Wants other local states to pitch in to help out with the primaries.
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May 7, 2015 02:22
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Can someone sell literal grass roots for Bernie? That could definitely go viral then next thing you know Bernie is Supreme Emperor of Earth!
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May 7, 2015 02:23
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Wendy calling in, first time organizer for any politician. How are we going to fit into bernie's official grassroots movement. Encourage everyone to sign up, but we are to be the campaign where there is none. Bernie has to concentrate on primary states. Poll: do you want to organize with us? 1 yes 2 maybe 3 for no
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May 7, 2015 02:26
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63 for 11 on the fence, none against.
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May 7, 2015 02:27
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Jack: thanks for being on the call. We appreciate your presence. Want to work with you going forward. Call over, will continue and give people a soapbox until we are tuckered out.
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May 7, 2015 02:29
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The Whole Internet posted:nonvoters on the left are morons, plain and simple. they're doing nothing to fix anything, and they have no plans to change that. they literally think that not voting is the best thing they can do. as if the democratic party will look at their not-having-voted and think "gosh, if only we could've reached out to that thoughtful young man. well we better change our corrupt ways since it hurts our feelings so much when cool customers like him don't vote"! basically i regard these people as apolitical, and too uninformed about political issues to ever get into it. their understanding of politics is about as deep as the lyrics in "Evil Empire" by Rage Against the Machine. I see a lot of that but we are just in the beginning of this. I see a lot of potential in my generation and a cool thing about Bernie is he kinda reaches across partisan lines for actual real live people and not slimy politicians.
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May 7, 2015 02:33
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May 7, 2015 02:34
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Turbl posted:there is a guide on the bernie sanders reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/347kp9/you_want_sanders_but_will_you_be_able_to_vote_for/ Looks like I'll have to switch my registration to Democrat
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May 7, 2015 02:34
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spacemang_spliff posted:Looks like I'll have to switch my registration to Democrat it feels gross but if bernie will do it then so can i
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May 7, 2015 02:38
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spacemang_spliff posted:Looks like I'll have to switch my registration to Democrat Yea, just switch back after it's all said and done.
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May 7, 2015 02:38
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yeah this is a good article, pro-read
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May 7, 2015 02:39
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Honestly, conference call was kinda average. Certainly have been through much worse. They'll find their footing a a month or two.
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May 7, 2015 02:43
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The Whole Internet posted:nonvoters on the left are morons, plain and simple. they're doing nothing to fix anything, and they have no plans to change that. they literally think that not voting is the best thing they can do. as if the democratic party will look at their not-having-voted and think "gosh, if only we could've reached out to that thoughtful young man. well we better change our corrupt ways since it hurts our feelings so much when cool customers like him don't vote"! basically i regard these people as apolitical, and too uninformed about political issues to ever get into it. their understanding of politics is about as deep as the lyrics in "Evil Empire" by Rage Against the Machine. I get what your saying but what about someone like me who lives in KS. There is a 0% chance that Sanders will win KS, so voting for him doesn't really matter. Donating so that he can be more competitive in a swing state will have a much much bigger impact than an actual vote. Same for voting in our state caucus. I still vote because of local elections, but in 2012 there was no difference between voting for Obama and voting for Batman.
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May 7, 2015 02:43
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making a rare post for bernie. thank you for the conference call info. i didn't see this article posted: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/06/bernie-sanders-campaign_n_7224630.html It says that they raised $3 million in the first four days; that's thursday to sunday, correct? the article also mentions that the campaign has hired a few people who worked on obama's 2008 campaign.
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May 7, 2015 02:44
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TEAYCHES posted:yeah this is a good article, pro-read Anyone else have anymore good poo poo?
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May 7, 2015 02:44
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Haze Thank Liberty posted:making a rare post for bernie. thank you for the conference call info. i'm keeping my fingers crossed that we see those donations keep pace as he gains more exposure that isn't dismissing him as a hopeless kook.
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May 7, 2015 02:47
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jarofpiss posted:i'm keeping my fingers crossed that we see those donations keep pace as he gains more exposure that isn't dismissing him as a hopeless kook. That would be, what? 130 mil? How much does he need?
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May 7, 2015 02:49
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spacemang_spliff posted:I get what your saying but what about someone like me who lives in KS. There is a 0% chance that Sanders will win KS, so voting for him doesn't really matter. Donating so that he can be more competitive in a swing state will have a much much bigger impact than an actual vote. Same for voting in our state caucus. I still vote because of local elections, but in 2012 there was no difference between voting for Obama and voting for Batman. In the general your vote is meaningless, in the primaries it is not. People in Kansas have been conditioned to hate Hillary by Fox News for many years. They probably have less of an opinion about Sanders.
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May 7, 2015 02:50
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The Whole Internet posted:In the general your vote is meaningless, in the primaries it is not. People in Kansas have been conditioned to hate Hillary by Fox News for many years. They probably have less of an opinion about Sanders. They have less of an opinion now, but (assuming he won the nomination) he'd be the democratic nominee for president, they would vote against him out of instinct. I agree apathy is bad but voting isn't the only way to get poo poo done
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May 7, 2015 02:53
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The Whole Internet posted:In the general your vote is meaningless, in the primaries it is not. People in Kansas have been conditioned to hate Hillary by Fox News for many years. They probably have less of an opinion about Sanders. Yea, you kinda have to try everything at the same time as soon as possible. Nobody can tell what tactics will be most effective at this point, so we really have to persuade as many avenues as possible.
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May 7, 2015 02:53
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is it too late to give mister bernie sanders money? 
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Zev posted:That would be, what? 130 mil? How much does he need? To win an election? Probably about a billion.
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May 7, 2015 02:53
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:kucinich was in 2008 as well. i think you're right that there's little chance of sanders winning. but while i think it's safe to say that, it's not so easy to pin down what the potential scope of Sanders' impact on the election is. I agree and there are different ways that success could be measured. Also, in the context of the more recent economic crisis, vs the surge of patriot fistpumping after 9/11, unelectable 10 years ago was very different from unelectable now.
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May 7, 2015 02:54
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Poniard posted:is it too late to give mister bernie sanders money? it's not too late but since you're tardy donate double
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May 7, 2015 02:56
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Poniard posted:is it too late to give mister bernie sanders money? It's never too late 
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May 7, 2015 02:56
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I'm fully sympathetic to the Sanders campaign. If he can focus his message towards Economics and Economic Democracy he will succeed. This might put my dormant Government and Politics degree to good use. The real problem is he needs political ads for broadcast tv, that will be the real challenge.
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May 7, 2015 02:59
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Zev posted:It's never too late Found it!   Lemme scrounge up some more money soon
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May 7, 2015 02:59
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Zev posted:That would be, what? 130 mil? How much does he need? his goal is a mere $50 million before first round primaries
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May 7, 2015 03:00
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Poniard posted:Found it! 
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May 7, 2015 03:00
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Jkid posted:I'm fully sympathetic to the Sanders campaign. If he can focus his message towards Economics and Economic Democracy he will succeed. This might put my dormant Government and Politics degree to good use. The real problem is he needs political ads for broadcast tv, that will be the real challenge. Especially since he has to end his ad buys with: One percent of this country owns 38 percent of the wealth. The bottom 60 percent owns 2.3 percent. We are essentially living in an oligarchy, one that is headed for the edge of the cliff if we do not address the social and economic inequalities that are propelling this downward spiral. How can we ever expect to reclaim the respect and support of the international community when we are starting wars in the name of democracy? When in our own country we are handing out $285 million-dollar severance packages while millions of Americans, even with the Affordable Care Act, remained uninsured? I’m telling you, the warning signs are here, and we must act. My name is Bernie Sanders and I approve this message.
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May 7, 2015 03:01
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Poniard posted:Found it! 
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Poniard posted:Found it! Added to the op! Thanks for being so awesome! 
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