How are you going to vote on May 7th? This poll is closed. |
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Conservative | 72 | 6.22% | |
Labour | 410 | 35.41% | |
Liberal Democrat | 46 | 3.97% | |
UKIP | 69 | 5.96% | |
Green | 199 | 17.18% | |
SNP | 121 | 10.45% | |
DUP | 0 | 0% | |
Sinn Fein | 35 | 3.02% | |
Plaid Cymru | 20 | 1.73% | |
Respect | 3 | 0.26% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 56 | 4.84% | |
BNP | 23 | 1.99% | |
Some flavour of socialist party | 37 | 3.20% | |
Some flavour of communist party | 27 | 2.33% | |
Independent | 3 | 0.26% | |
Other | 37 | 3.20% | |
Total: | 1158 votes |
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forkboy84 posted:Boundary reform which is going to strongly favour the Tories, plus Cameron has said he'll step down so Boris Johnson as Tory leader, and the fact that right now people have no idea how Labour can both appeal to middle England while also appealing to the base in the north of England which is abandoning them, and to their former Scottish base which already has abandoned them. They could try being a genuinely left-wing alternative that offers positive answers instead of just saying "We'll do what the Tories are doing, but a little slower". It'll never happen though.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:12 |
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quote:It has been alleged that Nigel Farage never formally resigned from Ukip as part of what party sources have told the Spectator was a stitch up to avoid a leadership contest. The fix was in from the start.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:13 |
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SNAKES N CAKES posted:The fix was in from the start. My God, I'm so surprised!
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:15 |
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RE: Boundary reform It's worth noting that traditionally Labour has benefited from the current boundaries. If you squint at this map you can see that until the last election in general the Conservatives had a significantly less efficient rate of voter-->seat conversion. That's not to say that these changes will necessarily be good or even particularly fair, but the current situation is not necessarily in the Tories' favour.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:16 |
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It's almost like FPTP is a bad system.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:18 |
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OwlFancier posted:It's almost like FPTP is a bad system. He needs a new kevlar incubator, not a new voting system.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:19 |
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OwlFancier posted:It's almost like FPTP is a bad system. Yeah, it exacerbates these weird situations with "efficient" voter density. I'm assuming the switch around in the last election is due to the number of seats Labour lost in Scotland (as those seats are very efficient) + narrow losses in the UK.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:21 |
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SurrealityCheck posted:RE: Boundary reform Note Traditionally. By far worst offenders are in Scotland, then Wales and Northern Ireland. It does need to be fixed as the disparity is a joke - e.g. Isle of Wight has one MP for ~120,000 people while their are 2 MP's for Scottish isles that have less than 20,000 people in their constituencies. Wonder how many seats SNP would lose if they end up making all seats equal size, there could well be less than 40 seats total in Scotland once the changes happen.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:24 |
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WMain00 posted:To all scot goons in thread, can anyone shed light on how liveable Gorgie is? Got a flat offer for a 1 bedroom place just at the start of Gorgie up the road from Tynecastle and i'm trying to gauge the area. I'm not a big fan of Gorgie personally. It was an area I have tended to rule out in flathunting. I did look at one 2 mins up the road from Tynecastle going towards before moving the last time and it was something of a dump, fag ends over the window sills and very little in the way of amenities in the local area. Totally depends on what your budget is really. On the cheaper without being rough and dodgy side of things: I like Clermiston and Corstorphine a lot personally and really liked it when I lived out that way. Murrayfield/Haymarket area is fine though you'd get less for your money. I looked at some really nice 1 bed flats out at Abbeyhill as well. Slateford is not the most exciting area but has most everything one would need. A little further out at Kingsknowe I saw some nice flats that were good value for money. Places I personally would avoid when flathunting: Gorgie, Sighthill, Pilton, Muirhouse, Leith, Niddrie and Craigmillar To be fair to Pilton, I used to live just out of it and it was fine, though others in the area had issues. There's been a lot of new building going on there around Fettes though that would probably all be fine. I used to avoid Dalry as well, though to be fair it seems to have improved massively in the ten years since I first lived in Edinburgh. Is there a particular area of the city you would want to be handy for for work or anything? Scotpol thread tends to be a bit slower moving so you might get more recommendations there.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:27 |
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What do we know about Kier Starmer? I like the idea of a brand new mp as leader so the Tories can attack him based on inexperience and accidentally strengthen his position as an outsider.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:27 |
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happyhippy posted:I want to see the initial reactions of world leaders when they hear Boris is the new leader. He's as cold hearted a Tory bastard as they come, world leaders will love him.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:29 |
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tooterfish posted:You realise it's all a massive act right? He's been caught mussing up his hair before going on camera before now. And he tried to have that journalists beaten up.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:33 |
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Phoon posted:What do we know about Kier Starmer? I like the idea of a brand new mp as leader so the Tories can attack him based on inexperience and accidentally strengthen his position as an outsider. Given that MPs deal with the law it's going to be hard to portray the former Direct of Public Prosecutions as inexperienced. Or soft on crime. And he wasn't an MP during either Brown or Blair. The more I think about it the more he seems like the best candidate for leader.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:34 |
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tooterfish posted:You realise it's all a massive act right? He's been caught mussing up his hair before going on camera before now. I remember on Election night, the Beeb filmed him arriving at his announcement place with hair that is normal for him, then hours later his hair was a totally over-the-top ridiculous mess despite him having been inside a building that whole time. Dimbleby actually mentioned it.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:36 |
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There is an argument that Dubya deliberately played the idiot to endear himself to voters as humble and down to earth. Wouldn't be surprised if Boris was doing the same – in reality, he's incredibly intelligent.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:39 |
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Hm, I dunno about the outing theory. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/13/quiet-revolution-britain-more-gay-mps-than-anywhere-else-lgbt Is a pretty good article going over some of the history of being gay in public life. They make the point that the last time the Sun tried a big OH MY GOD SOME PEOPLE ARE GAY smear campaign it basically completely failed to get any traction. The most recent fight over an MP being gay (at least as far as I can remember) was about Crispin Blunt and he won the vote of his (mega-Tory) Surrey constituency by something like 80%. I'm just not sure it's a big enough deal for anyone to care. Though I'm going to be proven wrong at the weekend aren't I
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:43 |
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TinTower posted:Wouldn't be surprised if Boris was doing the same – in reality, he's incredibly intelligent. Ian Hislop: quote:people always ask me the same question, they say, 'Is Boris a very very clever man pretending to be an idiot?' And I always say, 'No.'
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:44 |
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Given that MPs deal with the law it's going to be hard to portray the former Direct of Public Prosecutions as inexperienced. Or soft on crime. And he wasn't an MP during either Brown or Blair. That's what I mean he has the perfect mix of "political inexperience" (not tainted by previous governments) and "actual experience"
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:45 |
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If the BBC ends up being ultimately responsible for PM Johnson maybe it's for the best that we shut it down before it does anything worse.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:46 |
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Nobody is that good at acting.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:47 |
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Phoon posted:That's what I mean he has the perfect mix of "political inexperience" (not tainted by previous governments) and "actual experience" Yeah. The complete opposite of when Ed was asked by a young voter what he'd done outside of politics and started his answer with how he lectured (in politics) at Harvard
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:49 |
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tooterfish posted:You realise it's all a massive act right? He's been caught mussing up his hair before going on camera before now. They would love him as they would eat him alive. Can't see Boris doing any serious diplomacy or making any big decisions at all.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:52 |
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edit: never mind, rumours are dumb anyway
Zephro fucked around with this message at 17:10 on May 15, 2015 |
# ? May 15, 2015 16:52 |
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who actually gives a gently caress if britbama is gay or not
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:55 |
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weird toppings guy posted:who actually gives a gently caress if britbama is gay or not The Sun.
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# ? May 15, 2015 16:59 |
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OwlFancier posted:The Sun. i completely forgot that the sun existed until then, thanks also the sooner labour distances itself from the unions the better off it will be, CWU demanding that Jim Murphy resigns as leader of ScotLab is dumb as hell and only further provide instability for a party that changes it's leaders more than Farage changes his mind
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:00 |
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TinTower posted:Wouldn't be surprised if Boris was doing the same – in reality, he's incredibly intelligent.
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:01 |
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weird toppings guy posted:i completely forgot that the sun existed until then, thanks lolwut Murphy is absolutely toxic for Scotlab, they need to get rid asap.
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:02 |
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Coohoolin posted:lolwut Murphy is absolutely toxic for Scotlab, they need to get rid asap. implying that scotlab isn't toxic as hell at the moment anyway, stability is what they need, another leadership change in their rapidly dwindling member pool isn't exactly great for the party
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:04 |
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weird toppings guy posted:britbama The Fresh Prince of Belgravia
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:04 |
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:The Fresh Prince of Belgravia
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:05 |
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weird toppings guy posted:implying that scotlab isn't toxic as hell at the moment anyway, stability is what they need, another leadership change in their rapidly dwindling member pool isn't exactly great for the party Corpses are in stable condition. Seriously, Murphy has been loving disastrous for the party, and I honestly can't see how getting rid of him could tank their support even faster than he's already doing.
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:07 |
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weird toppings guy posted:
Lmao, CWU is completely right. Murphy was already toxic during the election, now he's just a heaping helping of polonium. Of course he needs to go.
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:08 |
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Acaila posted:I'm not a big fan of Gorgie personally. It was an area I have tended to rule out in flathunting. I did look at one 2 mins up the road from Tynecastle going towards before moving the last time and it was something of a dump, fag ends over the window sills and very little in the way of amenities in the local area. I am surprised that you think Slateford has more amenities than Gorgie. There's actual shops and stuff lining Gorgie Road and you can get from there to anywhere on the ridiculous number of buses that go through there. There's loads of nice flats on the side streets. Slateford has pretty much nothing from the brewery all the way up to the Asda, and that's pretty much Chesser and not Slateford despite the railway station claiming otherwise.
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:08 |
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Semprini posted:Ian Hislop: Hislop can gently caress off. It's his fault that he gained such a big profile.
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:11 |
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No point keeping Murphy they need a whole new approach its not like they have anything to lose
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:11 |
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Phoon posted:No point keeping Murphy they need a whole new approach its not like they have anything to lose woah they do have that one seat. Can't risk that.
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:19 |
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I don't know how terrible the Tories are until I have some context on what policies they currently vouch for. Same goes for Boris.
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:21 |
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Grouchio posted:I don't know how terrible the Tories are until I have some context on what policies they currently vouch for. 'For too long, we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our citizens 'as long as you obey the law, we will leave you alone' he proposes that the rights of any individual would depend on whether they were a British citizen (full fundamental rights), an EU national (fewer rights) or a foreigner (even fewer rights).
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:32 |
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OwlFancier posted:It's almost like FPTP is a bad system. Stopped UKIP. Ergo it's a good system.
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# ? May 15, 2015 17:36 |