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kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

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axeil
Feb 14, 2006

Vengarr posted:

As someone who was not fully sentient at the time, what was the problem with the '94 World Cup that makes it so America can never host it ever again

denim uniforms




also we made fifa pay for mls i think.

Your Boy Fancy
Feb 7, 2003

by Cyrano4747
It's easy to hate America. They hate us 'cause they ain't us *flies off in jetpack*

Scapegoat
Sep 18, 2004

Vengarr posted:

As someone who was not fully sentient at the time, what was the problem with the '94 World Cup that makes it so America can never host it ever again

American broadcasters wanted to split the game into quarters for more add breaks.

Poonior Toilett
Aug 21, 2004

m'lady

Scapegoat posted:

American broadcasters wanted to split the game into quarters for more add breaks.

did they

Reprisal
Jul 20, 2001
Yeah, I remember that being a thing. The '94 world cup was the first time i can ever remember watching a broadcast in America that wasn't interrupted after 7 minutes. Was kinda amazing at the time.

Blue Star Error
Jun 11, 2001

For this recipie you will need:
Football match (Halftime of), Celebrity Owner (Motivational speaking of), Sherry (Bottle of)

Spangly A posted:

Everyone realises that Sepp Blatter cutting and running when the Americans came for him was always happening right?

I've noticed that you're very good at predicting things that have happened in the past

Nill
Aug 24, 2003

One element to consider is that the sheer scale and majesty of our great nation may be unsettling to visiting fans.
(holding matches on opposite sides of a continent is loving crazy)

As a solution I propose hosting the next "US" World Cup entirely within the Great State of Texas whose obscene number of pre-existing, high capacity (american) football stadiums could service the whole event as-is.

Eifert Posting
Apr 1, 2007

Most of the time he catches it every time.
Grimey Drawer
Cool.



That's cool.


I enjoyed reading about this.

4 inch cut no femmes
May 31, 2011

Qatar posted:

An article in the Washington Post on 27 May ("The Human Toll of FIFA’s Corruption") claimed that 4,000 workers are likely to die while working on World Cup sites, and that some 1,200 had already lost their lives. This is completely untrue. In fact, after almost five million work-hours on World Cup construction sites, not a single worker’s life has been lost. Not one.

Quatar was innocent the whole time

bloodsacrifice
Apr 21, 2015

by Ralp
Well yea they're slaves not workers, barely even people.

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008

Humphrey Vasel posted:

Quatar was innocent the whole time

So was OJ

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
* Individuals building the stadiums are independent contractors, not workers. Qatar assumes no responsibility for the well-being of those not under its employ.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

tbp posted:

Whoa - watch the racism. We don't talk like that here, buddy.
In D&D that would get you a mod star.

Shrapnig posted:

In a shocking twist the CAF is awarded zero spots for the Nuovo Italia World Cup
Two nights before the opener all of their national teams show up on boats and ask if they can play.

Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Jun 3, 2015

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




But on the bright side, moving the World Cup from Qatar will entirely solve the migrant worker abuse issue.

bloodsacrifice
Apr 21, 2015

by Ralp

MikeJF posted:

But on the bright side, moving the World Cup from Qatar will entirely solve the migrant worker abuse issue.

I think its a good thing outside scrutiny has made Qatar clean up its act in regards to murder and slavery.

4 inch cut no femmes
May 31, 2011

more Quatar posted:

We would urge Mr Dyke to let the legal process take its course and concentrate on delivering his promise to build an England team capable of winning the 2022 Fifa World Cup in Qatar.

poo poo son

http://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2015/jun/03/sepp-blatter-reports-fifa-president-us-corruption-probe-live for more unless you hate the Guardian for being owned by murdoch or something

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Vengarr posted:

As someone who was not fully sentient at the time, what was the problem with the '94 World Cup that makes it so America can never host it ever again
It set a record for attendance and made Euro soccer fans mad because dumb yanks don't care about the beautiful game or something.

Koesj
Aug 3, 2003
A reminder that the cool & good non-World Cup organizing but Man City owning Abu Dhabi ruling family had one of its members run over an 'employee' with his SUV and shooting at the dude with an assault rifle. This was captured on video. Also, their figurehead president is a closeted homo and has mysteriously been held in an artificial coma for more than a year now while his brother hobnobs with the world's most powerful; a leaked US embassy cable calling him the shadow leader of the country or something. No one openly acknowledges these things.

2022 would be in better hands with Iran than with Gulf Arabs.

Ciprian Maricon
Feb 27, 2006



There is more to a world cup than attendance.

Imagine making the once in a life journey to see a world cup only to end up traversing the massive breath of the united states to end up at a shithole like Orlando or god forbid, Detroit.

People had to actually go to Detroit, what a terrible thing to do to a human being.

Blue Star Error
Jun 11, 2001

For this recipie you will need:
Football match (Halftime of), Celebrity Owner (Motivational speaking of), Sherry (Bottle of)

Koesj posted:

2022 would be in better hands with Iran than with Gulf Arabs.

Unless they steal something

bloodsacrifice
Apr 21, 2015

by Ralp
or one of the players comes out as a gay dude

Koesj
Aug 3, 2003

Blue Star Error posted:

Unless they steal something

lol

All those thing equally apply on the other side of the gulf tho. Probably the only majority muslim place outside major european cities where the cup should be held is turkey, they're the knifest people.

PerpetualSelf
Apr 6, 2015

by Ralp
Ok here's a idea.

Weight voting so that only the top 10 teams based on ranking from each federation get a full vote.

Everyone else get's their votes cut. 10-20 get half a vote. 20-30 get a quarter vote. 30-40 get 1/8th vote. 40+ get 1/10th vote. Total votes are rounded up.

UEFA = 19 Votes
Conmebol = 10 Votes
Concacaf = 19 Votes
CAF = 19 Votes
AFC = 19 Votes
OFC = 11 Votes


15+2.5+1.25+1

Weighted Vote for Blatter vs Ali

Ali = 30
Blatter = 53

Voting is further weighted by combined ranking of top 3 teams in each federation. The top 2 federations keep same amount of votes. 3rd and 4th lose 2 votes. 5th loses 4 votes. 6th loses 6 votes.

UEFA = 19 Votes
Conmebol = 10 Votes
Concacaf = 17 votes
AFC = 17 Votes
CAF = 15 Votes
OFC = 5 Votes

Ali = 38
Blatter = 45

Voting is finally weighted by population to ranking ratio. The federation with the highest population to rank ratio receives 3 extra votes. The federation with the second receives 2 extra votes. All other federation are penalized 1 point. These are rewarded to the countries with the lowest population to ranking ratio.

Uefa = 21 Votes
Conmebol = 13 Votes
Concacaf = 16 Votes
AFC = 16 Votes
CAF = 14 Votes
OFC = 4 Votes

Ali = 41
Blatter = 43

bawfuls
Oct 28, 2009

Ciprian Maricon posted:

People had to actually go to Detroit, what a terrible thing to do to a human being.
this is a fair criticism

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

bawfuls posted:

It set a record for attendance and made Euro soccer fans mad because dumb yanks don't care about the beautiful game or something.
Seriouspost: the fundamental problem with having the World Cup in the United States is that you're spreading it across an area the size of Continental Europe. If memory serves me correctly, in 1994 no such considerations were made for this and teams would have to travel a thousand miles or more for games in the group stage. No doubt that would have been a burden on traveling supporters too.

If the U.S. was to host it again, it would be far better to stage it in such a way so that the groups were concentrated in regions so that teams didn't have to travel for more than a few hundred miles for their games at the start. Obviously once you hit the knockout stages anything goes, but doing everything possible to help reduce the travel load on the players, and the fans, would be a good thing.

Polidoro
Jan 5, 2011


Huevo se dice argidia. Argidia!

PerpetualSelf posted:

Ok here's a idea.

Weight voting so that only the top 10 teams based on ranking from each federation get a full vote.

Everyone else get's their votes cut. 10-20 get half a vote. 20-30 get a quarter vote. 30-40 get 1/8th vote. 40+ get 1/10th vote. Total votes are rounded up.

UEFA = 19 Votes
Conmebol = 10 Votes
Concacaf = 19 Votes
CAF = 19 Votes
AFC = 19 Votes
OFC = 11 Votes


15+2.5+1.25+1

Weighted Vote for Blatter vs Ali

Ali = 30
Blatter = 53

Voting is further weighted by combined ranking of top 3 teams in each federation. The top 2 federations keep same amount of votes. 3rd and 4th lose 2 votes. 5th loses 4 votes. 6th loses 6 votes.

UEFA = 19 Votes
Conmebol = 10 Votes
Concacaf = 17 votes
AFC = 17 Votes
CAF = 15 Votes
OFC = 5 Votes

Ali = 38
Blatter = 45

Voting is finally weighted by population to ranking ratio. The federation with the highest population to rank ratio receives 3 extra votes. The federation with the second receives 2 extra votes. All other federation are penalized 1 point. These are rewarded to the countries with the lowest population to ranking ratio.

Uefa = 21 Votes
Conmebol = 13 Votes
Concacaf = 16 Votes
AFC = 16 Votes
CAF = 14 Votes
OFC = 4 Votes

Ali = 41
Blatter = 43

LOOK AT THIS loving POST!!!

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012

Crazy Ted posted:

Seriouspost: the fundamental problem with having the World Cup in the United States is that you're spreading it across an area the size of Continental Europe. If memory serves me correctly, in 1994 no such considerations were made for this and teams would have to travel a thousand miles or more for games in the group stage. No doubt that would have been a burden on traveling supporters too.

If the U.S. was to host it again, it would be far better to stage it in such a way so that the groups were concentrated in regions so that teams didn't have to travel for more than a few hundred miles for their games at the start. Obviously once you hit the knockout stages anything goes, but doing everything possible to help reduce the travel load on the players, and the fans, would be a good thing.

Brazil is larger than the continental US. Manaus-Porto Alegre are farther apart than Atlanta-LA.

Sneaks McDevious
Jul 29, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Gas this thread

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

Polidoro posted:

LOOK AT THIS loving POST!!!

Advanced stats are insanely good op

Bogan Krkic
Oct 31, 2010

Swedish style? No.
Yugoslavian style? Of course not.
It has to be Zlatan-style.

I think the best part of those advanced stats is that at no point do they change anything at all

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Ciprian Maricon posted:

There is more to a world cup than attendance.

Imagine making the once in a life journey to see a world cup only to end up traversing the massive breath of the united states to end up at a shithole like Orlando or god forbid, Detroit.

People had to actually go to Detroit, what a terrible thing to do to a human being.

Yeah but you can just hop across to Windsor for strippers and casinos and meth.

4 inch cut no femmes
May 31, 2011

julian assflange posted:

Gas this thread

The thread should be gassed when Blatter officially steps down imo.

Koesj
Aug 3, 2003

PerpetualSelf posted:

Ok here's a idea.

Weight voting so that only the top 10 teams based on ranking from each federation get a full vote.

Everyone else get's their votes cut. 10-20 get half a vote. 20-30 get a quarter vote. 30-40 get 1/8th vote. 40+ get 1/10th vote. Total votes are rounded up.

UEFA = 19 Votes
Conmebol = 10 Votes
Concacaf = 19 Votes
CAF = 19 Votes
AFC = 19 Votes
OFC = 11 Votes


15+2.5+1.25+1

Weighted Vote for Blatter vs Ali

Ali = 30
Blatter = 53

Voting is further weighted by combined ranking of top 3 teams in each federation. The top 2 federations keep same amount of votes. 3rd and 4th lose 2 votes. 5th loses 4 votes. 6th loses 6 votes.

UEFA = 19 Votes
Conmebol = 10 Votes
Concacaf = 17 votes
AFC = 17 Votes
CAF = 15 Votes
OFC = 5 Votes

Ali = 38
Blatter = 45

Voting is finally weighted by population to ranking ratio. The federation with the highest population to rank ratio receives 3 extra votes. The federation with the second receives 2 extra votes. All other federation are penalized 1 point. These are rewarded to the countries with the lowest population to ranking ratio.

Uefa = 21 Votes
Conmebol = 13 Votes
Concacaf = 16 Votes
AFC = 16 Votes
CAF = 14 Votes
OFC = 4 Votes

Ali = 41
Blatter = 43

source

your

quotes

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

PerpetualSelf posted:

Ok here's a idea.

Weight voting so that only the top 10 teams based on ranking from each federation get a full vote.

Everyone else get's their votes cut. 10-20 get half a vote. 20-30 get a quarter vote. 30-40 get 1/8th vote. 40+ get 1/10th vote. Total votes are rounded up.

UEFA = 19 Votes
Conmebol = 10 Votes
Concacaf = 19 Votes
CAF = 19 Votes
AFC = 19 Votes
OFC = 11 Votes


15+2.5+1.25+1

Weighted Vote for Blatter vs Ali

Ali = 30
Blatter = 53

Voting is further weighted by combined ranking of top 3 teams in each federation. The top 2 federations keep same amount of votes. 3rd and 4th lose 2 votes. 5th loses 4 votes. 6th loses 6 votes.

UEFA = 19 Votes
Conmebol = 10 Votes
Concacaf = 17 votes
AFC = 17 Votes
CAF = 15 Votes
OFC = 5 Votes

Ali = 38
Blatter = 45

Voting is finally weighted by population to ranking ratio. The federation with the highest population to rank ratio receives 3 extra votes. The federation with the second receives 2 extra votes. All other federation are penalized 1 point. These are rewarded to the countries with the lowest population to ranking ratio.

Uefa = 21 Votes
Conmebol = 13 Votes
Concacaf = 16 Votes
AFC = 16 Votes
CAF = 14 Votes
OFC = 4 Votes

Ali = 41
Blatter = 43

Holy poo poo.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack
I 'm a progressive guy, I watch MSNBC and think concussions are real bad, and I eat kale, but hear me out, I want USA to host cause it would be cool if thousands or millions of our migrant workers were killed or at least maimed. There are just too many of them.

Kwagga
Jun 11, 2002

I am small

PerpetualSelf posted:

Ok here's a idea.

Weight voting so that only the top 10 teams based on ranking from each federation get a full vote.

Everyone else get's their votes cut. 10-20 get half a vote. 20-30 get a quarter vote. 30-40 get 1/8th vote. 40+ get 1/10th vote. Total votes are rounded up.

UEFA = 19 Votes
Conmebol = 10 Votes
Concacaf = 19 Votes
CAF = 19 Votes
AFC = 19 Votes
OFC = 11 Votes


15+2.5+1.25+1

Weighted Vote for Blatter vs Ali

Ali = 30
Blatter = 53

Voting is further weighted by combined ranking of top 3 teams in each federation. The top 2 federations keep same amount of votes. 3rd and 4th lose 2 votes. 5th loses 4 votes. 6th loses 6 votes.

UEFA = 19 Votes
Conmebol = 10 Votes
Concacaf = 17 votes
AFC = 17 Votes
CAF = 15 Votes
OFC = 5 Votes

Ali = 38
Blatter = 45

Voting is finally weighted by population to ranking ratio. The federation with the highest population to rank ratio receives 3 extra votes. The federation with the second receives 2 extra votes. All other federation are penalized 1 point. These are rewarded to the countries with the lowest population to ranking ratio.

Uefa = 21 Votes
Conmebol = 13 Votes
Concacaf = 16 Votes
AFC = 16 Votes
CAF = 14 Votes
OFC = 4 Votes

Ali = 41
Blatter = 43

Lol

corn in the fridge
Jan 15, 2012

by Shine

axeil posted:

denim uniforms



i still have one of these i think

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
The 1990's were a strange time. Most things featured denim or dayglo colors. The 1994 World Cup was not immune to this illness, regardless of where it was held.

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Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

corn in the fridge posted:

i still have one of these i think

they're worth a good amount now

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