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mlmp08 posted:Lack of humor due to hard science degree spotted! Oof, sorry. Did not hear the sarcasm klaxon. (sarklaxon?) I am not a STEMLord, I promise.
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Feather posted:I think the only person in this race who (probably) isn't violating campaign finance laws is Bernie Sanders. Between coordination with SuperPACs, outright campaign finance fraud, and the greedy, sleazy character of the typical republican candidate, basically everybody, including Hillary, is guilty of some infraction or other. Bernie already violated campaign finance laws as soon as he launched his campaign. He had Ben and Jerry's donate staff and ice cream, which are in-kind political contributions, and did not report them.
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Jun 9, 2015 20:39
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Bernie already violated campaign finance laws as soon as he launched his campaign. He had Ben and Jerry's donate staff and ice cream, which are in-kind political contributions, and did not report them. Any more coverage of this? Also, is there some timeframe within which you're supposed to report that he's exceeded?
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Also, is there some timeframe within which you're supposed to report that he's exceeded? He has until the end of this month, since campaign filings with the FEC are done quarterly.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Breittbart Primary! From yesterday: Voted for Pataki, Fiorina, and Trump. Current results: Cruz - 31% Walker - 24% Paul - 13% Carson - 6% Perry - 5%
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Jun 9, 2015 21:05
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VitalSigns posted:I would prefer more Republicans posting here, personally, as long as they brought good arguments and actually looked at information that was posted for longer than it takes to go "nuh-uh" The 30 days of MIGF being probated has caused other shitposters to try and pick up his slack. It's also going to be harder to find Republicans posting not-insane things here because people who would've been fine saying "yeah I'm a Republican" in 2000 are probably considered to be to the left of Obama at this point. Pre-911 most Republicans I knew would've seen poo poo like the NHS/NSA metadata collection, or the PATRIOT Act in its entirety, as loving insanity. Gravel Gravy posted:Nobody goes to Iowa for BBQ. The pork looks like your standard cheap catering. At an actual pig roast it's simply not possible to have pork like that unless you're actively trying to gently caress it up. Hell my uncle had a full pig roast for my cousin's 1st or 2nd birthday years ago and IIRC it was the first time he'd ever done something like that. His method was literally "use a bigass brush to cover the thing in sauce. When you cut some meat off grab the brush and cover the cut area with more sauce" and it was pretty loving good. I really want some BBQ now.  TheDisreputableDog posted:It's especially egregious when you look at how the "dead broke" post-Executive Clintons bootstrapped themselves back to solvency in a completely ethical way. It's hard not to make yourself solvent when you're a former president who can easily command hundreds of thousands of dollars as a guest speaker and demand for you as a speaker is as high as it was for Bill... though I should probably translate this in to rightwingese for you: VINCE FOSTER PERJURY WHITEWATER SELLING SECRETS TO CHINA!  But yeah I'm sure the Clintons got rich through entirely evil methods, just like how it's signs of their evil corruption that their foundation accepts donations from other countries which means it's clearly got some FIFA-grade corruption going on. Thankfully we have Fox News to deliver us this truthiness. Pohl posted:I'm not sure you can completely dismiss his (Rubio's) personal finances, including his student loan trouble, when he is running on a platform that is Personal Responsibility 101. If anything, he should understand how people struggle, but he found a sugar daddy and now everyone else in the country needs to step up and work harder to reach their potential. I guess since I don't have a sugar daddy I'm letting the country down and being lazy. Do you think Rubio's better or worse than Paul Ryan in this regard? I think Paul Ryan's still got the gold since he mentioned being a goddan RATM fan in addition to his wanting to gut programs that made it possible for him to get where he is today.
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Jun 9, 2015 21:24
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Bernie's weekend highlights video includes: a drum circle, a white guy with dreadlocks, a giant cow mural, and a John Deere tractor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHTtYc-1SWA
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Next pic: Warren walking three steps and dumping them into a flaming barrel.
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Internet Webguy posted:Next pic: Warren walking three steps and dumping them into a flaming barrel. Walking, or..... running?!?!
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Jun 9, 2015 23:36
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Alter Ego posted:Where are his loving lips? They got caught in Charles Koch's fly.
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Jun 9, 2015 23:48
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Only 15 people at the Rick Santorum meet and greet town hall. 
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Was she wearing running shoes though? Or at least something with firm arch support, good for long-tour campaigning?
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Sir Tonk posted:
Is this poll asking who should be president, or who has the doofiest face?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Reminder that until Obama proposed it, it was their standard idea. Jumping WAY BACK but this myth needs to die. It was a proposal from a single moderate Republican that was far, far worse than the PPACA. Romneycare was, yes, passed into law by a republican governor after being written by a democratic legislature with a veto proof majority (IIRC). To bring it up to date, Hillarycare was even more ambitious than the PPACA and Romneycare but was shut down. Seriously, guys. The PPACA isn't perfect but it's the greatest progressive achievement of most of our lifetimes. Own it.
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Great_Gerbil posted:Seriously, guys. The PPACA isn't perfect but it's the greatest progressive achievement of most of our lifetimes Ahahahahaha we're all hosed then.
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Great_Gerbil posted:Seriously, guys. The PPACA isn't perfect but it's the greatest progressive achievement of most of our lifetimes. Own it. I'd more roll with this, but point taken.
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Fix posted:I'd more roll with this, but point taken. I think getting Sotomayor onto the Supreme court, and to a lesser extent Kagan, is a bigger or at least more long-lasting achievement, but yeah that was p. cool.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Do you think Rubio's better or worse than Paul Ryan in this regard? I think Paul Ryan's still got the gold since he mentioned being a goddan RATM fan in addition to his wanting to gut programs that made it possible for him to get where he is today. In Paul Ryan's comparative defense, he seemed to actually listen to Rage, somehow missing all the lyrics, but actually listened. Rubio on the other hand claimed to be into Wu-Tang Clan and then couldn't name a single member. Of Wu-Tang.
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:Not BBQ, but this post reminded me of this. Yeah Perry's last fundraiser at the Pizza Ranch was kinda weird.
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Gyges posted:In Paul Ryan's comparative defense, he seemed to actually listen to Rage, somehow missing all the lyrics, but actually listened. Rubio on the other hand claimed to be into Wu-Tang Clan and then couldn't name a single member. Of Wu-Tang. Did he at least know they ain't nuthing' ta gently caress wit?
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Obdicut posted:Did he at least know they ain't nuthing' ta gently caress wit? Rubio's downfall: not protecting ya neck. withak posted:That plate is a textbook example of traditional Iowan cuisine. The sad part is Iowa's the top hog-producing state. You'd think they'd have mastered the art of figuring out how to cook the drat thing as well.
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Great_Gerbil posted:
The fact that the greatest progressive achievement of our lifetimes was a Republican proposal a decade and a half ago is probably the most damning thing you could say about the Democratic Party.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:The fact that the greatest progressive achievement of our lifetimes was a Republican proposal a decade and a half ago is probably the most damning thing you could say about the Democratic Party. See above: it was not a Republican proposal.
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Gyges posted:In Paul Ryan's comparative defense, he seemed to actually listen to Rage, somehow missing all the lyrics, but actually listened. Rubio on the other hand claimed to be into Wu-Tang Clan and then couldn't name a single member. Of Wu-Tang. Hey, he could have just been trying to protect the secret.
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comes along bort posted:Rubio's downfall: not protecting ya neck. I'm not expecting him to be able to bring da mothafuckin' ruckus.
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The fact that the most popular Democratic candidate killed Vince Foster is probably the most damning thing you could say about the Democratic Party.
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The full clip of that Rubio discussion about hip hop is really worth watching too. He has to school Andrea when she says Biggie was West Coast! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJPgJICk5zQ Too bad Kennedy had the day off. She never would have made that mistake.
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Obdicut posted:See above: it was not a Republican proposal. That article blows off John Chafee's 1993 plan for not very good reasons, which was very similar to ACA. It was a Republican proposal first.
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Obdicut posted:See above: it was not a Republican proposal. See, this isn't actually true, and the above link's bullet-point assertions are devoid of the nuance that represents meaningful "ACA is the Heritage Foundation plan" arguments. Using the "status quo ante" argument by cherry picking and leaving out the nuance of context is essentially saying, "let's just start from the position that my argument is correct and proceed from there." It's intellectually dishonest horse poo poo. Edit: you're effectively ignoring the argument that "PPACA is terrible" does not mean "PPACA doesn't benefit anybody" and arguing against "PPACA doesn't benefit anybody," then patting yourself on the back for "winning." It's gross and stupid. Feather fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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computer parts posted:The fact that the most popular Democratic candidate killed Vince Foster is probably the most damning thing you could say about the Democratic Party. Who?
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Feather posted:See, this isn't actually true, and the above link's bullet-point assertions are devoid of the nuance that represents meaningful "ACA is the Heritage Foundation plan" arguments. Using the "status quo ante" argument by cherry picking and leaving out the nuance of context is essentially saying, "let's just start from the position that my argument is correct and proceed from there." It's intellectually dishonest horse poo poo. It's really not. Block grants are bullshit and would have been absolutely ruinous in red states. There would have been exactly zero mechanisms to control costs. There would have been no incentive to improve services. There would have been no patient protections. Like, have you seen the vague republican proposals now? Did you see what Welfare Reform was in the 90s? It would have been a disaster. EDIT: I'm pretty sure I've talked to you about this before and you're the epitome of Pure Socialism is the Only Option.
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Joementum posted:The full clip of that Rubio discussion about hip hop is really worth watching too. He has to school Andrea when she says Biggie was West Coast! This should be the first answer to anyone asking who is in the Wu-Tang clan. They had a catchy intro just to help you learn names: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEnwXYJcSZc
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I know it isn't him, but in my head he is the Slap-Chop and Shamwow guy.
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Great_Gerbil posted:It's really not. Block grants are bullshit and would have been absolutely ruinous in red states. To add to this, block granting would have just meant money from Medicaid getting shunted to filling budget holes caused by tax cuts to businesses and the rich instead of being spent on health care services.
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ErIog posted:To add to this, block granting would have just meant money from Medicaid getting shunted to filling budget holes caused by tax cuts to businesses and the rich instead of being spent on health care services. Continuing this line... Heritage/Chafee mandated that employers offer insurance but not that they help pay for it (with no allowance for subsidies). HF/C does not expand Medicaid. And seriously. BLOCK GRANTS. Both cut Medicare costs. The PPACA by curtailing the disastrously expensive Medicare Advantage (read: privatized) plans. The HF/C lowers Medicare costs by _____? HF/C invokes the much-touted tort reform. So, sorry we accidentally amputated your leg, here's $10,000. You might get rewarded more but, you know, tort caps! HF/C sets "a standard of care" but doesn't really elaborate on that. Even the senate bill was kind of vague on that. The PPACA sets very specific things that must be covered. The PPACA establishes a clear ratio delineating how much money can be spent on administrative costs and how much must be spent on care. HF/C does not. There's more but you can't possibly delude yourself into thinking that a republican plan--even one that does share similar provisions--would have protected consumers in any meaningful way. Besides, this plan never went up for a vote because the Republicans thought it was too liberal. It was a show pony and nothing else. A little more light reading.
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