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Renaissance Robot posted:It's a sad indictment of your culture that you think the primary/only purpose of law is to punish criminals. quote:I am aware that the notion of protecting people from themselves can be taken too far, but consider that when some lidless squid distributes himself all over the side of your mother's car, even if she's not at fault she's going to be a lot more shaken up about it if he's dead (to say nothing of his friends and family). Helmet laws are not just about the rider. This is all just for purposes of arguing on the internet, anyway, since neither you nor I make the laws, nor even really have much influence on those who do. There will always be places in the world that don't actively require someone to wear a helmet, and there will always be other places that do. I just wanted to illustrate that it's possible to separate the fact that something is a good idea from the insistence that there should be a law. SquadronROE posted:Does living in a helmet-law state make insurance go up or down? quote:Yep. Laws also exist to help compel people to do safe things. Laws form part of the moral fabric of society. Not to the same extent that, say, family values do, but they're a part of it. quote:Additionally they help to guarantee a specific standard is held across a broad group. quote:Granted, the implicit threat is that you will get fined if it's not up to spec - but it's harder to broadly apply positive reinforcement than negative. Digital_Jesus posted:They don't. Frosty- fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Frosty- posted:I don't know. I assume it actuates out to higher risk for the insurance company, so I pay more. Although my insurance company knows I wear a helmet, so maybe they take that into account? They don't.
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That certainly answers my question. A bunch of bunk about restricting view, more weight, etc. Then the idea that a helmet law isn't a rational idea.
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Frosty- posted:laws laws laws Are you a first year law student?
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# ? Jun 23, 2015 15:23 |
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Sounds more like first year philosophy student.
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SquadronROE posted:That certainly answers my question. A bunch of bunk about restricting view, more weight, etc. Then the idea that a helmet law isn't a rational idea. builds character posted:Are you a first year law student? I love how offended everyone is that I don't want to force people to do things. It's OK, I'm not going to bother continuing to irritate everyone by being so tolerant of others. You can go back to pretending everyone thinks exactly like you do, and that if anyone ever didn't they could never have a good enough reason, ever. Koruthaiolos posted:Sounds more like first year philosophy student.
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builds character posted:Are you a first year law student? Freshman, philosophy major... Maybe polisci.
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Frosty- posted:I simply take laws very seriously, and I believe they should be applied in a sober and respectful way. I don't know where you got the idea that I believe the primary purpose of a law is to punish criminals, since words can't do anything. Laws simply instruct the legal apparatus how to handle a criminal in the wake of a crime. It's the people who do the punishing. I also don't see what this has to do with my "culture," either. The culture I grew up in does not endorse my philosophy at all. This may be the most pedantic thing I've ever read. Like, bravo mister, you sure schooled me about the inability of a rulebook to throw itself.
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Frosty- posted:There can be no rational argument against wearing a helmet. Anyone who believes it's OK to ride a motorcycle without a helmet is an idiot. gently caress off.
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Frosty- posted:Yeah, but I'm not the one who brought up any of the excuses why a person wouldn't wear a helmet. I've been consistent in reinforcing that I believe there are none.
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Frosty- posted:Yeah, but I'm not the one who brought up any of the excuses why a person wouldn't wear a helmet. I've been consistent in reinforcing that I believe there are none. People aren't rational though, was my point. We're conditioned to ignore or downplay the possibility of our own death, so in order to have us behave in a manner approaching rationality it is necessary to impose petty fines and cautions for being caught doing such a risky thing as riding a motorcycle without a helmet.
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It's been a long time since I've had to fire up the ol' ignore list, but there it is. I liked asking and answering motorcycle questions.
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Hobbes rules, communism drools!
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Z3n posted:Hobbes rules, communism drools! them's fightin' words for someone else
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For what its worth, Ive had more friends die with helmets on their heads than friends who didnt wear helmets.
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I know more people that have died in cars than on motorcycles. Clearly cars are a more dangerous form of transportation. Maybe if we were forced to wear helmets in cars...
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The American Motorcycle Association doesn't like helmet laws and they are the American Motorcycling Association! If helmets were great you would think that the group dedicated to motorcycles would be on board.
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Hay guys, any more ideas about the Ninja 300?
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XYLOPAGUS posted:Hay guys, any more ideas about the Ninja 300? Does it still die if you give it some gas while/immediately after starting?
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Hit it with some ether and see what happens
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XYLOPAGUS posted:Hay guys, any more ideas about the Ninja 300? From the manual troubleshooting section: Spark plug dirty, broken or gap maladjusted Stick coil trouble Main throttle sensor trouble Subthrottle sensor trouble Subthrottle valve actuator trouble Intake air pressure sensor trouble Water temperature sensor trouble Intake air temperature sensor trouble Fuel pump trouble Fuel injector trouble Fuel pressure too low or too high Fuel pressure regulator trouble Fuel line clogged
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Z3n posted:Hobbes rules, communism drools! Hobbes would kick the living poo poo out of these Austrian School motherfuckers and their "NO gently caress YOU DAD" model of society. XYLOPAGUS posted:Hay guys, any more ideas about the Ninja 300? Marx would suggest the problem lies in the alienation of the proletariat and suggest you check that you've not got water in your electrics, which like the insidious propaganda of the bourgeoisie can corrode the unity between the disparate elements of your bike's systems. Stalin would just send your bike to the gulag though.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Stalin would just send your bike to the gulag though. You are crazed lunatic like Khrushchev pounding shoe on desk and shouting angry plan to bury motorcycle in deep grave.
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WWMR. What Would Marx Ride? Probably an Enfield. Bike of the people.
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Hobbes is spot on. Morality is a lie and the word "good" is almost always interchangeable with "this is something that I find beneficial and conducive to the lifestyle I find preferable". Cruisers are not "good" bikes. Edit Vvvv Chichevache fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jun 23, 2015 |
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Warning: this forum has a gold fringe.
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I am a free man on the land!
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Hobbes would kick the living poo poo out of these Austrian School motherfuckers and their "NO gently caress YOU DAD" model of society. Sometimes you just gotta throw your leviathan on the table.
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Can someone recommend wireless headphones that would fit in with a helmet okay? I have an iphone so I think that uses bluetooth or something
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Stalin would just send your bike to the gulag though. Mao would...gently caress the bike even though it's not above the 600cc minimum displacement, then starve Kawasaki's employees?
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Judge Dredd wears a helmet, and so should you... creep.
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A MIRACLE posted:Can someone recommend wireless headphones that would fit in with a helmet okay? I have an iphone so I think that uses bluetooth or something Get bluetooth speakers from Sena or some other manufacturer.
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A MIRACLE posted:Can someone recommend wireless headphones that would fit in with a helmet okay? I have an iphone so I think that uses bluetooth or something I don't think most bluetooth headphones will fit under a helmet - get a Sena and use a normal set of isolating headphones.
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Yeah, most of the wireless BT headphones I've seen are more meant for running and such, so they're pretty huge. It would likely be really painful to wear them under a helmet. I use a set of noise-cancelling earbuds, with the $5 Sena headphone jack adapter, and a Sena. It's pretty self-contained, and sounds fantastic because you're not relying on your helmet to be extremely quiet.
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Z3n posted:I don't think most bluetooth headphones will fit under a helmet - get a Sena and use a normal set of isolating headphones. Silly question but can you use them without the microphone dongle attached? I don't need to like, talk to people on the phone or anything
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A MIRACLE posted:Silly question but can you use them without the microphone dongle attached? I don't need to like, talk to people on the phone or anything Yeah, although no reason not to have it installed.
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I had a pair of LG Tone that for well under my helmet but the neck ring would fling back when I launched from lights. Now I have this Bluetooth headset and they stick out too far from the ear to be comfortable under a helmet. Just get a sena or equivalent they are awesome.
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builds character posted:Does it still die if you give it some gas while/immediately after starting? EX250 Type R posted:Hit it with some ether and see what happens revmoo posted:From the manual troubleshooting section:
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I might budget for a sena at some point this summer, right now I'm making do with a pair of sport earbuds that hook over the top of my ear. They range from pretty good (when both sides stay in my ears to the same extent) to excruciatingly terrible, as the shape of my weird mutant ear canals means the right one tends to dig in while the left one worms its way out, which means I get a ton of road noise in one ear and perfectly isolated music in the other. If I have the volume slightly too high it generally ends up like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tekhh7Iy-sM At least until I can pull over to fix it up. I'd be right hosed if I didn't have a modular helmet.
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Weird problem with a 1983 GS650. Bike cranks and starts perfectly fine cold. Ride around for a while, kill the engine for a minute or two, and then try to restart, the motor turns over very slowly, like a low-but-not-dead battery. Too slow to start the engine. If I leave it for a few more minutes, it cranks and starts up perfectly normal again, like the battery is fully charged. Battery never drops below 12v, and charges while riding between 12.3 at idle and 14.5 at ~4500 rpm. This is just a dying battery, right? Anything else I should check before spending the battery money? The fact that it holds a charge and then acts normally after sitting several minutes is throwing me off here.
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