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zakharov posted:Goobergate people just don't realize how tedious and boring the Entire Rest Of The World finds this ongoing drama. And how useless it is. Looking at this year's E3 it seems most publishers and developers already realized how much (often thoughtlessly, not maliciously) of a white boy's club they've created and take active steps to change it. More women as heroes, more games where you can selecte a male or female hero, more games featuring people of colour, more women at the presentations etc. pp. Making the MRAs/GGers look even more like George Wallace standing at the UA door.
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Krinkle posted:Have you ever seen a political cartoon where a white artist draws a black man saying "obama is just a thug" or some such because then you can't call them racist? And how it never works? This is that. They felt cognitive dissonance, for ever so briefly a time, by telling women that no, actually, there is no harrassment and you don't feel threatened, and then they cleared that up by drawing a female cartoon mouthpiece that validates their world view. Is this secretly an Onion joke? This sounds too stupid to not be a parody.
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I thought the bit about revenge porn had a lot more impact than the bit on general doxxing and threats. I guess I've smelled enough of the latter kind of poo poo to not be surprised by it. And I guess I'm not hugely surprised by revenge porn either, but it still broke my heart the way that segment unfolded with the woman matter of factly explaining that she felt like the only option she had was to end her life... and then a few minutes later showing that montage of news anchors, with increasingly strained attempts at straight faces, telling people in her situation it was basically their fault for letting those pictures exist in the first place... culminating with that one anchor considering the implications of that kind of thing going wrong... and laughing. It was loving gut-wrenching. richardfun posted:Jesus, some people in this thread are thick (or are just being willfully obtuse). "Police brutality against black people is an issue" "True, and I'm not racist, but I will point out that black men are disproportionately criminal." "The gently caress does that have to do with what I was saying?" "What are you getting upset about, I agree with you on the issue, I just had a burning desire to bring up racial criminal statistics. For some reason. Also, did you know police can be mean to white people too?" That woman apparently having legitimately bad opinions... I guess you could call it a loaded non-sequitur to be generous. It's a kind of hilarious lack of self awareness that leads to someone defending that loaded non-sequitur after it's been called out. But yeah, no, it's super important to bring up the fact that women aren't the only people who are harassed too. Fight the good fight there, guys.
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Soylentbits posted:Is this secretly an Onion joke? This sounds too stupid to not be a parody. Oh my loving god dude it happens like once a week on average. Never read political cartoons.
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Soylentbits posted:Is this secretly an Onion joke? This sounds too stupid to not be a parody.  ...pretty much sums it up.
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Echo Chamber posted:Oliver is certainly aware of the effect his stuff has on Reddit and Twitter; and the inclusion of the brief soundbites by Anita and Briana was deliberate. Most people might not care for GG drama, but Oliver's aware of the fraction of his fans who are brogressive anti-"SJW" types. Honestly, I think it's just that they both had convenient interview clips with major news organizations that made their footage available to him.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Oh my loving god dude it happens like once a week on average. Never read political cartoons. Speaking of which, I specifically went looking for this edit  
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Dreylad posted:Oliver's always been like that I think, even before he got famous on The Bugle Andy would lavish John with praise and he'd deflect or turn it into a joke every time. Yes, he's british as all hell, that's all.
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Narcissus1916 posted:I felt like Oliver took a non-controversial approach to it. Can't we all loving agree that all police should know what twitter is? basic knowledge about a crime is kinda police 101, eh? Not everyone knows every loving social media or website out there and honestly one of the points that they tried to make is in a lot of places it's not even illegal to harass someone on the internet in the United States (which doesn't even take into account everyone in the rest of the world.) Soylentbits posted:Is this secretly an Onion joke? This sounds too stupid to not be a parody. You should read a little cartoon called Day by Day
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sbaldrick posted:Not everyone knows every loving social media or website out there and honestly one of the points that they tried to make is in a lot of places it's not even illegal to harass someone on the internet in the United States (which doesn't even take into account everyone in the rest of the world.) A recent example of this in Massachusetts is when a guy was found not guilty of taking upskirt photos with his cell phone. The only reason that he got away? The law did not mention the certain crime as it was not possible when the law was written. The loop hole was closed, and this is another situation when laws need to be changed.
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VagueRant posted:I kinda skimmed the last couple pages because oh my god, but hey, could anyone else not stop staring at John's "spider" hands for the rest of the episode? You mean his puffin wings.
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VagueRant posted:I kinda skimmed the last couple pages because oh my god, but hey, could anyone else not stop staring at John's "spider" hands for the rest of the episode? I was dying at that comment, I knew exactly what they were talking about.
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VagueRant posted:I kinda skimmed the last couple pages because oh my god, but hey, could anyone else not stop staring at John's "spider" hands for the rest of the episode? I like that they specifically picked dumb comments so as to make the difference between the sort of poo poo John and guys like him deal with, and what the women being discussed deal with clear. Plus it's funny when the Englishman flails.  Also, NOT A REAL RICKROLL, OLIVER! I didn't click on no link! 
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IRQ posted:You mean his puffin wings. Speaking of which, has the Last Week Tonight twitter/facebook been drowned in John as a puffin fan art yet?
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Gyges posted:Speaking of which, has the Last Week Tonight twitter/facebook been drowned in John as a puffin fan art yet? I'm surprised they didn't have a Photoshop of his face on a puffin on screen.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:And yet, when you wade into their goblin warrens, they're constantly talking about how they're winning the battle because some "SJW" got his conference bumped from E3 or something. It's amazing how much this consumes their lives, right down to their pillow art waifu Vivian James. I love the term SJW because as soon as someone uses it as some sort of insult or whatever I instantly know how worthless their opinion is really cuts out a lot of guesswork.
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socialsecurity posted:I love the term SJW because as soon as someone uses it as some sort of insult or whatever I instantly know how worthless their opinion is really cuts out a lot of guesswork.
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socialsecurity posted:I love the term SJW because as soon as someone uses it as some sort of insult or whatever I instantly know how worthless their opinion is really cuts out a lot of guesswork.
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It's just like when somebody says, "The dictionary definition of... " you can ignore their post. It's often the first sentence, too! So thoughtful of them .
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socialsecurity posted:I love the term SJW because as soon as someone uses it as some sort of insult or whatever I instantly know how worthless their opinion is really cuts out a lot of guesswork. So basically, "SJW" as pejorative is the linguistic equivalent of the Confederate flag?
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Technogeek posted:So basically, "SJW" as pejorative is the linguistic equivalent of the Confederate flag? I think using the term with any level of sincerity is that, considering I think most people who care about various social justice causes don't actually call themselves that.
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socialsecurity posted:I love the term SJW because as soon as someone uses it as some sort of insult or whatever I instantly know how worthless their opinion is really cuts out a lot of guesswork. But what if you are calling a militant member of PETA a SJW?
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sbaldrick posted:But what if you are calling a militant member of PETA a SJW? Actually, PETA is a super misogynistic and racist organisation, most folks I know would not really consider them on the side of 'social justice' or whatever you want to call it.
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It is such a relief to see that Something Awful is filled with non-terrible people who understand what Oliver is saying. Looking at all of the "Oliver has been suckered in by the evil SJWs" nonsense in the Youtube comments was depressing. Maybe it's just that the average goon is a bit older than other parts of the Net? I've never watched an Anita Sarkeesian video but if all of the worst people on the Internet hate her she must be doing something right.
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Patter Song posted:I've never watched an Anita Sarkeesian video but if all of the worst people on the Internet hate her she must be doing something right. Same, I have never watched her stuff yet people insist that Gamurgat has some legitimacy, but like unless she is sacrificing babies on camera nothing she is saying could justify this response.
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axelsoar posted:Same, I have never watched her stuff yet people insist that Gamurgat has some legitimacy, but like unless she is sacrificing babies on camera nothing she is saying could justify this response. I watched one of her videos a year or two ago. It was just academic feminist critique, same as people have been writing about books, comics, movies, etc. for decades. I'm honestly mystified as to why GGers took it so personally.
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Patter Song posted:I've never watched an Anita Sarkeesian video but if all of the worst people on the Internet hate her she must be doing something right. The best analogy I can give is how the Reverand Al Sharpton is a loving a moron but he's on the right side of human rights. His message is good but god drat the guy is a loving idiot. I kind of look at anita like that. Sure she's fighting the good fight for women but sometimes she says things that are so inexplicably dumb I can't help but dislike her. She's pretty insufferable as a person so the loving stupid MRA guys have tons of ammo to dislike her for both nefarious and legitimate reasons. I mean this happened which I'll laugh until the day I die how loving dumb this is  And if you like video games and fallout in particular you realize that she's kinda just.. dumb  Like whatever go do your feminist thing just like Sharpton does his thing but holy balls I wish they'd both shut up.
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Veskit posted:The best analogy I can give is how the Reverand Al Sharpton is a loving a moron but he's on the right side of human rights. His message is good but god drat the guy is a loving idiot. I kind of look at anita like that. Sure she's fighting the good fight for women but sometimes she says things that are so inexplicably dumb I can't help but dislike her. She's pretty insufferable as a person so the loving stupid MRA guys have tons of ammo to dislike her for both nefarious and legitimate reasons. I mean this happened which I'll laugh until the day I die how loving dumb this is Separate but equal!!! In one report I read it said that 3 out of 5 schools separated by race are equal to ones that are not. bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Jun 24, 2015 |
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Veskit posted:The best analogy I can give is how the Reverand Al Sharpton is a loving a moron but he's on the right side of human rights. His message is good but god drat the guy is a loving idiot. I kind of look at anita like that. Sure she's fighting the good fight for women but sometimes she says things that are so inexplicably dumb I can't help but dislike her. She's pretty insufferable as a person so the loving stupid MRA guys have tons of ammo to dislike her for both nefarious and legitimate reasons. I mean this happened which I'll laugh until the day I die how loving dumb this is I love that people can't see the irony in things like this. eta- for those who still don't get it, the more you hate the more they make. Zythrst fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Jun 24, 2015 |
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Veskit posted:
Actually Anita I think you'll find that crafting systems amounting to scavenger hunts for bits of junk are dumb and bad. Kinda unironically, actually. That is not gameplay that I like.
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Xoidanor posted:I would kill for Fallout crafting system that was entirely focused on vehicles and stylish armour, weapons are boring. Unless that armor goes on the dog, then I'm going spend hours on it.
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Zythrst posted:Unless that armor goes on the dog, then I'm going spend hours on it. Get some armor for the Dog Supreme Court justices.
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Yeah, she's held some Not great opinions. But it really does not justify, or explain in a sane logical world, where the hell the bile all came from.
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axelsoar posted:Same, I have never watched her stuff yet people insist that Gamurgat has some legitimacy, but like unless she is sacrificing babies on camera nothing she is saying could justify this response. It is kind of like when I post a dumb opinion on something, most people will ignore it or call me dumb and then ignore it. If Anita Sarkeesian does something dumb, you have a giant wall of MRAs making videos "calling her out" or literal death threats. Good thing I have a white penis.
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