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My favourite thing about this thread since the USA got involved is the number of people who didn't give a poo poo about FIFA a month ago, who then appear out of the blue to say 'you're wrong, Leeds dad, because we've got RICO!' And not one of those posters has explained how or why they think RICO will convict the - so far as anyone knows - innocent man who runs the organisation.
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Pook Good Mook posted:Because your opinion (by your own admission) is based on willful ignorance. Okay, so rather than repeat the phrase 'you're wrong' explain why what I say is wrong. Explain to me, and everyone outside the debate forum, and even outside the states, why you are certain your (ridiculous) RICO will garner a conviction on the top dog. Consider it a challenge.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:14
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Gigi Galli posted:rename leeds dad RICO-suave rename Sepp RICO-chet cause it's all gonna bounce off him. jyrka posted:Sepp Blatter is not a criminal. Also hello jyrka, it's jyrka everyboddy!
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Jul 1, 2015 21:15
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stickyfngrdboy posted:My favourite thing about this thread since the USA got involved is the number of people who didn't give a poo poo about FIFA a month ago, who then appear out of the blue to say 'you're wrong, Leeds dad, because we've got RICO!' And not one of those posters has explained how or why they think RICO will convict the - so far as anyone knows - innocent man who runs the organisation. Basically in the USA it works like this. RICO declares Blatter to be a minority immigrant and then the police have free reign to execute him if he sets foot anywhere close to the USA.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:20
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Hi I don't think any of us know whether Sepp Blatter will be convicted of a crime. I hope you liked my hot Sepp Blatter take.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:23
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Leeds Dad more like Leeds BAD (This works on many levels!!1)
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Jul 1, 2015 21:23
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That Works posted:Basically in the USA it works like this. RICO declares Blatter to be a minority immigrant and then the police have free reign to execute him if he sets foot anywhere close to the USA. Surely the word 'immigrant' is redundant if the preceding word is minority.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:23
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blue footed boobie posted:Hi I don't think any of us know whether Sepp Blatter will be convicted of a crime. I hope you liked my hot Sepp Blatter take. This is a poo poo opinion pal. What do you think will happen? Or do you leave all your speculation for the fanfic thread?
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Jul 1, 2015 21:25
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stickyfngrdboy posted:My favourite thing about this thread since the USA got involved is the number of people who didn't give a poo poo about FIFA a month ago, who then appear out of the blue to say 'you're wrong, Leeds dad, because we've got RICO!' And not one of those posters has explained how or why they think RICO will convict the - so far as anyone knows - innocent man who runs the organisation. It doesn't matter if Blatter is innocent. If all of this happened in his organization and he's the head of the organization, that makes him responsible for it so he will be found guilty regardless.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:29
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blatter did nothing wrong
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Jul 1, 2015 21:31
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Daric posted:It doesn't matter if Blatter is innocent. If all of this happened in his organization and he's the head of the organization, that makes him responsible for it so he will be found guilty regardless. Yeah, that's basically what RICO is.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:31
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Daric posted:It doesn't matter if Blatter is innocent. If all of this happened in his organization and he's the head of the organization, that makes him responsible for it so he will be found guilty regardless. This is wrong.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:33
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Daric posted:It doesn't matter if Blatter is innocent. If all of this happened in his organization and he's the head of the organization, that makes him responsible for it so he will be found guilty regardless. Again, you misunderstand. What you're describing is his guilt in your country, because of this ridiculous law you invented because you couldn't convict Mafia dons by any other means. There isn't a normal, sensible country that exists which would convict a man under those circumstances, and nobody outside the states would see such a conviction as valid (wrt Blatter).
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Jul 1, 2015 21:34
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Hi everyone just popping in to say I hope Sepp Blatter dies. Well thats my post see ya
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Jul 1, 2015 21:35
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Again, you misunderstand. What you're describing is his guilt in your country, because of this ridiculous law you invented because you couldn't convict Mafia dons by any other means. There isn't a normal, sensible country that exists which would convict a man under those circumstances, and nobody outside the states would see such a conviction as valid (wrt Blatter). This is also wrong.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:36
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blue footed boobie posted:This is also wrong. OK... Let's not go into detail at all this isn't fan fiction.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:37
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Also that's actually 100% accurate.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:38
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Leeds Dad has a feeling about rico and by god he's gonna feel it
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Jul 1, 2015 21:38
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Sepp Blatter made football good
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Jul 1, 2015 21:38
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Parody Threads posted:Leeds Dad has a feeling about rico and by god he's gonna feel it I love the feels
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Jul 1, 2015 21:39
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stickyfngrdboy posted:OK... Let's not go into detail at all this isn't fan fiction. Other countries have laws similar to RICO but people itt don't know what RICO is.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:39
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Pick posted:Yeah, that's basically what RICO is. Not exactly. To qualify under RICO the government has to prove the person: "through a pattern of racketeering activity or through collection of an unlawful debt to acquire or maintain, directly or indirectly, any interest in or control of any enterprise which is engaged in, or the activities of which affect, interstate or foreign commerce." 18 U.S.C. section 1962(b). When they refer to "activities" they refer to crimes listed in section 1961. Basically, if you are the boss of someone who is convicted of a qualifying crime in 1961 you are guilty under RICO. Basically for Sepp to be found guilty they will need to prove that: one of the people charged is guilty and they acted directly in accordance with FIFA directions/or alternatively that the organization knew of those activities. So unless those charged have no interest in protecting themselves and don't testify against Sepp by saying that he at least knew of those activities (even if he didn't actively facilitate them) Sepp is going down. *Of course, that assumes that Sepp actually DID know about those activities, which really can't be proven until the other guys go to trial or plead out. Pook Good Mook fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Jul 1, 2015 |
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Jul 1, 2015 21:40
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blue footed boobie posted:Other countries have laws similar to RICO but people itt don't know what RICO is. OK. Soooooo...
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Jul 1, 2015 21:41
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The FBI have bottled this.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:41
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Pissflaps posted:The FBI have bottled this. it's a game of three halves apparently
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Jul 1, 2015 21:42
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Pook Good Mook posted:18 U.S.C. Nice bluebooking, brah
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Jul 1, 2015 21:42
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without blatter we'd be in an era of boredom and confusion, football became the best show on the planet all thanks to his humble efforts
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Jul 1, 2015 21:43
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stickyfngrdboy posted:OK. Soooooo... Yes?
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Jul 1, 2015 21:49
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People in this thread don't know what thing is (by which I imply I know what thing is). I'm not going to explain thing at all I'm going to just turn up and tell them how wrong they all are.
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Jul 1, 2015 21:52
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Gigi Galli posted:rename leeds dad RICO-suave lol
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Jul 1, 2015 22:08
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stickyfngrdboy posted:People in this thread don't know what thing is (by which I imply I know what thing is). I'm not going to explain thing at all I'm going to just turn up and tell them how wrong they all are. In other words, you're sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "la la la la I can't hear you, but you're wrong and I won't say why because I don't have a reason"
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Jul 1, 2015 22:11
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Shoren posted:In other words, you're sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "la la la la I can't hear you, but you're wrong and I won't say why because I don't have a reason" Er, no, i was implying that the other guy was doing that.
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Jul 1, 2015 22:18
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Jesus. It just means that if the U.S. has people turn on Blatter and get RICO charges against him then he'll be avoiding setting foot in any country with an extradition treaty with America (like Canada). So yeah, he might not go to prison, but that would be for political rather than judicial reasons. But he would also find it hard to stay as head of FIFA if he can't travel to half the planet and he'd lose a huge chunk of money and assets.
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Jul 1, 2015 22:19
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Lenin Riefenstahl posted:Jesus. Lol, yeah. Jesus.
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Jul 1, 2015 22:22
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people itt don't know what FIFA is.
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Jul 1, 2015 22:23
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stickyfngrdboy posted:people itt don't know what FIFA is. In Fluo/FLJ voice: The Fédération Internationale de Football Association (FIFA /ˈfiːfə/; English: International Federation of Association Football) is the governing body of association football (soccer), futsal and beach soccer. FIFA is responsible for the organisation of football's major international tournaments, notably the World Cup which commenced in 1930 and the Women's World Cup which commenced in 1991. FIFA was founded in 1904 to oversee international competition among the national associations of Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden and Switzerland. Headquartered in Zürich, its membership now comprises 209 national associations. Member countries must each also be members of one of the six regional confederations into which the world is divided: Africa, Asia, Europe, North & Central America and the Caribbean, Oceania and South America.
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Jul 1, 2015 22:25
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I think Sepp won't get punished because this is following the usual American superwealthy pattern. They got all the blacks and now they are letting the rich white people go.
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Jul 1, 2015 22:26
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Shrapnig posted:In Fluo/FLJ voice: Truly their passion united the world.
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Jul 1, 2015 22:29
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Typical American Justice. He looks guilty, he must be guilty. He doesn't look black or brown though
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Hes like clearly fuckin with you guys
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