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greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
A new Q poll sorted Clinton losing or tied with Bush or Walker in Iowa, Virginia, and Colorado with really bad unfavorables.

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DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe

meristem posted:

Has anyone in the GOP finally realised that the only response to Trump is just to firmly, repeatedly state, "we don't feed the troll Trump"? I mean, drat. Even the Internet knows this.

They tried that approach when Trump entered the race and started flinging poo poo. Now he's #1 in the polls.

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
ride the wave. embrace the trumpocalypse

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

meristem posted:

Oh, he's so folksy.

Has anyone in the GOP finally realised that the only response to Trump is just to firmly, repeatedly state, "we don't feed the troll Trump"? I mean, drat. Even the Internet knows this.

This thread must not be part of the internet then.

midnightclimax
Dec 3, 2011

by XyloJW

richardfun posted:

This thread must not be part of the internet then.

We just want Trump to buy SA, and make it great again.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


midnightclimax posted:

We just want Trump to buy SA, and make it great again.
He will restore the GBS of old. :patriot:

Thump!
Nov 25, 2007

Look, fat, here's the fact, Kulak!



What sorta name is Kyanka anyways? Sounds foreign, what a loser!

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Thump! posted:

What sorta name is Kyanka anyways? Sounds foreign, what a loser!

We know Rich Kyanka is for low taxes.

We know he's for women's rights because he let his fiance break up with him via news post on his own site.

We know he's pro immigration because he imported a mail order bride.

We know he's a pacifist as he refused to fight back against a terrible film director allowing himself to be concussed.

Sounds like a great candidate to me!

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

greatn posted:

A new Q poll sorted Clinton losing or tied with Bush or Walker in Iowa, Virginia, and Colorado with really bad unfavorables.

At this stage this is basically Clinton vs. Generic Republican.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Gyges posted:

Nah, that's an American Sniper shirt. No, I don't see how adopting the Punisher's insignia for your brand could possibly reflect badly on you. Don't question the AMERICAN HERO.

Well, how many confirmed kills did Kyle have, and how many prisoners has Perry ordered killed?

E: according to quick googling, Kyle had a career total of 160 confirmed kills (255 claimed) while Perry had ordered 278 executions as of Sept. 2014, all of which are ostensibly confirmed kills.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Jul 22, 2015

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT
It's one poll that appears to be a big outlier so try not to panic too much.

ass cobra
May 28, 2004

by Azathoth
Trump should do a bit on Chris Kyle next

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
I'll just outsource this one:

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
Rubio goes on Fox & Friends to whine about Obama going on The Daily Show:

quote:

President Barack Obama showed a “lack of class” during his interview with Jon Stewart in discussing the Iran deal, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio said Wednesday.

Sitting down for an interview with “Fox & Friends,” the Republican presidential contender responded both to a clip of Obama teasing critics of the Iran deal that “everything would be fine” if former Vice President Dick Cheney had been on the negotiating team and Donald Trump’s latest remarks.

And the way Trump has behaved recently is neither “dignified” nor “worthy” of the presidency either, Rubio added.

“We already have a president now that has no class. I mean, we have a president now that does selfie stick videos, that invites YouTube stars there, people that eat cereal out of a bathtub,” the Florida senator remarked, recalling the president’s past social media forays.

Oh gosh, you guys, he used a selfie stick, how will our nation ever recover :ohdear:

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005
No one is questioning the practice of looking at polls when they show Trump leading though? Strange.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


DaveWoo posted:

Rubio goes on Fox & Friends to whine about Obama going on The Daily Show:


Oh gosh, you guys, he used a selfie stick, how will our nation ever recover :ohdear:

Republican senators to write another letter to Iranian pen pal regarding illegitimacy of selfie president

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

TheDisreputableDog posted:

No one is questioning the practice of looking at polls when they show Trump leading though? Strange.

What world have you been living in?

1. Trump is leading in the polls.
2. Nobody thinks Trump is going to win the nomination.
3????. No one is questioning polls showing Trump leading.

richardfun
Aug 10, 2008

Twenty years? It's no wonder I'm so hungry. Do you have anything to eat?

TheDisreputableDog posted:

No one is questioning the practice of looking at polls when they show Trump leading though? Strange.

We only mostly care if Trump is going to make it into the big boy debate. Also, you're equating general election polls with party primary polls.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

TheDisreputableDog posted:

No one is questioning the practice of looking at polls when they show Trump leading though? Strange.

That's because they indisputably matter for entry into the GOP debate despite their lack of predictive power.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

TheDisreputableDog posted:

No one is questioning the practice of looking at polls when they show Trump leading though? Strange.

Well the general election is over a year away, while the first GOP debate is...16 days away!

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Look, Lise! You can actually see the exact moment where his political prospects turn to poo poo!

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.

Alter Ego posted:

Look, Lise! You can actually see the exact moment where his political prospects turn to poo poo!

November 2, 2010?

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Alter Ego posted:

Look, Lise! You can actually see the exact moment where his political prospects turn to poo poo!

Well it's from his dad who everyone knows is crazy anyways, though he is of course right in this particular instance.

I doubt it will hurt Rand since 1) no one will notice beca-TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP 2) if necessary he can just deflect since it was a statement from kooky old dad not him.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Nuclearmonkee posted:

Well it's from his dad who everyone knows is crazy anyways, though he is of course right in this particular instance.

I doubt it will hurt Rand since 1) no one will notice beca-TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP 2) if necessary he can just deflect since it was a statement from kooky old dad not him.

"Senator Paul, do you agree or disagree with your father, former Congressman Ron Paul, that Zionism is responsible for our intervention campaigns in the Middle East?"

You're crazy if you don't think that question will come up; not that it'll get much airtime beca--MR. TRUMP HAS THE YOOJEST MOST LUXURIOUS IQ ON THE SHOW. MR. TRUMP IS BETTER THAN THE SALAMI AND THE BOLOGNA COMBINED.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

I'M HAVING A HOOT EATING CORNETTE THE LONG WAY
Hey Iowa goons. Get your tickets to the Wing Ding. http://iowawingding.com/this-years-featured-speakers/

ATribeCalledKvetch
Nov 5, 2010

I do hate myself, but it has nothing to do with being Jewish.

richardfun posted:

While it's a bit out of the way for me, I figured there might be some people interested in entering this contest.



After all, the only thing better than sitting at home watching The Donald steamroll the rest of the Republican field is to be there in person to see him do it.

If anyone enters and ends up winning, I expect a detailed trip report with pictures, a la Mr. Hootington.

Here's the link. Be quick though, contest ends tonight at midnight (July 22, 11:59pm).

I love that the background of the entry page only shows Ron Paul, Herman Cain, and Jon Huntsman until you scroll all the way to the bottom.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

midnightclimax posted:

We just want Trump to buy SA, and make it great again.

If Trump brings back LF then I will vote for him. :toxx:

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005

Gregoriev posted:

Jon Huntsman

It still hurts my heart.

He could have won.

I would have voted for you Jon!

TheDisreputableDog
Oct 13, 2005
These numbers though:

quote:

In Colorado, only 34% of voters said they see Clinton as honest and trustworthy while 62% said they don't. In Iowa, the numbers were 33% to 59% -- a drop from 45% to 47% in April. And in Virginia, Clinton did best, at 39% saying they trust her to 55% saying they don't.

Didn't they hear her say everything she did was legal? :cmon:

CheesyDog
Jul 4, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
lol at any % of voters trusting anyone with the desire to be president

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

Don't forget Hitler's contributions to medicine.

AP posted:

Donald Trump has announced plans to visit the Mexico-Texas border this week, a trip that comes as he continues to condemn illegal immigration and lashes out at critics who have become increasingly critical of the Republican businessman's presidential bid.

Trump will travel to Laredo, Texas on Thursday, where he will hold a press conference at the border and meet with members of the union that represents border control agents, his campaign said Wednesday. The billionaire reality television star plans to address the law enforcement community at a local reception hall.

:getin:

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


TheDisreputableDog posted:

These numbers though:


Didn't they hear her say everything she did was legal? :cmon:

I don't trust her either but you can be elected president without being trustworthy.

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx

Nuclearmonkee posted:

you can be elected president without being trustworthy.

:eyepop:

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

This is El Chapo's chance! His chance to have his rear end kicked by the Donald!

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx

Alter Ego posted:

MR. TRUMP IS BETTER THAN THE SALAMI AND THE BOLOGNA COMBINED.
Did LOL. The republican race is literally Wacky Delly. Or maybe Trump's campaign is Wacky Delly, since no matter how awful it is, the ratings keep going up.

ATribeCalledKvetch
Nov 5, 2010

I do hate myself, but it has nothing to do with being Jewish.

greatn posted:

This is El Chapo's chance! His chance to have his rear end kicked by the Donald!

Exit strategy: El Chapo Huey Longs the Donald.

pugnax
Oct 10, 2012

Specialization is for insects.
2016 Presidential Primary: El Chapo Huey Longs the Donald

Indie Rocktopus
Feb 20, 2012

In the aeroplane
over the sea


One thing that Onion article nailed: the attack ads are going to be both highly entertaining and fascinating. Trying to engage with Trump is pointless - any Republican criticism of his policies starts with "maybe that sounds good, but it's not feasible," which is totally irrelevant to Trump's base, and leaves the aggressor wide open for Trump's barrage of populism and slander. You can't argue nuance with Trump. Trump obliterates nuance by his presence.

...which, of course, is exactly the strategy Republican party has been pulling on the rest of us for the the past four years: promising their voters nonsense policies that are impossible to implement and don't stand up to any real scrutiny, but that are impossible to argue against, because they're catering to a shrinking, increasingly radicalized base that doesn't care about scrutiny or implementation. Compared to Trump, everyone else is a RINO. GOP:America=Trump:GOP

And you know what? gently caress them. They deserve this. The final evolution of the modern Republican party is the Westboro Baptist Church, a dozen shrieking fanatics damning everyone else to hell, and Trump's just tightening that noose. "We would tell you to pray, but it wouldn't do any good. You have earned what is coming to you."

...

Alright, serious question: conventional wisdom says that Trump's going to get pushed out by the eventual consensus candidate who successfully woos the big financial backers. But that was Romney's position four years ago, and they still couldn't get him elected. 2012 proved that even Koch cash can't save a campaign if both your base and the American public are antipathetic to your candidate. Exactly how far can donor money go in getting a terrible candidate through the primaries and into the general - especially when the donors are still arguing about which terrible establishment candidate to throw their collective weight behind, and the fringe candidate has already unified the base?

This is not 2012, with the flavor-of-the-month dark horse candidates, and Trump is not Herman Cain. The suggestion that Trump could become the Republican candidate is, at its face, totally laughable and patently impossible... but then again, it was supposed to be impossible for Trump to dump The Apprentice, to stick through when backlash among his business partners started hurting him financially, to dominate the national conversation, to make gaffes that would sink any other candidate and actually see his numbers rise.

We are in uncharted loving territory. Trump is absurd, but he's running against anemic opponents, in a party that screams for his brand of absurdity. Basically, I don't think we can take "he's going to get stomped out by the big donors" for granted anymore. I honestly have no idea how far he's going to go.

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Full Battle Rattle
Aug 29, 2009

As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket.

Indie Rocktopus posted:

We are in uncharted loving territory.

I think this is true on more levels than just Trump. In 2012 'socialist' was the rallying cry of the GOP (not that it worked for them) and now we have Bernie Sanders.

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