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Dr. Gene Dango MD posted:I'm fine with a cruddy episode here or there (or even if most of the episodes are not great) its the lack of multiparters and the importance of the meta-plot that's dragging it down for me. Even the good episodes feel rushed, like they don't have enough time to develop their characters and locations. Nightmare in Silver would have made an amazing two-parter. As it stands it's a (again, in my opinion) decent little episode. Well, we'll have a chance to see if two parters really will solve a lot of problems.
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Dr. Gene Dango MD posted:I'm fine with a cruddy episode here or there (or even if most of the episodes are not great) its the lack of multiparters and the importance of the meta-plot that's dragging it down for me. Even the good episodes feel rushed, like they don't have enough time to develop their characters and locations. Nightmare in Silver would have made an amazing two-parter. As it stands it's a (again, in my opinion) decent little episode. Yeah Nightmare in Silver really is one of those ones that needed a bit of breathing room. You could have done similar to the Orient Express one (though that one was pretty well paced for being a single episode.) Time Heist too, kind of.
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Capaldi did an interview with some hints about the new season. http://www.doctorwho247.co.uk/news/peter-capaldi-teases-doctor-who-series-9-first-look-at-the-new-series e: the original, linked article is better, I think: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/01/peter-capaldi-doctor-who-maisie-williams-exclusive-photo Bicyclops fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jul 2, 2015 |
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So they just started shooting the finale ... and Davros' chair and costume, normally on display at the Experience in Cardiff, was taken down over the weekend.
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Timby posted:So they just started shooting the finale ... and Davros' chair and costume, normally on display at the Experience in Cardiff, was taken down over the weekend. Oh snap
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Jul 8, 2015 22:37
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Everybody watch to see if Julian Bleach is smiling a little too much.
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Jul 9, 2015 03:46
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HELL TO THE loving YEAH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB8fh4QUy-A
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Jul 9, 2015 23:16
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holy poo poo is maisie williams gonna be susan!?
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DoctorWhat posted:HELL TO THE loving YEAH There's more scenes of the Doctor smiling and being funny in the trailer than the entirity of the last season, this might end up actually being pretty fun.
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Timby posted:So they just started shooting the finale ... and Davros' chair and costume, normally on display at the Experience in Cardiff, was taken down over the weekend. Hmm... what's a female nickname version of Davros?
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Chairman Capone posted:Hmm... what's a female nickname version of Davros? Rosa Davies Rosa T. Davies?
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Acne Rain posted:There's more scenes of the Doctor smiling and being funny in the trailer than the entirity of the last season, this might end up actually being pretty fun. The cast, the producers and Moffat have all said something to the effect of "they're really just in their groove and they're playing in the sandbox of time and space this season." Basically DoctorWhat posted:HELL TO THE loving YEAH Anybody know if there's a video floating around of the SDCC panel? Some of the quotes were really good.
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DoctorWhat posted:HELL TO THE loving YEAH Loving the music. E: Going on past performance the music is probably from a completely different place and totally unrelated to Murray Gold's score for the series, so, never mind? qntm fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Jul 10, 2015 |
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Man, the aspect ratio they used in that trailer worked really well for their shots. It's a shame it's gonna be the normal 16:9 when it airs, though
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DoctorWhat posted:HELL TO THE loving YEAH I need more of this in my life
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DoctorWhat posted:holy poo poo is maisie williams gonna be susan!? Can't be; she hasn't tried to run away and twist her ankle 
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DoctorWhat posted:HELL TO THE loving YEAH I just realized how much of Hugh Laurie I see in Capaldi's performance.
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The round things are back! I love the round things. Old school Dalek...  Which might tie in with this... Skaro?  "Am I back on Karn..?" 
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Timby posted:So they just started shooting the finale ... and Davros' chair and costume, normally on display at the Experience in Cardiff, was taken down over the weekend. The main Villain for this season is going to be alien that wanders the universe stealing other villains chairs, slightly annoying them. You heard it hear first! In the seasons final episode the Doctor lets the Alien escape due to not caring enough about the aliens scheme to bother to do anything to try and stop it, showing how truly morally Grey the new doctor has become.
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I'd love to live in a reality where Capaldi and Moffat share the show-running duties, where Capaldi is responsible for tone, Moffat is responsible for plot structure, and someone deeply capable is responsible for budget.
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Matinee posted:I'd love to live in a reality where Capaldi and Moffat share the show-running duties, where Capaldi is responsible for tone, Moffat is responsible for plot structure, and someone deeply capable is responsible for budget. Could always just go back to the old model. Have RTD be the Show Runner proper, have Moffat be the Head Writer in charge of actually getting stories done.
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All of these solutions are preposterous, when they could just put me, Bicyclops, in charge of everything. I'll hire Moffat to do some of the writing sometimes.
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What's this about revisiting Genesis of the Daleks?
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Little_wh0re posted:What's this about revisiting Genesis of the Daleks? There're rumours that one plot of the upcoming season involves the Doctor visiting Skaro and meeting a teenage/young Davros with all the ethical dilemmas that presumably entails, or so the rumour goes. Don't know if there are any details around beyond that.
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:There're rumours that one plot of the upcoming season involves the Doctor visiting Skaro and meeting a teenage/young Davros with all the ethical dilemmas that presumably entails, or so the rumour goes. Don't know if there are any details around beyond that. I think the only actual evidence we have of that is a shot from the trailer of what might be Skaro, right?
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:There're rumours that one plot of the upcoming season involves the Doctor visiting Skaro and meeting a teenage/young Davros with all the ethical dilemmas that presumably entails, or so the rumour goes. Don't know if there are any details around beyond that. So, one of the very first rumors for the season was that Twelve would be taken to Skaro pre-war and meet a young Davros in the first episode and then in the second one we would see Genesis retold with Twelve changing events and making things much worse. Everyone kind of dismissed it but then the trailer came out and had shots of possibly Skaro in it, Capaldi has been talking in interviews about how this season revolves around Missy tempting the Doctor into making a huge mistake and the Davros chair/costume was taken off display in Cardiff just as the finale started filming.
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PriorMarcus posted:So, one of the very first rumors for the season was that Twelve would be taken to Skaro pre-war and meet a young Davros in the first episode and then in the second one we would see Genesis retold with Twelve changing events and making things much worse. Everyone kind of dismissed it but then the trailer came out and had shots of possibly Skaro in it, Capaldi has been talking in interviews about how this season revolves around Missy tempting the Doctor into making a huge mistake and the Davros chair/costume was taken off display in Cardiff just as the finale started filming. To be honest, I don't have high hopes for this story if the rumours turn out to be accurate at all. Genesis is a very high benchmark for them to try and live up to, and I don't see how altering its events would make for that interesting a story.
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Rat Flavoured Rats posted:To be honest, I don't have high hopes for this story if the rumours turn out to be accurate at all. Genesis is a very high benchmark for them to try and live up to, and I don't see how altering its events would make for that interesting a story. Genesis of the Daleks is one of the very few Classic serials that, even with the dated effects and longer run time, stands up to and even surpasses most of Modern Who. Them loving with it would be the dumbest possible thing they could do Dalek related besides all the other dumbest stuff they've done
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Supposedly the season finale is going to involve Gallifrey and revisit Capaldi's cameo from the Day of the Doctor: http://io9.com/doctor-whos-most-surprising-cameo-will-get-an-explanati-1720932557
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He drops a bug or something on Gallifrey that lets him track it probably. When there was speculation that series 8 would involve an amnesia plot I was sure it would climax with the Doctor returning to Day Of The Doctor and getting his memory back from exposure to all his previous selves.
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2house2fly posted:He drops a bug or something on Gallifrey that lets him track it probably. When there was speculation that series 8 would involve an amnesia plot I was sure it would climax with the Doctor returning to Day Of The Doctor and getting his memory back from exposure to all his previous selves. Only the pre-11 doctors lost their memories though.
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computer parts posted:Only the pre-11 doctors lost their memories though. I think it's mentioned very briefly in Time of the Doctor that 11's pretty hazy on the whole thing. He's fairly sure he's saved Gallifrey at the start of the episode, but isn't 100% on what exactly happened.
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My biggest problem with the Dalek episode ideas speculated on isn't revisiting Genesis, but them going to a Pre-Genesis Skaro. Much like Capaldi's idea of doing "Genesis of the Cybermen" it's already been done by Big FInish, and would put Moffat into a position of having to either use the BF concepts of those origin stories wholesale (and probably pay authors for rights) or blow out the BF continuity which he's professed to being a proponent of. Like if you went to see Teen Davros (THIS FALL ON THE CW!  ) you'd have to have his mother, sister, etc, The Supremo, and all the trappings of Kaled society seen in I, Davros. If you don't you are decanonizing one of the best BF stories. On the other hand, if you slavishly recreate it, you have to really keep all those elements, whether they work on tv or for your story or not, which film/tv writers are loath to do--be hamstrung in their storytelling by continuity and canon. Plus Moffat would have to convince the BBC to pay Gary Hopkins for those characters and give him a story credit--not impossible, as we've seen with previous adaptations like Human Nature or Dalek, but you had Cornell and Shearman adapting their own work those cases. The BBC might pay, but they might also say "why should we pay, just do a new story without those elements."I guess you could always say "TIME WAR!" to explain the differences, that this is a new timeline where Davros' mother is named Maude not Calcula and he has a brother not a sister etc because of Dalek or Time Lord changes. You could say that history tends to repeat and some version of Davros will still create the Daleks, but overall it's best left alone in my opinion.
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Fun fact: Steven Moffat will not go to your house and steal your CD copies of "I, Davros", nor will he prevent it from being sold. It will still exist. You will still be able to enjoy it.
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cargohills posted:Fun fact: Steven Moffat will not go to your house and steal your CD copies of "I, Davros", nor will he prevent it from being sold. It will still exist. You will still be able to enjoy it. The same way I can enjoy all those decanonized Star Trek novels and NAs? Yay. "Oh, here's some speculative what if fan fiction that has no bearing on the universe I'm immersing myself in."  I mean the Unbound stories are great but it's not cool if really good ones that I considered canon become Unbounds for no good reason.
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Being concerned with canon in Doctor Who is certainly something you can do. But I think that way lies madness.
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Astroman posted:The same way I can enjoy all those decanonized Star Trek novels and NAs? Yay. I mean, i knew a doctor who spoiler thread would be nerdy. I just didn't realize it'd be THIS nerdy
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