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Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

The Clit Avoider posted:

Cool. But they also sound exactly like middle of the road (but broodal) Incantation (without Incantation's gift for creating instantly memorable riffs) buried beneath a level of dissonance that isn't nearly as interesting as several of the bands they're immediately going to be bracketed with (some of whom are already intensely boring).


They're basically the new Cannibal Corpse.

[edit] In fact, when I think about it, this has a lot in common with Ulver - absolutely (deliberately) terrible mastering and production. Much like what Ulver did with Nattens Madrigal. If they'd produced this cleanly it'd probably sound like early Kronos

Point taken. But I disagree that their dissonance isn't interesting - I think their vocal style in particular is pretty different and cool.

Out of curiosity, which of the bands that Pissgrave will be compared to do you consider boring?

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Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

The Clit Avoider posted:

[edit] In fact, when I think about it, this has a lot in common with Ulver - absolutely (deliberately) terrible mastering and production. Much like what Ulver did with Nattens Madrigal. If they'd produced this cleanly it'd probably sound like early Kronos
the really hilarious thing about Nattens Madrigal was how perfectly sparking crystal clear the acoustic guitars were while the rest of the album sounded like it was recorded on a Talkboy in Garm's yard

Scrambles
Jul 24, 2003

I WANT IT
The remaster is like reverse loudness war

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

A little late but I don't really get the hate for Portal. I always ignored them but lately I've been listening to Vexovoid and its scratching an itch. Their aesthetic is cool too, I don't care.

Oldstench
Jun 29, 2007

Let's talk about where you're going.

Kilometers Davis posted:

A little late but I don't really get the hate for Portal. I always ignored them but lately I've been listening to Vexovoid and its scratching an itch. Their aesthetic is cool too, I don't care.

They have several good songs and a lot of filler. They're popular beyond what their output should probably warrant mostly due to their fancy dress. Also, metal goons hate things news at 11.

Baron Von Ghoulosh
Dec 16, 2005

There was a time when I fed from golden chalices,
but now...

Now, I feed as
an old man pees.

The Clit Avoider posted:

Cool. But they also sound exactly like middle of the road (but broodal) Incantation (without Incantation's gift for creating instantly memorable riffs) buried beneath a level of dissonance that isn't nearly as interesting as several of the bands they're immediately going to be bracketed with (some of whom are already intensely boring).

Don't get me wrong. I like Portal's aesthetics and imagery. Their music is reflective of that. Pissgrave just comes across as a third rate Portal / Incantation impostor to me. It's boring and contrived. While I've never seen Portal live, I imagine they sound the same exact way live as they do on their albums. Where as Pissgrave are just trying really too hard to muddy the production after recording. I could be wrong.

With what Portal has done, it doesn't seem necessary to spawn countless impostors just yet.

I think The Clit Avoider sums it up best.

TollTheHounds
Mar 23, 2006

He died for your sins...
There's a new Wolfheart album out on August 21st (Shadow World) to fill your Saukkonen melodeath riffing needs (Before the Dawn, Black Sun Aeon ).

This is a good song, though I don't think it quite compares to the best on Winterborn ( see The Hunt, that plays immediately after Aeon of Cold in this Vevo link ).

http://vevo.ly/EXxps1

ButtWolf
Dec 30, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Some good stuff on the last couple of pages. I'm getting into metal, never been a huge fan, but I've always loved Dio, Pantera and any kind of 80's shred. (Paul Gilbert and the like) Any suggestions, besides the new Europe album? Guitar playing is key and if it has vocals, I really don't like bloodgargling death sounds, although sometimes I do. what

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

ButtWolf posted:

Some good stuff on the last couple of pages. I'm getting into metal, never been a huge fan, but I've always loved Dio, Pantera and any kind of 80's shred. (Paul Gilbert and the like) Any suggestions, besides the new Europe album? Guitar playing is key and if it has vocals, I really don't like bloodgargling death sounds, although sometimes I do. what
Besides the obvious (Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, etc.), if you like stuff like Dio then check out Accept, Angel Witch, Saxon, Racer X, Nitro, and Savatage.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

ButtWolf posted:

Some good stuff on the last couple of pages. I'm getting into metal, never been a huge fan, but I've always loved Dio, Pantera and any kind of 80's shred. (Paul Gilbert and the like) Any suggestions, besides the new Europe album? Guitar playing is key and if it has vocals, I really don't like bloodgargling death sounds, although sometimes I do. what
Speedtrap
http://speedtrap.bandcamp.com/album/straight-shooter

Monument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp0XpBC7Zoo

Falconer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y595heHNifs

Running Wild
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSmoBHdTQ8k

And for something to get more used to growly vocals with:

Amon Amarth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N03FOe9PcYo

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
I am going to listen to Enki until I die.

Duke Pukem
Oct 23, 2010

Three cheers for dark beer!


ButtWolf posted:

Some good stuff on the last couple of pages. I'm getting into metal, never been a huge fan, but I've always loved Dio, Pantera and any kind of 80's shred. (Paul Gilbert and the like) Any suggestions, besides the new Europe album? Guitar playing is key and if it has vocals, I really don't like bloodgargling death sounds, although sometimes I do. what

Visigoth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvMGT4wZ1N0

Primal Fear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBAI4pvCco

Grave Digger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb93QbUGcL0

Ravage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKGsd8GIG4c

And last, but not least, the Kings of Metal:
Manowar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGE2y-YBvCI

Hulk Krogan
Mar 25, 2005




This album owns so hard.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



This was asked over in Yospos but its bugging me now too. There was some folk / viking metal video where it has a woman churning butter I think, in a old house, the husband gets out of bed or something as well. Its vague as gently caress but maybe someone knows what the hell im talking about.

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Vintersorg posted:

This was asked over in Yospos but its bugging me now too. There was some folk / viking metal video where it has a woman churning butter I think, in a old house, the husband gets out of bed or something as well. Its vague as gently caress but maybe someone knows what the hell im talking about.
this sounds like it could be any Korpiklaani video

ButtWolf
Dec 30, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

I do like Amon Amarth. Some good riffs and cool viking badassery. Also, love Racer X and Nitro. Good shred, ridiculous poo poo. I was so hyped about Dragonforce at first, and then I listened to most of their stuff and was severely let down. I'll check out these when I get home. Also, I kind of like Killswitch, don't judge me.

ButtWolf
Dec 30, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Yeah, y'all hit the nail on the head with these suggestions.

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Any recommendations for stoner metal bands in the vein of Fu Manchu? I've been really digging them the past week or two and I want to expand.

TollTheHounds
Mar 23, 2006

He died for your sins...
Holy poo poo, new Istapp!

Full stream here, album release August 7th!

https://soundcloud.com/trollzorn/sets/istapp-frostbiten-full-album

I never know how to classify these guys, I guess it's swedish melodic guitar-centric slightly punky blackish metal that's super catchy and awesome and kind of unique in sound and tone with occasional clean vocals that rule?

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Something I just discovered is that the version of Europe's "War of Kings" album I'm listening to on Youtube is sped up 1.25x faster than the original. I don't know which way I prefer it.

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer

symbolic posted:

Any recommendations for stoner metal bands in the vein of Fu Manchu? I've been really digging them the past week or two and I want to expand.

Nebula is the really obvious one. Colour Haze, Kyuss, Wo Fat, Suplecs, RPG, Truckfighters, Dozer, and just about anything that involves Wino will probably also work.

Fiendish Dr. Wu
Nov 11, 2010

You done fucked up now!

symbolic posted:

Any recommendations for stoner metal bands in the vein of Fu Manchu? I've been really digging them the past week or two and I want to expand.

Orange Goblin and ASG

Duke Pukem
Oct 23, 2010

Three cheers for dark beer!


symbolic posted:

Any recommendations for stoner metal bands in the vein of Fu Manchu? I've been really digging them the past week or two and I want to expand.

Graveyard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO1aCy0i0-k

velvet milkman
Feb 13, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Hulk Krogan posted:

This album owns so hard.

This is the only thing that has managed to take my attention away from the new Cattle Decapitation album. Also, this band is from Utah? The gently caress?

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012
Utah put out Wicked Innocence, Omnipotence is sort of like the American Demilich. Night be a bit of a barren state but I can't say they haven't had their share of interesting bands.

Duke Pukem
Oct 23, 2010

Three cheers for dark beer!


Trees and Squids posted:

This is the only thing that has managed to take my attention away from the new Cattle Decapitation album. Also, this band is from Utah? The gently caress?

repression leads to art, I guess

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010

symbolic posted:

Any recommendations for stoner metal bands in the vein of Fu Manchu? I've been really digging them the past week or two and I want to expand.

We have a whole stoner/doom/sludge thread that I highly recommend reading.

Robophile
Apr 20, 2003

We know a remote farm in Lincolnshire, where Mrs. Buckley lives.

Gamma Nerd posted:

Utah put out Wicked Innocence, Omnipotence is sort of like the American Demilich. Night be a bit of a barren state but I can't say they haven't had their share of interesting bands.

I think SubRosa is from Salt Lake City, too.

Detective Thompson
Nov 9, 2007

Sammy Davis Jr. Jr. is also in repose.
Cross posting from the black metal thread, Aria of Vernal Tombs is out on vinyl now.

http://www.20buckspin.com/collections/new-vinyl/products/obsequiae-aria-of-vernal-tombs-lp

henpod
Mar 7, 2008

Sir, we have located the Bioweapon.
College Slice

Vintersorg posted:

This was asked over in Yospos but its bugging me now too. There was some folk / viking metal video where it has a woman churning butter I think, in a old house, the husband gets out of bed or something as well. Its vague as gently caress but maybe someone knows what the hell im talking about.

I got you buddy :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q6OlhSmaAA

The Clit Avoider
Aug 11, 2002

El Profesional

Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:

While I've never seen Portal live, I imagine they sound the same exact way live as they do on their albums.

They do and they don't. I had to revisit my opinion of them after catching them live a few times. The issue with Portal on cd/lp is that you're almost listening to a soundtrack for Lovecraft, and like an OST, without the visual companion, it can get tiresome very, very quickly. Especially on an album like Swarth which is almost devoid of actual non-disjointed riffs.

Live, it's a bit of a nightmare opera. Lovecraft meets Nightmare on Bald Mountain. There's camp elements (like there are in any old horror movies etc) to the music you don't even realise are there in the recording, but come across in the live show.

Baron Von Ghoulosh
Dec 16, 2005

There was a time when I fed from golden chalices,
but now...

Now, I feed as
an old man pees.

I really looked forward to this album coming out, but then it grew tiresome rather quick. Maybe because they tend to run a little longwinded at times. Otherwise great album!

Speaking of the new Europe album revitalizing their career, the new Manilla Road album is pretty drat respectable. If you like Visigoth, you may also enjoy Ironsword from Portugal. I'm still enjoy the hell out of the last Grand Magus release.

Manilla Road

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5s9eFJJVXM

Ironsword

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj-nVCOvBqE

Grand Magus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzs2XwkxPA4

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012


I feel like these guys really made a mistake with the production(Metal Blade though, not surprising), it's just a bit too polished and tame. Their EP sounds better I think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYkp6XX-BL0


Baron Von Ghoulosh posted:

Speaking of the new Europe album revitalizing their career, the new Manilla Road album is pretty drat respectable.


I just couldn't get into that album. Too many softer ballad type tracks and not much that was very memorable. They could have easily cut it down to 40 minutes, it's way too bloated.

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

ButtWolf posted:

I do like Amon Amarth. Some good riffs and cool viking badassery. Also, love Racer X and Nitro. Good shred, ridiculous poo poo. I was so hyped about Dragonforce at first, and then I listened to most of their stuff and was severely let down. I'll check out these when I get home. Also, I kind of like Killswitch, don't judge me.
Speaking of shreds and ridiculous poo poo, have you given Arch Enemy a try? They have catchy guitar leads out the rear end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc-p93x5rPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9AcG0glVu4

ButtWolf posted:

Yeah, y'all hit the nail on the head with these suggestions.
One of the best qualities of this thread is that no matter what subgenre you might be looking for stuff of, goons will loving drown you in recommendations at the drop of a hat. I've discovered so much good poo poo through this thread it's unreal.

symbolic posted:

Any recommendations for stoner metal bands in the vein of Fu Manchu? I've been really digging them the past week or two and I want to expand.
Mount Carmel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Zv7hB0qtoY

Orchid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lreXQQEPbdY

Also seconding Graveyard so, so hard.


TollTheHounds posted:

Holy poo poo, new Istapp!

Full stream here, album release August 7th!

https://soundcloud.com/trollzorn/sets/istapp-frostbiten-full-album

I never know how to classify these guys, I guess it's swedish melodic guitar-centric slightly punky blackish metal that's super catchy and awesome and kind of unique in sound and tone with occasional clean vocals that rule?
Never heard of these guys before, but this is good poo poo. Kinda reminding me of something but I can't quite get a grasp of what it is. It's kinda like.... it has little bits and bobs of Wintersun? and Finntroll and some other stuff thrown in, just without any of the pomp or weird folky stuff.
Fake edit: Actually, upon further listening, quite a few of these songs remind me of a slightly blacker Finntroll with the folk elements tossed away. The low clean vocal bits especially.


symbolic posted:

Something I just discovered is that the version of Europe's "War of Kings" album I'm listening to on Youtube is sped up 1.25x faster than the original. I don't know which way I prefer it.
I came across this too, and also some individual songs that were actually slowed down a bit. I don't really get the point. Or maybe the uploaders are just bad at computers. :shrug:
Either way, that album loving rules.

BTW, am I the only one who hears Children of the Mind and almost instinctively imagines Dio singing it? I mean, I love Joey Tempest's vocals, but this song would've fit Ronnie like a loving glove.

Oh thank christ, I knew exactly which video he was asking about, I just couldn't for the life of me remember the name of the band or song. It was bothering the poo poo out of me.


(Holy poo poo this post got a little big.)

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club




YESSSS!!!!! THanks!

Varg
Jan 13, 2007

A friendly face.

Going to this tomorrow




very hyped to see Dying Fetus headline.. the only other time I saw them, they put on a better show than both Suffocation and Carcass who played after them.

dxt
Mar 27, 2004
METAL DISCHARGE

Nordick posted:

Speaking of shreds and ridiculous poo poo, have you given Arch Enemy a try? They have catchy guitar leads out the rear end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc-p93x5rPQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9AcG0glVu4


skip Arch Enemy and just listen to Carcass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qtWlvu1YoA

TollTheHounds
Mar 23, 2006

He died for your sins...

Nordick posted:

Never heard of these guys before, but this is good poo poo. Kinda reminding me of something but I can't quite get a grasp of what it is. It's kinda like.... it has little bits and bobs of Wintersun? and Finntroll and some other stuff thrown in, just without any of the pomp or weird folky stuff.
Fake edit: Actually, upon further listening, quite a few of these songs remind me of a slightly blacker Finntroll with the folk elements tossed away. The low clean vocal bits especially.

Yeah that's the problem I always have. They're somehow one of the most original sounding black metal (??) bands out there, I can never put my finger on how to describe them or what they sound like.

Take my favourite song from their first album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3dhqV3-R80

There's almost that punky kind of riff in the beginning but then it slows down and gets melodic, then the clean chorus comes in and there's a little bit of keyboards and...they do this weird mix of stripped down/raw guitar but then throw in these random bits of beautiful melody ( love the chorus so much ).

[edit] - maybe it's just the drums that keep making me think punk, but at times it's a bit like Impaled Nazarene and you're right, a bit Wintersun and Finntroll maybe without the folk/cheese? I get a lot of Nord-era Setherial with some of the riffs too...They list their influences as Arckanum, Sorhin and Dissection, so I don't know, it's awesome.

TollTheHounds fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Aug 6, 2015

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

dxt posted:

skip Arch Enemy and just listen to Carcass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qtWlvu1YoA

Surgical Steel has some sick leads on it too.

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MoreMetalBrian
Oct 20, 2009

Well, I don't want Fop, goddamn it! I'm a Dapper Dan man!

dxt posted:

skip Arch Enemy and just listen to Carcass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qtWlvu1YoA

Skip anything but Johan Liiva-era Arch Enemy -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLupQMB3oO0

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