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Tactics Ogre is uglier? I thought FF Tactics was one of worse looking ones, but I guess I'm not a free-form geometric guy.
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Aug 15, 2015 18:31
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I'm playing the PS4 version of the SA:O game and it's pretty daunting. I guess it's kind of neat that you start at level 100 with all these skills and poo poo but I'm not really sure how I should progress on the skill tree, is it even viable to go anything but dual wield? Will it take forever to get any of the other stuff at a remotely competent level?
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Aug 15, 2015 18:34
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It's viable, and it won't really take forever. You get decent skills fairly early on in the other trees. I played through the vita game using mostly a dagger + shield build and I was pretty much unkillable.
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Aug 15, 2015 18:43
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Tae posted:Tactics Ogre is uglier? I thought FF Tactics was one of worse looking ones, but I guess I'm not a free-form geometric guy. The UI of FFT doesn't look great but the sprite work is fantastic.
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Aug 15, 2015 18:46
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Also there's a katana build that gives you near infinite SP to just spam your best stuff with. IIRC: 2hand Sword: Heavy damage, decent defense. Dual Swords: Good damage, lots of AOE skills, low defense. Dagger: Evade bonuses mostly. Katana: SP bonuses and regen, crits. Rapier: Mostly focused on debuffs, I think? Spear, Mace, Axe: Never used.
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Aug 15, 2015 18:48
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everyone forgot about tactics ogre gba
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Aug 15, 2015 18:50
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is the ps4 sa:o game the same as the vita one or is it a different thing
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Aug 15, 2015 18:51
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Cake Attack posted:is the ps4 sa:o game the same as the vita one or is it a different thing
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Aug 15, 2015 18:51
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Endorph posted:the ps4 sao game (lost song) is a new game, and came with a ps4 port of the vita game (hollow fragment) as a preorder bonus oh okay. is it any good? is the translation babblefish or is it acceptable? i didn't buy the vita one even though it was supposed to be fun since i didn't want to support the real bad translation
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Aug 15, 2015 18:54
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They revamped the translation on the PS4 version into something resembling English.
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Aug 15, 2015 18:54
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Cake Attack posted:oh okay. is it any good? is the translation babblefish or is it acceptable? i didn't buy the vita one even though it was supposed to be fun since i didn't want to support the real bad translation the translation was redone so there's that
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Aug 15, 2015 18:57
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The weird chat system in town still makes no sense at all though even with the new translation
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Aug 15, 2015 18:57
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yeah i think that's just a weird feature that doesn't gel, not awful translation.
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Aug 15, 2015 18:58
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also they sincerely apologized for the vita translation and made lost song with western audiences in mind, so there's that too
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Aug 15, 2015 18:58
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you should play the gba tactics ogre
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Aug 15, 2015 18:59
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your still playing sao tho
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Aug 15, 2015 19:00
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Davincie posted:your still playing sao tho yeah but you can just skip all the inane story poo poo and you're left with a fun game.
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Aug 15, 2015 19:04
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Sakurazuka posted:It was originally a SNES game. 16 bit games don't look ugly though. Shining Force 2 looks fun and colorful. Tactics Ogre is bland and unappealing.   vs
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Aug 15, 2015 19:12
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What? Shining Force looks a lot more assy from my point of view. If you subjectively don't like less bright color schemes sure but it's definitely not ugly for its time.corn in the bible posted:you should play the gba tactics ogre Nah the best Ogre game is Ogre Battle 64. The GBA game has some cool things (emblems which are basically stat boosts/class change enablers that a character gets for pulling off certain challenges) but it's really slow and a bit shallow.
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Aug 15, 2015 19:15
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I played through the GBA one and all I remember is who the main character ends up being in the mainline games, and that you get a mermaid companion. It's also a pretty dark game on some of its endings!Super Ninja Fish posted:16 bit games don't look ugly though. Shining Force 2 looks fun and colorful. Tactics Ogre is bland and unappealing. As much as I love Shining Force 2, it literally is a Saturday Morning Cartoon.
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Aug 15, 2015 19:17
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Hmm... Tactics Ogre is a rather ugly looking and sounding game. It's very dull. Especially coming after a FFT replay. I hate the sound of the text scroll and going through icons. I think I'll do something else. The PSP version's soundtrack is actually really good and I'd put it up there with FFT's. Also, Cake Attack, your new av is very good, but I will miss Takeo's encouragement.
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Aug 15, 2015 19:34
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I didn't get the last attack bonus or w/e on the first boss in SAO because I got stunned right before it died.  How important are those items anyways
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Aug 15, 2015 19:53
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Rascyc posted:Yeah that's not a tech limitation. Tactics Ogre was always going for the grim atmosphere so it's going to use the more earthly palette. Can't you have grim without everything looking like it's near the same color? The characters don't stand out on the map. It all blends in. Let's talk about how awesome Vandal Hearts's use of color was.   
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Aug 15, 2015 19:54
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tactics ogre looks a lot nicer than everything else you've posteddude789 posted:Also, Cake Attack, your new av is very good, but I will miss Takeo's encouragement. true but hajime is win
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Aug 15, 2015 19:55
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You guys should find good looking games to combat tactics ogre with instead of these eyesores
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Aug 15, 2015 19:55
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Son, I think your brain is just broke, and this is coming from me.
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Aug 15, 2015 19:57
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why can't tactics ogre look good, like this
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Aug 15, 2015 19:57
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I love Vandal Hearts to death but it looked like poo poo even when it first came out. Those blood spurts will never not be hilarious to me.
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Aug 15, 2015 19:58
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tactics ogre? more like tactics ugly. not a real beauty like this classic
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Aug 15, 2015 19:59
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Those Vandal Hearts screenshots genuinely make me want to play the game less, they look awful.
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Aug 15, 2015 20:00
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MockingQuantum posted:Those Vandal Hearts screenshots genuinely make me want to play the game less, they look awful. Amazingly enough the sequel actually looks worse.
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Aug 15, 2015 20:03
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Sakurazuka posted:Amazingly enough the sequel actually looks worse. Yikes. I take it the rest of the game somewhat makes up for the visuals? Seems like the first one, at least, is recommended pretty frequently.
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Aug 15, 2015 20:05
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vandal hearts isn't a bad game and it looks less rear end in motion, but it still isn't exactly a classic of the genre
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Aug 15, 2015 20:15
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The first game is fun but fairly primitive, the levels are more like little puzzles and have more varied goals than are usual for SRPG's. One notoriously tricky stage has you trying to kill zombies before they attack and kill a bunch of helpless villagers for instance. The second one has a weird system where you and the enemy both take turns at the same time, and the only way they make this workable is by having the enemy AI be completely dumb and easily exploitable.
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Aug 15, 2015 20:17
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Quest For Glory II posted:You guys should find good looking games to combat tactics ogre with instead of these eyesores
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Aug 15, 2015 20:28
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DARKSEID DICK PICS posted:Son, I think your brain is just broke, and this is coming from me. he just determined to only like like what he already played, too scared to take the dive into Tactics Ogre and everyone talking about the bad crafting system colored the perception of it being a 'bad game' before he could even pick it up. This is what happens when you focus on the flaws instead of the positives You should play Hoshigami, the visuals are just fine + the gameplay is stellar
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Aug 15, 2015 20:30
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TO also has an absolute metric poo poo-ton of battlefields, and you can have something like 30 units on the field (12 of your own + up to 18 enemies iirc). They're also 3d now, though they don't look like it - you can go into a top down view rotating the battlefield left or right. Zooming out also sharpens the graphics considerably, which looks really nice if you're playing on a Vita, pstv, or emulator. The music is stellar, the transation is ace, the UI is fast, the gameplay is fast (I'm not sure it's quite FE:A speed, but given the numbers involved, it's very quick - faster than FFT for sure). Oh and the chariot/world rewind time systems are amazing. A lot of the criticisms people were discussing earlier are stuff that annoys you after you've spent dozens (or hundreds!) of hours with the game.
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Aug 15, 2015 20:35
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Sakurazuka posted:The first game is fun but fairly primitive, the levels are more like little puzzles and have more varied goals than are usual for SRPG's. One notoriously tricky stage has you trying to kill zombies before they attack and kill a bunch of helpless villagers for instance. You got it backwards, the zombies are the villagers! They all have like 1HP, but you automatically counterattack anything that doesn't hit you in the back(?), and you gotta kill the actual enemies before too many villagers get countered to death  I hate that stage.
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MotU posted:he just determined to only like like what he already played, too scared to take the dive into Tactics Ogre and everyone talking about the bad crafting system colored the perception of it being a 'bad game' before he could even pick it up. This is what happens when you focus on the flaws instead of the positives
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