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I just need the Oh Hello boys with Lizzy Caplan and I'll be set.
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Eltoasto posted:I just need the Oh Hello boys with Lizzy Caplan and I'll be set. THAT EPI WAS SO GOOD.
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Aug 18, 2015 18:59
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Poopy Palpy posted:I wonder how many Howl subscriptions Earwolf is going to have to sell to make up for the increased bandwidth of panicky hoarders downloading gigabytes of back episodes they're never going to listen to. Jokes on them, I've been hoarding since day one!
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Aug 18, 2015 19:45
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Parallax posted:Scott's reasoning for taking down old stuff sounds like bs though. I wonder if its more they don't make money on those old ads They won't make any money off old ads, and it will cost them to serve up 100mb files at a time. It's unsustainable to have your entire body of work up for free if you're paying for the hosting side.
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Aug 18, 2015 20:02
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Can't they just let SoundCloud host them?
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Aug 18, 2015 21:13
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EL BROMANCE posted:They won't make any money off old ads, and it will cost them to serve up 100mb files at a time. It's unsustainable to have your entire body of work up for free if you're paying for the hosting side. As a developer, I'm always interested in the mechanics of this. I know an akamai's of the world would cost a pretty penny. S3 seems a pretty good fit. IDK how itunes works, is it just a registry and points to wherever the mp3s are hosted, or does apple host anything themselves? Any earwolf insiders have an idea? (i guess i could just snoop the traffic the howl app creates, see how they do it" VagueRant posted:Can't they just let SoundCloud host them? ManoliIsFat fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Aug 18, 2015 |
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Aug 18, 2015 21:31
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ManoliIsFat posted:As a developer, I'm always interested in the mechanics of this. I know an akamai's of the world would cost a pretty penny. S3 seems a pretty good fit. IDK how itunes works, is it just a registry and points to wherever the mp3s are hosted, or does apple host anything themselves? Any earwolf insiders have an idea? (i guess i could just snoop the traffic the howl app creates, see how they do it" It's not a technical problem really, there are a million ways they could serve the content (in this case it looks like they are using soundcloud to serve the audio mp3s and NetDNA/MaxCDN for other content like the episode image preview). It costs money to host content, it's rarely free, especially with the amount of traffic earwolf probably pushes. I think it's purely a way for them to monetize their old content, as it stands they earn basically nothing for old episodes. They tried to splice in new commercials into the old content, I'm sure that didn't pan out how they thought, so now they're trying to charge for archive access. I think they've got a good idea with the exclusive produced content, more Mike detective and mini-series are justifiable that way.
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Aug 18, 2015 22:06
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ElCondemn posted:It's not a technical problem really, there are a million ways they could serve the content (in this case it looks like they are using soundcloud to serve the audio mp3s and NetDNA/MaxCDN for other content like the episode image preview). It costs money to host content, it's rarely free, especially with the amount of traffic earwolf probably pushes. I think it's purely a way for them to monetize their old content, as it stands they earn basically nothing for old episodes. They tried to splice in new commercials into the old content, I'm sure that didn't pan out how they thought, so now they're trying to charge for archive access. I think they've got a good idea with the exclusive produced content, more Mike detective and mini-series are justifiable that way. Pretty much. I know it's a big change for a big network, but it's not unheard of and it makes sense. Superego does it. The Ricky Gervais Show did it way back in the day. You never have to pay a dime for new episodes, and if you've got the old ones downloaded you're set there too. I'm doing it mostly for the exclusive and premium content, and if they never put out an Android app, or don't improve their lovely web player I'll bail after a couple months, but if they can make some money off of their old content then more power to them.
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Aug 18, 2015 22:29
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So in trying to figure out this Howl business out, is there a definite answer as to whether or not I can download the backlog/archived episodes and listen to them offline? My workplace is in a spot where my phone rarely gets reception and I don't have access to wireless so streaming is entirely out of the question.
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Aug 18, 2015 23:20
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Eltoasto posted:I just need the Oh Hello boys with Lizzy Caplan and I'll be set. I literally cannot say "Newsroom" or "Aaron Sorkin" correctly because of that episode.
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Aug 19, 2015 00:13
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They can put the eps behind a pay wall because ear wolf podcasts are work for hire and midroll media, llc owns them.
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Aug 19, 2015 00:20
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Keven. Just. Keven posted:They can put the eps behind a pay wall because ear wolf podcasts are work for hire and midroll media, llc owns them. Thanks for the legal info, champ.
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Aug 19, 2015 00:27
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Srice posted:So in trying to figure out this Howl business out, is there a definite answer as to whether or not I can download the backlog/archived episodes and listen to them offline? My workplace is in a spot where my phone rarely gets reception and I don't have access to wireless so streaming is entirely out of the question. It seems like they didn't put a lot of thought into this roll out. I don't use an iPhone and I don't want to have to stream episodes. Even with the extra content available app-only, I'm not excited to pay for a bad user experience that restricts how I can consume their product. I'm sure they will end up opening up the user experience eventually, but why didn't they think about these things before launching? These issues shouldn't have caught them off guard.
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Aug 19, 2015 01:53
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If you've ever been part of an app launch you'll know how much time, effort, care, and thought can go into a product before the planned release date hits and someone goes "okay you have a minimum viable product time to release it" way before all the important features are implemented.
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Aug 19, 2015 01:57
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feedmyleg posted:If you've ever been part of an app launch you'll know how much time, effort, care, and thought can go into a product before the planned release date hits and someone goes "okay you have a minimum viable product time to release it" way before all the important features are implemented. Offline playback of episodes you are paying for is part of an MVP. This is how Podcasts work.
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Aug 19, 2015 04:33
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The This American Life app I bought maybe 5 years ago to have access to their back catalog still doesn't really work, so I wouldn't expect a lot of improvement any time soon.
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Aug 19, 2015 04:49
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Eltoasto posted:I just need the Oh Hello boys with Lizzy Caplan and I'll be set. Where's my scoop?
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Aug 19, 2015 05:43
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I dunno if anyone else had the same experience, but the Earwolf app was a buggy piece of poo poo when I tried using it, which makes me pretty nervous that the Howl app doesn't seem to have learned a ton from the previous app failures.
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Aug 19, 2015 12:55
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Power of Pecota posted:Where's my scoop? I didn't say ice cream! SCENE.
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GobiasIndustries posted:I dunno if anyone else had the same experience, but the Earwolf app was a buggy piece of poo poo when I tried using it, which makes me pretty nervous that the Howl app doesn't seem to have learned a ton from the previous app failures. It crashed 4 times for me just trying to sign up.
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JethroMcB posted:I didn't say ice cream! SCENE. Are we supposed to be in character?
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GobiasIndustries posted:I dunno if anyone else had the same experience, but the Earwolf app was a buggy piece of poo poo when I tried using it, which makes me pretty nervous that the Howl app doesn't seem to have learned a ton from the previous app failures. They need to find the SquareSpace of app makers
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Punch Card posted:Are we supposed to be in character? You're the ditz Dunst!
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Aug 20, 2015 05:38
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I lost all my money betting on Battle of the Network Stars.
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Aug 20, 2015 14:39
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Eltoasto posted:I lost all my money betting on Battle of the Network Stars. I was betting with this guy, he was the editor...you're sayin' I lost ten large...to a fink?
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Aug 20, 2015 16:09
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Come with me, Emily Mertimer. This is self written.
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Aug 20, 2015 16:12
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"Mark David Chapman, last time we saw him was outside of the Dakoter; I yelled at him, 'YOU DON'T HAVE THE BALLS!'" "And that night..." "That night we heard...I did good." (Not the Lizzy Caplan ep, but one of my favorite Gil and George moments)
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Aug 20, 2015 16:31
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"Menthol cigarette on hot morning in car." The "For sale: baby shoes, never worn" of the modern age.
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You also get access to at least some of aspecialthing's catalog of stand-up albums, which is cool.
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Aug 21, 2015 02:55
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It's funny relistening to old episodes and you see how often Scott paints on to a character that they're crying.
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Do we bring coffee breath or is that provided there? All I need is that episode and the gooby episode of HDTGM but really just the parts of June saying gooby.
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Trujillo posted:Do we bring coffee breath or is that provided there? I could have sworn some one did an edit of all her goobys. I'm not sure which ep it's in. Maybe a mini.
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The Ape of Naples posted:I could have sworn some one did an edit of all her goobys. I'm not sure which ep it's in. Maybe a mini. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Qu_hGPtFM
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Aug 22, 2015 04:42
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What're the best Howl exclusives? I probably won't renew after this weeks, and am enjoying the Superego exclusives.
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Golden Bee posted:What're the best Howl exclusives? I probably won't renew after this weeks, and am enjoying the Superego exclusives. There is a live CBB from a couple weeks ago that's a Howl exclusive. It's an entertaining episode with Gino among others.
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Anyone watch Jessica St. Clair and Lennon Parham's show Playing House? There was a joke last week where Keegan-Michael Key used a Grimace figurine as a stand in for Jessica St. Clair's character in a model version of their town that killed me.
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drainpipe posted:Anyone watch Jessica St. Clair and Lennon Parham's show Playing House? There was a joke last week where Keegan-Michael Key used a Grimace figurine as a stand in for Jessica St. Clair's character in a model version of their town that killed me. They also ate a bunch of DiGiorno's lament.cfg fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Aug 23, 2015 |
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Aug 23, 2015 23:56
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The last episode of Review guest-starred Lennon Parham doing kind of a half-Listler. It's also one of the greatest things I've seen all summer.
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el_caballo posted:The last episode of Review guest-starred Lennon Parham doing kind of a half-Listler. It's also one of the greatest things I've seen all summer. I'm pretty disappointed she won't be meeting Forrest's ex-wife.
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el_caballo posted:The last episode of Review guest-starred Lennon Parham doing kind of a half-Listler. It's also one of the greatest things I've seen all summer. God, that was a good character. The ads for Womp it Up mentioned that there were a lot of easter eggs so I'm glad that panned out. I haven't watched this season yet.
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