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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I'm kinda hoping the people see Ains as evil but they still prefer being under him to the way things used to be. Yeah, I think that's always an interesting scenario when I see it in games and more rarely in other fiction. Like, is it just to take down a guy who is trying to kill all magic users just because one once tried to kill him, knowing that he's less crazy than the guy he replaced and the guy who would replace him is probably going to run the kingdom into the ground? Or to take out a flat out evil ruler who enslaved a bunch of warring tribes, but in doing so brought them some semblance of order and is keeping them from killing each other or spreading out to their neighbors on wild killing sprees? Does anyone happen to know any stories that deal with that kind of conflict, particularly in book form? I'm going to be on vacation for awhile and could use some reading material.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 07:54 |
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NowonSA posted:Yeah, I think that's always an interesting scenario when I see it in games and more rarely in other fiction. Like, is it just to take down a guy who is trying to kill all magic users just because one once tried to kill him, knowing that he's less crazy than the guy he replaced and the guy who would replace him is probably going to run the kingdom into the ground? Or to take out a flat out evil ruler who enslaved a bunch of warring tribes, but in doing so brought them some semblance of order and is keeping them from killing each other or spreading out to their neighbors on wild killing sprees? It is a pretty common premise in crappy webnovels, but they are generally rapey as hell.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Ains is a lonely, timid man who suddenly gained great power. For all that he is now essentially a god, the most important thing to him is still the good old days with his mmo guild. So, with that in mind, he only has three goals in life. Protect what his friends left behind, make himself famous so that if any of his friends are around they will come back, and avoid disappointing his evil minions who alternately serve as proxies for his friends and their children. I'm interested in how he'll respond to a real, actual threat. Lich-ness surpresses his feelings, but you're basically right. He's never really had to fear for his life before so I'm wondering how he'll react when it really is. NowonSA posted:Yeah, I think that's always an interesting scenario when I see it in games and more rarely in other fiction. Like, is it just to take down a guy who is trying to kill all magic users just because one once tried to kill him, knowing that he's less crazy than the guy he replaced and the guy who would replace him is probably going to run the kingdom into the ground? Or to take out a flat out evil ruler who enslaved a bunch of warring tribes, but in doing so brought them some semblance of order and is keeping them from killing each other or spreading out to their neighbors on wild killing sprees? Let me tellyou about "The World of Warcraft", friend.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 08:06 |
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Anatharon posted:Let me tellyou about "The World of Warcraft", friend.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 08:11 |
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I'd rather read the Dragon Age novels by David Gaider. (this isn't a recommendation)
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 08:14 |
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Animal Farm.
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# ? Aug 19, 2015 12:03 |
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NowonSA posted:Does anyone happen to know any stories that deal with that kind of conflict, particularly in book form? I'm going to be on vacation for awhile and could use some reading material. Depending on who's writing him at the time, Marvel's Dr. Doom has been portrayed as bringing peace and prosperity to his homeland of Latveria, despite being a tyrannical dictator out to rule the world.
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Nipponophile posted:Depending on who's writing him at the time, Marvel's Dr. Doom has been portrayed as bringing peace and prosperity to his homeland of Latveria, despite being a tyrannical dictator out to rule the world. IIRC Latveria has like incredible world class education and health care, but also if you try to leave the country without being explicitly ordered to do so on Doom Business, you'll be disintegrated by border drones.
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deadly_pudding posted:IIRC Latveria has like incredible world class education and health care, but also if you try to leave the country without being explicitly ordered to do so on Doom Business, you'll be disintegrated by border drones. I'd still live there.
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Yeah that sounds good to me, even gives you an easy way to off yourself if you're feeling a bit depressed.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 01:09 |
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:Animal Farm.
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Grouchio posted:Read through that in 5th grade, understood everything on the first try. poo poo, get a load of this guy
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Grouchio posted:Read through that in 5th grade, understood everything on the first try. Cake Attack posted:poo poo, get a load of this guy It's not a particularly difficult or subtle book...
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Cake Attack posted:poo poo, get a load of this guy Nice av, comrade. Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Aug 20, 2015 |
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PerrineClostermann posted:It's not a particularly difficult or subtle book... Don't mind Grouchio. He says the darndest things. Also I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm in Cake Attack's post.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 02:30 |
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Yeah, I'd say Latveria would qualify. Ultimate Doom was pretty great in that respect, he fights the fantastic four early, gets beat, they let him limp off, and literally the next time you hear from him he's established a tiny new country that has like the 9th highest GDP in the world and is nothing but parties and affluence, it's pretty hilarious. On the reading front, I've picked up Nick Offerman's memoir and the annotated version of Heir to the Empire, among others, so I'm pretty well stacked now.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 02:38 |
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The best part about the NPC's is that they are all invested in the ideal of Ainz Ool Gown, like some popular dictatorships, even worshiping the founders. The leader is the only one who thinks differently, since he is invested in the memories of his friends, not a political ideal.
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Pharohman777 posted:The best part about the NPC's is that they are all invested in the ideal of Ainz Ool Gown, like some popular dictatorships, even worshiping the founders. You've got the cause and effect backwards, they worship their creators and all of their other creations, including the guild.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 04:17 |
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Grouchio posted:Read through that in 5th grade, understood everything on the first try. SHAO KHAN: Impressive.
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 09:26 |
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im sure the kids with downs were very impressed
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 09:46 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:im sure the kids with downs were very impressed
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 10:18 |
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Serious Frolicking posted:Ains is a lonely, timid man who suddenly gained great power. For all that he is now essentially a god, the most important thing to him is still the good old days with his mmo guild. So, with that in mind, he only has three goals in life. Protect what his friends left behind, make himself famous so that if any of his friends are around they will come back, and avoid disappointing his evil minions who alternately serve as proxies for his friends and their children. So the unnamed main character is the id, and ains is the superego
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# ? Aug 20, 2015 11:03 |
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Next weeks PVs are out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLInXlEkUss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x90YFLaZ6mk
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Related videos had these amazing shorts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ju0vBuaDrNU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4AfgUTFBdM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmCWdB9djcA Mordaedil fucked around with this message at 11:06 on Aug 21, 2015 |
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I wish he'd hurry up and get out of the knights armor.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 11:09 |
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Give it an episode or two.
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Iretep posted:Next weeks PVs are out. Oh dear, is this "that" episode? This will be my show of the year if they're actually brave enough to follow the graphic novel.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 11:26 |
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Going from complete ignorance here: What time of the day is this aired in Japan? This is relevant to something I'm wondering about.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 14:16 |
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without looking it up midnight or past midnight, that's when almost all anime airs
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 14:19 |
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I am extremely interested in how they approach this then.
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# ? Aug 21, 2015 14:26 |
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Yeah the next ep looks like it's gonna go past where the translated manga is. I hate waiting.
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Sephiroth_IRA posted:I wish he'd hurry up and get out of the knights armor. i still want to see his "human" face
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 00:28 |
Man this is the second time I've posted Oglaf in regards to this show.
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 00:47 |
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I forgot how much that king gets around
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 07:03 |
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Another chapter of volume six has been translated: http://skythewood.blogspot.sg/2015/08/O67.html
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Pharohman777 posted:Another chapter of volume six has been translated: http://skythewood.blogspot.sg/2015/08/O67.html This chapter-a-week thing seems a nice release rate. Too bad vol 8 only has two chapters, at 200+ pages each.
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 17:24 |
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WAIT! Today is a double release day! Chapter 7 and 8 of Volume six are out! http://skythewood.blogspot.sg/2015/08/O67.html http://skythewood.blogspot.sg/2015/08/O68.html Skythewood Translations is great!
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 17:37 |
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Pharohman777 posted:WAIT! Today is a double release day! Chapter 7 and 8 of Volume six are out! The drama cd 2 is also out.
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# ? Aug 22, 2015 18:38 |
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Dang it Demiurge, stop being such a dick.
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I don't mind and actually quite like that the novel has, for some time now, focused on people other than Ainz. But I hope that it's not going to turn into a cascade of constant failures by the kids, with dad only interfering whenever things go tits up. I hope things go well and they're not going to antagonize the entire kingdom in the next chapter.
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