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Venom Snake posted:You see; screaming bloody murder and having a temper tantrum is the political wise thing to do. Oh okay so you don't have any actual substantial opinion on this, you're just being contrarian.
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a shameful boehner posted:Instead it's the same old lukewarm, establishment-Democratic pablum that isn't doing anything to win the base and certainly isn't winning over any undecideds. The positions don't seem bad to me (at least based on her statements), it's just messaging and getting bogged down in the same dumb scandals and the same stupid gently caress-ups in communicating stuff It's not her politics, it is (or looks from the outside like) the same organizational and message problems that plagued her last time Venom Snake posted:How dare she explain how the system actually works instead of coming up with a soundbyte for twitter. I for one and offended that the HRC did not dumb things down to the intellectual level of a sewer roach like donald trump does. Even if you think it's noble in principle, it's difficult to see it actually working. Which is kind of important in a political campaign.
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Joementum posted:Rick Perry still has a super PAC! Yo... is that Stacy Keach narrating?
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Joementum posted:Here's part of Hillary's education effort on Wipewater.
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Brannock posted:You don't get out much, do you? Can you tell me what percentage of the American voting population you think has enough patience to listen to a stodgy "well technically it wasn't wrong..." dodge and devote mental processing power to it, especially over a year before the actual election? That's not really the point of The Briefing. Obama had a similar backchannel set up in 2012. Their purpose is to give the campaign volunteers and hyper-involved partisans good talking points to argue with their friends and family when discussing Hillary.
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This is Hillarys "I invented the internet" moment, its gonna drag her campaign down because she wont quit strangling herself in front of everybody
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Trump's not playing to win, either. I don't think you have enough intelligence to understand what I wrote. Having a play-to-win mentality is very different than play-not-to-lose. The latter leads you into weak and conservative decisions because they aren't risky. It has nothing to do with whether they actually want to become President or not.
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Joementum posted:Here's a PDF version: http://www.firstfreedom.net/1.pdf 
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Brannock posted:You don't get out much, do you? Can you tell me what percentage of the American voting population you think has enough patience to listen to a stodgy "well technically it wasn't wrong..." dodge and devote mental processing power to it, especially over a year before the actual election? It isn't a matter of "well technically it wasn't wrong" it's a matter of it not being wrong at all. You are also assuming this is for the average American voter when it's a YouTube video meant for politically aware people (IE smarter than your average sewer roach). Joementum posted:That's not really the point of The Briefing. Obama had a similar backchannel set up in 2012. Their purpose is to give the campaign volunteers and hyper-involved partisans good talking points to argue with their friends and family when discussing Hillary.
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Bunleigh posted:As long as we're all reminiscing about Romney, how about this classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGg0WsEw0Hg  Please join the run Mitt.   Please.
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Dahn posted:Gate opens in 10 mins His 757 is about an hour away from Mobile. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N757AF It's currently just a little before 6 PM. His event starts at 7 PM. The airport, which is very close to the stadium, is reporting clear skies although rain storms are close by. I bet they're trying for it.
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Venom Snake posted:How dare she explain how the system actually works instead of coming up with a soundbyte for twitter. I for one and offended that the HRC did not dumb things down to the intellectual level of a sewer roach like donald trump does. the American public has the attention span of a goldfish, if it's not compressible into a vine, it's not gonna stick
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I love how every single time there is a Clinton """"""""""scandal""""""""" people swear that this will finally be the one than sinks Bill or Hillary.
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Joementum posted:That's not really the point of The Briefing. Obama had a similar backchannel set up in 2012. Their purpose is to give the campaign volunteers and hyper-involved partisans good talking points to argue with their friends and family when discussing Hillary. Here's an example of the Obama campaign doing this in 2012: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkLeDyspXtc
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Joementum posted:Make sure to wear only your finest big mouth bass shirt to the Trump rally. Some of these guests on CNN are eating this poo poo up. "Trump has decided that the Republican party doesn't need minorities. As you can see live on the other screen, his voting base is exactly the people he thinks Republicans only need to win. White people." It was off a discussion how Republicans have been trying to get more base by courting Latino voters, and basically Trump just flushed any work they've done away forever. Not that there was any to begin with, but, you know. The party is fuuuucked.
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:and have to fall back on semantic arguments and arcane procedural history to justify your actions It suddenly occurs to me why D&D has a bunch of Hillary supporters.
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:It can't be any worse than how she's handled it so far. The fact the documents weren't classified when she accessed them along with the privilege the SoS is afforded when dealing with said documents has nothing to do with semantics or arcane procedural history.
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Venom Snake posted:It isn't a matter of "well technically it wasn't wrong" it's a matter of it not being wrong at all. You are also assuming this is for the average American voter when it's a YouTube video meant for politically aware people (IE smarter than your average sewer roach). We don't really know how they're going to play it going forward, and it doesn't sound (going off the Huffpo piece) that this is going to be the extent of it, but that instead it's going to be a significant part of their messaging. And, again, we don't really know how that's going to play out, but I don't think people ITT have a lot of faith in their ability to do it well, and justifiably so.
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Brannock posted:It suddenly occurs to me why D&D has a bunch of Hillary supporters. lol
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C'mon HIllary, get with the program. It's simple, "I love emails. I've always loved emails. Emails are my friends. Emails are great. I've always loved emails. But emails are a disaster. They're killing us."
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Joementum posted:Make sure to wear only your finest big mouth bass shirt to the Trump rally. is the man in black being detained
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Bob Ojeda posted:We don't really know how they're going to play it going forward, and it doesn't sound (going off the Huffpo piece) that this is going to be the extent of it, but that instead it's going to be a significant part of their messaging. People ITT don't have a lot of faith because Donald Trump has moved the level of intellectual political discourse from "mildly sentient house pet" to " pre-evolutionary moss". Everyone wants to see a dumb show of force and a man with a bad hair cut get in a twitter fight; not a well reasoned and accurate explanation of the situation. A YouTube video series is not going to kill Hillary's campaign.
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Bob Ojeda posted:The Ellen Page thing is probably great news for Cruz in the GOP primary. Please tell me this was Paige questioning Cruz on why he revoked his Canadian Citizenship
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Brannock posted:It suddenly occurs to me why D&D has a bunch of Hillary supporters. Hey, come on now. Some of us attempt to avoid the semantics arguments. Arcane details are gold, though. The more pedantry, minutiae and finely-split hair, the better.
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Do Not Resuscitate posted:I get where you're coming from and what you're saying, but it's not gonna fly with the general public because now you've got to get into when was the stuff classified and how and by whom and on and on you go down the rabbit hole of semantics that does nothing to dispel the generally held notion of "this whole thing seemed like a really bad idea to begin with and people usually launch into complicated explanations when they're lying about something." Again; how is "There was no wrong doing as the documents were not classified" going down a rabbit hole? I think people are just looking for things to complain about because it's Hillary Clinton and complaining about her or her campaign has become a meme at this point
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Venom Snake posted:People ITT don't have a lot of faith because Donald Trump has moved the level of intellectual political discourse from "mildly sentient house pet" to " pre-evolutionary moss". Everyone wants to see a dumb show of force and a man with a bad hair cut get in a twitter fight; not a well reasoned and accurate explanation of the situation. If a series of YouTube videos is all it is, it won't matter one way or the other. The HuffPo piece gave the impression that it was going to be something more significant and committed than that. Also, no, Donald Trump hasn't fundamentally changed the nature of political discourse. He's been really good at taking advantage of a lot of the ways in which our discourse is remarkably lovely, but it - and our understanding of it - predates him. Donald Trump is not responsible for the fact that it's much easier to convince people with a dumb show of force, and much more difficult to convince them with a well-reasoned and accurate explanation of the situation. But, as much as it might suck, that is kind of the world we live in. And the reason people don't have faith in Hillary's ability to do it is because she's spent a lot of time screwing it up. e: DOOP posted:Please tell me this was Paige questioning Cruz on why he revoked his Canadian Citizenship Page questioning Cruz over LGBT stuff.
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I just watched Trump's New Hampshire speech. At the end, in case anybody missed it, he agrees with someone from the audience that God needs to be back in government. Seems like he has the base covered.
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Frontier Airlines is a big fan of Deez Nuts.
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Bob Ojeda posted:
Venom Snake posted:it's Hillary Clinton and complaining about her or her campaign has become a meme at this point I love how everyone overlooks how well run the Obama campaign was in 2008, and acts like him being nominated was purely due to Hillary loving up. Like I said, it's a meme at this point. Hillary's campaign has made very smart moves in refusing to engage Donald Trump or any other of the retarded clowns that currently comprise the GOP 2016 line up, as well as staying positive when dealing with Bernie. Of course those smart moves will be overlooked because if we don't preform the daily ritual criticism of Clinton the sun god will forsake us and plunge the world into darkness.
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Venom Snake posted:I love how everyone overlooks how well run the Obama campaign was in 2008, and acts like him being nominated was purely due to Hillary loving up. Like I said, it's a meme at this point. Hillary's campaign has made very smart moves in refusing to engage Donald Trump or any other of the retarded clowns that currently comprise the GOP 2016 line up, as well as staying positive when dealing with Bernie. Of course those smart moves will be overlooked because if we don't preform the daily ritual criticism of Clinton the sun god will forsake us and plunge the world into darkness. but also, maybe sometimes Hillary Clinton screws up
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Slate Action posted:Trump/Nuts 2016 god that is such a great name combo
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Bob Ojeda posted:but also, maybe sometimes Hillary Clinton screws up Clinton screwing up is refusing to fire Mark Penn, what isn't screwing up is attempting to rationally explain the situation instead of having a meltdown.
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Venom Snake posted:Again; how is "There was no wrong doing as the documents were not classified" going down a rabbit hole? I think people are just looking for things to complain about because it's Hillary Clinton and complaining about her or her campaign has become a meme at this point Everyone gets where you're coming from but what you're talking about here is an emotional public with a short attention span and they've already made up their minds, Hillary mansplaining it is not doing anyone any good
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Venom Snake posted:Clinton screwing up is refusing to fire Mark Penn, what isn't screwing up is attempting to rationally explain the situation instead of having a meltdown. she could straight up "yeah this is some bs" have a clean, snappy answer in preparation for what's to come, and then just repeat it over and over again. instead it just looks like shes evading everything which kind of implicates her. its the same thing with romney's taxes. except she's probably innocent of any wrongdoing.
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Venom Snake posted:Clinton screwing up is refusing to fire Mark Penn, what isn't screwing up is attempting to rationally explain the situation instead of having a meltdown. It's possible. It just seems less likely to work, to me.
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