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Gamma Nerd posted:Psypheria I really like a bunch of these, thanks!
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If we're talking metal fan origin stories I went: Rob/White Zombie -> Dragonforce and Master of Puppets (and Octavarium) -> old school death metal (Atheist/Carcass/Death/Entombed) and Mastodon -> the rest. I didn't get into black metal until college and I hardly enjoy power metal at all anymore. Iron Maiden is somewhere in there too. Henchman of Santa fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Aug 29, 2015 |
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Aug 29, 2015 06:01
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This symphonic stuff peaked my interest. I've been looking for classical influenced metal for a bit now and I rarely find anything worth the claim. It can't be that hard to work in some Bach like polyphony, good not horribly cheesy operatic vocals, and so on. Most bands I find are either trying too hard to be avant garde and complex or they remind me of Malmsteen. I'd honestly prefer the latter.
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Aug 29, 2015 06:03
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Kilometers Davis posted:This symphonic stuff peaked my interest. I've been looking for classical influenced metal for a bit now and I rarely find anything worth the claim. It can't be that hard to work in some Bach like polyphony, good not horribly cheesy operatic vocals, and so on. Most bands I find are either trying too hard to be avant garde and complex or they remind me of Malmsteen. I'd honestly prefer the latter. Maybe something like Crimson Massacre? They use a lot of counterpoint (also the 2:40 and 3:10 riffs in that songs are among my favorite of all time). Early At the Gates too, of course. Bann, Nachtreich, Urfaust, Vehementer Nos and Pensees Nocturnes are black metal bands with bona fide chamber music tracks, though only Vehementer Nos and Nachtreich blend the two rather than segregating them (if I recall correctly). Also, check out Winds and Sculptured. They share a keyboardist, Andy Winter (he also has solo work and is in Age of Silence) and some chamber music influence. As for the Malmsteen-esque stuff, I personally think you can't go wrong with Japanese power metal a la Galneryus, Versailles, Light Bringer, and the like. It's hardly real classical music but Galneryus can write some amazing choruses, and have one of the best guitarists in the genre. I also think Unexpect have some classical influence but judge for yourself. I love the piano part under the chorus so much  It's basically the epitome of trying too hard to be avant-garde but they're amazing musicians and really skilled songwriters imo.
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Aug 29, 2015 07:13
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Kilometers Davis posted:This symphonic stuff peaked my interest. I've been looking for classical influenced metal for a bit now and I rarely find anything worth the claim. It can't be that hard to work in some Bach like polyphony, good not horribly cheesy operatic vocals, and so on. Most bands I find are either trying too hard to be avant garde and complex or they remind me of Malmsteen. I'd honestly prefer the latter. The vocals aren't what you are looking for, but check out Exmortus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT7q4fpxL0U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uRmn0aUMK4
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Kilometers Davis posted:This symphonic stuff peaked my interest. I've been looking for classical influenced metal for a bit now and I rarely find anything worth the claim. It can't be that hard to work in some Bach like polyphony, good not horribly cheesy operatic vocals, and so on. Most bands I find are either trying too hard to be avant garde and complex or they remind me of Malmsteen. I'd honestly prefer the latter. Symphonic metal isn't classically influenced at all, it's just people making metal with bombastic keyboards that sound like movie soundtracks.
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Real question: -Why don't people think that Lars Ulrich is a good drummer? I think he is.
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DEAR RICHARD posted:Real question:
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He's an ok drummer but people despise his personality which I think makes people dislike his mediocre drumming more than they should.
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Kvlt! posted:He's an ok drummer a good portion of ...and justice for all had to be cobbled together from snippets no more than a few seconds in length because the midget hack couldn't keep a beat worth poo poo. that was in 1988, when he was in his prime.
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funeral fag posted:a good portion of ...and justice for all had to be cobbled together from snippets no more than a few seconds in length because the midget hack couldn't keep a beat worth poo poo. that was in 1988, when he was in his prime. I stand corrected. Did not know that! Have you guys heard the new Pissgrave? It's loving DISGUSTING. Thought a lot of you might be interested in it. Page is not work safe by the way, real-life gory cover art. https://profoundlorerecords.bandcamp.com/album/suicide-euphoria
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Best Motorhead album is Bomber - so try that one if the last 7 or 8 (which are all essentially the same album) dont do much for ya.
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Lars is a perfect drummer for mid-paced hard rock like some of the Black Album and Load. He is a medicore drummer for thrash.
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Aug 29, 2015 14:35
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Motorhead tried to do a show last night, and Lemmy had to quit after 4 songs.  Probably time to retire buddy.
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AgentJotun posted:Best Motorhead album is Bomber - so try that one if the last 7 or 8 (which are all essentially the same album) dont do much for ya. 
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xzzy posted:Motorhead tried to do a show last night, and Lemmy had to quit after 4 songs. It's gotten to the point where I'd rather Lemmy just cancel touring and take it easy for a bit then go on and play a few songs then leave.
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Kvlt! posted:I stand corrected. Did not know that! It was posted a few pages back. I like it, but few others in here seem to.
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caiman posted:It was posted a few pages back. I like it, but few others in here seem to. Oops my bad, sorry. I think it's good but I can see the novelty of it wearing off quickly...I'm interested to see future releases to see if they can keep things fresh.
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funeral fag posted:a good portion of ...and justice for all had to be cobbled together from snippets no more than a few seconds in length because the midget hack couldn't keep a beat worth poo poo. that was in 1988, when he was in his prime. After they were finished recording Flemming Rasmussen suggested they hold a raffle for the fan club where they could win a paper bag full of the tape cuttings from Lars' drum tracks. The funniest thing is when people defend Lars' lack of skill by saying "oh he has a jazz-like timing on his fills". Nah, he sounds like Buddy Rich's impression of rock drummers using match grip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0V4Aqs2D48 grip Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Aug 29, 2015 |
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Aug 29, 2015 17:39
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Hannes Grossman, Christian Muenzner and others Alkaloid - Carbon Phrases https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s3oRHTrbuk fretless bass, some of my favorite solos, I've had it on repeat for a while now
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Aug 29, 2015 18:06
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Hell yes Alkaloid! That whole album is phenomenal. Just the right amount of technical flare without veering into outright bombast. For something else great... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oak9gGTmjk Check out the understated guitar flourishes during the verses. Jesus.
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Aug 29, 2015 21:28
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New Mgła album streaming in its entirety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvGPAVTYfXI
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BurningBeard posted:Hell yes Alkaloid! That whole album is phenomenal. Just the right amount of technical flare without veering into outright bombast. For something else great... I like everything about this, but the vocals let it down
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Kilometers Davis posted:This symphonic stuff peaked my interest. I've been looking for classical influenced metal for a bit now and I rarely find anything worth the claim. It can't be that hard to work in some Bach like polyphony, good not horribly cheesy operatic vocals, and so on. Most bands I find are either trying too hard to be avant garde and complex or they remind me of Malmsteen. I'd honestly prefer the latter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSitDIEvkiU e: and most of their output is very much not for you, but Solefald's In Harmonia Universali is huge on the Bach polyphony: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvPZrvWM2Xc Vulture Culture fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Aug 30, 2015 |
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caiman posted:New Mgła album streaming in its entirety: This is beautiful.
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I'm looking for clean vocals with unclean backing vocals on choruses and poo poo like that. Kind of like Inhuman Rampage from Dragonforce, but less actual Dragonforce. Symphonic metal would be ideal. To actually contribute, here's what I've been rocking the past few weeks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9GWNFLHg58 Loving that late 80s thrash poo poo.
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caiman posted:New Mgła album streaming in its entirety: So you guys killed it last time I asked for recommendations. I've got something else I'm looking for now. All the Soilwork talk earlier reminded me that I love their older material. I even liked their mid-period stuff when they went blatantly accessible. With that in mind, I'm looking for melodeath with huge melodic hooks in the choruses. Be shameless. I don't care how disgustingly overproduced the stuff is as long as there's enough brutality to even out the shine. Do like: Soilwork, Disarmonia Mundi, Omnium Gatherum, Insomnium. Do not like: In Flames. Basically if Omnium Gatherum did more melodic clean vocs they'd be the ideal of what I'm looking for.
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Vargatron posted:I'm looking for clean vocals with unclean backing vocals on choruses and poo poo like that. Kind of like Inhuman Rampage from Dragonforce, but less actual Dragonforce. Symphonic metal would be ideal. Crimson Shadows are literally Dragonforce with harsh vocals and they rule. BurningBeard posted:Do like: Soilwork, Disarmonia Mundi, Omnium Gatherum, Insomnium. Honestly, Blood Stain Child. Epsilon has the catchiest choruses ever.
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BurningBeard posted:==
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BurningBeard posted:loving great. Need to give it some more time to see how it stacks up against With Hearts Toward None... but I'm liking the odds already. Raunchy is pretty good for that. The vocals on the verses are so/so but the choruses are very melodic and tight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-hXm74TJVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIeliv10-Z0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg4n8qyFJsA Also, Het is right. Killswitch is also pretty good when it comes to the melodic heavy choruses.
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BurningBeard posted:loving great. Need to give it some more time to see how it stacks up against With Hearts Toward None... but I'm liking the odds already. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-r8jjV4pXg as a bonus they jammed huge 80s style solos into their melodeath.
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BurningBeard posted:loving great. Need to give it some more time to see how it stacks up against With Hearts Toward None... but I'm liking the odds already. How do you like Insomnium and not like the first 3 or 4 In Flames albums?
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BurningBeard posted:So you guys killed it last time I asked for recommendations. I've got something else I'm looking for now. All the Soilwork talk earlier reminded me that I love their older material. I even liked their mid-period stuff when they went blatantly accessible. With that in mind, I'm looking for melodeath with huge melodic hooks in the choruses. Be shameless. I don't care how disgustingly overproduced the stuff is as long as there's enough brutality to even out the shine. Maybe some Scar Symmetry? At least their older stuff, I'm not familiar with their later albums. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq7Mn8sw4Tk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8R1E8wu4xE
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Nordick posted:Maybe some Scar Symmetry? At least their older stuff, I'm not familiar with their later albums. Their first three albums with the original singer are some of my favorite melodeath releases. Pretty much every track has a least one good riff in it.
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BurningBeard posted:loving great. Need to give it some more time to see how it stacks up against With Hearts Toward None... but I'm liking the odds already. This album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9564PGEuaY
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The new Iron Maiden album is surprisingly good. The longer tracks don't just drone on and on and there's been some thought put into most of the choruses.
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BurningBeard posted:loving great. Need to give it some more time to see how it stacks up against With Hearts Toward None... but I'm liking the odds already. It's not really what you're looking for here, but if you're looking at Melodeath, it doesn't get better than At The Gates - Slaughter Of The Soul. No clean vocals and there's a fair bit of Slayer worship, so it might be a bit of a challenge, but it's well worth a look regardless.
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Defiant Sally posted:How do you like Insomnium and not like the first 3 or 4 In Flames albums? My exposure to In Flames never went as far back as their '90s output and the newer stuff was so offensively bad to me that I never went back to check out the old stuff. Plus any time Anders is doing something other than gargling glass, he's awful. Whereas Insomnium has the deep nasty bellow all the time, which I love. Checking out Whoracle though, and it's pretty good. Not what I was looking for but still. Already quite familiar with Killswitch, At The Gates, and Scar Symmetry. Generally I'm looking for more obscure or second-string recs because I've mined the big stuff already. Scar Symmetry is right on point for what I'm after though. Thanks for reminding me that they exist. Illdisposed is fun. Raunchy is close to what I want. I'm annoying and picky.
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BurningBeard posted:My exposure to In Flames never went as far back as their '90s output https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ojVeDn7Z1w e: here's some overproduced schlock from 2005 that probably fits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tElreHJrusM
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BurningBeard posted:
You, me, and most people who post in this thread fit under that description. Anyway, Raunchy took some time to grow on me as well but when it clicked, I loved it. The riffs are good enough but the choruses are the absolute best for me. They just do it for me. I've never really heard much of In Flames except Jester Race which is good, Reroute which has 2-3 good songs, Soundtrack to your escape is which is terrible, and Come Clarity which was great. I still need to check out the first half of their discography though as people keep telling me I'm missing out.
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