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Kalman posted:You should really read that again. Table 1 in both cases. Bernie's "Don't Know"s are higher than any other candidate's. That's not weakness, it's potential.
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Helical Nightmares posted:Trump skit on Fallon http://variety.com/2015/tv/news/donald-trump-jimmy-fallon-tonight-1201591439/ the ENTIRE JOKE is that he has no platform. holy loving poo poo its 2015
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Sinnlos posted:please keep in mind that this does not invalidate my complaint that Bernie tends to frame things in regards to class-based issues while Hillary has an actual track record of working with minorities. Hmm you talk about Bernie's policies and then with Hillary instead of policies you talk about her "working with minorities" instead, I wonder why that is.
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Brannock posted:the vast majority of people who snidely whinge and handwring about this are extremely and embarrassingly white
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Brannock posted:snidely whinge and handwring lol are you from the UK or the 1800s?
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i know leftists are tired of getting their hopes crushed but it seems silly not to be at least a little hopeful when a candidate like bernie has been gaining in the polls since the race began despite being ignored by the media
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TEAYCHES posted:no i dont think something like the bbc for america is a good idea. id honestly rather have the fractional new media weird poo poo going on now than pumping f-35 fighter money into pbs too late: lockheed is a pbs underwriter
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Helical Nightmares posted:Sept 11 Quinnipiac poll. Scott Walker losing to Don't Know, hahahaha
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NotWearingPants posted:Beau Biden served in Iraq. NotWearingPants posted:I am sorry the self congratulatory emotion you feel about the death of a rich midde aged white man does not also extend to brown children murdered by drones and bombs. Guess what bitch. I was going to caucus for Bernie Sanders, but now I'm not, just because of you and how much I hate you. Think I'm kidding? I've done dumber things for dumber reasons. I want you to reflect on that. On how poor an ambassador you are for a cause that means so much to you. You are the WORST (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Unsurprisingly, it's still very easy to troll Donald Trump on Twitter. 
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Fish Cant Hold Gun posted:Guess what bitch. I was going to caucus for Bernie Sanders, but now I'm not, just because of you and how much I hate you. Think I'm kidding? I've done dumber things for dumber reasons. I want you to reflect on that. On how poor an ambassador you are for a cause that means so much to you. Admitting it's dumb is not entirely making up for the fact that you're making decisions like that over a forums poster.
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Fish Cant Hold Gun posted:Guess what bitch. I was going to caucus for Bernie Sanders, but now I'm not, just because of you and how much I hate you. Think I'm kidding? I've done dumber things for dumber reasons. I want you to reflect on that. On how poor an ambassador you are for a cause that means so much to you. I don't think anything of value was lost if you're going to be an accelerationist about a single poster on the somethingawful.com forums.
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Fish Cant Hold Gun posted:Guess what bitch. I was going to caucus for Bernie Sanders, but now I'm not, just because of you and how much I hate you. Think I'm kidding? I've done dumber things for dumber reasons. I want you to reflect on that. On how poor an ambassador you are for a cause that means so much to you. Primo poo poo right here
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Sinnlos posted:please keep in mind that this does not invalidate my complaint that Bernie tends to frame things in regards to class-based issues while Hillary has an actual track record of working with minorities. Good point, America needs more identity politics and less attention to economic issues.
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Fish Cant Hold Gun posted:Guess what bitch. I was going to caucus for Bernie Sanders, but now I'm not, just because of you and how much I hate you. Think I'm kidding? I've done dumber things for dumber reasons. I want you to reflect on that. On how poor an ambassador you are for a cause that means so much to you. Fish Cant Hold Gun, Brain Cant Hold Maturity Helical Nightmares fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Sep 12, 2015 |
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Sep 12, 2015 13:03
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Whoever said we should split the nom threads into republican and the hillary/bernie holy war was right, because holy jesus I just want to see people make fun of republicans or support Bernie, not this garbage. The Bernie Hillary fight deserves it's own cage because god drat do people get upset, and half the time both people arguing are going to vote for Bernie in the primary anyway, Good god people.
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Sep 12, 2015 13:22
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I see we've officially shifted from "people like him cuz they're unhappy with the status quo" to "holy poo poo gently caress that guy"
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railroad terror posted:I see we've officially shifted from "people like him cuz they're unhappy with the status quo" to "holy poo poo gently caress that guy" Both of them are in danger of slipping out of the bottom of the polls. Trump gets attention, and if you're interacting with Trump, you'll get part of that attention. I guess at this point you're trying to peel off people who think Trump's message is too racist or too socialist.
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railroad terror posted:I see we've officially shifted from "people like him cuz they're unhappy with the status quo" to "holy poo poo gently caress that guy" The other candidates look at the withered corpse of the Perry campaign and see intimations of their own mortality.
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Zwabu posted:The other candidates look at the withered corpse of the Perry campaign and see intimations of their own mortality. It's like when Sauron handed out the nine rings to mortal men, doomed to die, and after the first guy turned into a ghost monster I bet the others were like 'oh gently caress'
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Twitter is making this whole thing less entertaining. The whole petulant manchild slapfight thing is funny because of the veneer of legitimacy applied to it in the form of debates and expensive campaign ads. Twitter slapfights are the sort of thing actual petulant children engage in, so it really just makes them seem childish to the point of pity. I mean, these aren't good people, but they're still people. How do they sleep at night knowing the last hope of their campaign is calling someone a shithead on Twitter as hard as they loving can? This is like first season DBZ when all the lovely humans are getting killed one by one by Napa, but everybody's like, "We just gotta fight harder, guys" knowing full well they're basically stalling til Goku gets back.
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Fish Cant Hold Gun posted:Guess what bitch. I was going to caucus for Bernie Sanders, but now I'm not, just because of you and how much I hate you. Think I'm kidding? I've done dumber things for dumber reasons. I want you to reflect on that. On how poor an ambassador you are for a cause that means so much to you. you need to take a break from reading posts
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Posted this in the Hillary/Sanders thread, but I think it would be relevant here too. I've been reading this topic, and trying to find out why people that identify as democrats and don't want to vote for Sanders in the Primaries...don't want to vote for Sanders in the Primaries. Here are a number of factors I have seen/read about until now. Feedback is needed from people that identify with them, so that we can quantify their importance. 1. He is going to lose in the general elections against X Republican. I must vote for the lesser of two evils (or for someone that simply can take the Presidency for the Democratic party). 2. His views on [insert single policy issue] are wrong, and I'm a single issue voter / feel too strongly about that to vote for him. 3. There is no way that he could win the nomination, so why vote for him? 4. He is unfit to be a President (age / religion) 5. He is not a Democrat. 6. Even if voted for POTUS, he would accomplish nothing (adversarial agenda, hostile Senate/house/state legislatures). 7. It will be very difficult to have him start a "political revolution" that returns the Senate/house/state legislatures back to Democrat control after two years in office. 8. Being a POTUS means compromise and bipartisan support, he has neither. 9. The establishment will never let him win, so why vote for him? 10. His agenda if enacted will devastate the country, either through the policies themselves, or the establishment backlash/reaction. 11. He is never going to win over the minority voters from Hillary, so why vote for him? 12. He doesn't have the money to win. 13. He is a loving socialist running for POTUS. Whatever that means, republican reflexes and attack ads will barbecue him in the general. 14. This is definitely NOT what the country needs at this time. 15. I simply like more democratic candidate [_________________] for POTUS. 16. Bernie Sanders identifies less with [insert specific voter group here] and I belong to that group. 17. Bernie Sanders' supporters are idiots/crazy/rude. Why would I want to be(come) one of them? 18. He has no name recognition. So I won't vote for him (because I don't know him or because other people don't know him). 19. He licks his loving lips too much. Any more? If you are in line with some of the above factors, can you give your personal perspective on them? Dante80 fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Sep 12, 2015 |
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He licks his own b-hole
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You forgot name recognition. And licking his own turd cutter.
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where is "he tongues his own butt"? e:fb
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bobtheconqueror posted:Twitter is making this whole thing less entertaining. The whole petulant manchild slapfight thing is funny because of the veneer of legitimacy applied to it in the form of debates and expensive campaign ads. Twitter slapfights are the sort of thing actual petulant children engage in, so it really just makes them seem childish to the point of pity. I mean, these aren't good people, but they're still people. How do they sleep at night knowing the last hope of their campaign is calling someone a shithead on Twitter as hard as they loving can? If every Republican candidate for president dies of shame, all that'd mean is they had one moment of self-awareness. To use your analogy, the only reason they're fighting Napa is to steal the scouter for themselves so they can dominate everyone else. They're not even anti-heroes, they're just ludicrously inept villians.
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its a shame ill never see rick perry and donald trump outdo each other in pull up contests. another thing Perry failed to deliver so thank god hes not running, what kind of president would he be if he couldn't deliver on really simple challenges. Lastgirl fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Sep 12, 2015 |
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Jewel Repetition posted:Did this thread get linked in the D&D thread or something?
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Bryter posted:You know this thread was started in D&D and existed there for like half a year, right? It has also existed in one form or another since before Obama was elected, and was always one of the most popular threads in D&D. We are all here together now, so 
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comes along bort posted:You forgot name recognition. Added as 18.
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Dante80 posted:Added as 18. The election would look like this if in the very unlikely scenario Sanders was the nominee.  or this  Replace Nixon/Reagan with Bush.
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Bernie and Trump are fun outsiders who have tapped into populist energy, but they are vying for the leadership of entrenched massive political machines. This is the real primary: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-endorsement-primary/ Hilary won it MONTHS ago.
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Mitt Romney posted:The election would look like this if in the very unlikely scenario Sanders was the nominee. So, I guess that the reason you voting Hillary is... 1. He is going to lose in the general elections against X Republican. I must vote for the lesser of two evils (or for someone that simply can take the Presidency for the Democratic party). 4. He is unfit to be a President (age / religion). 13. He is a loving socialist running for POTUS. Whatever that means, republican reflexes and attack ads will barbecue him in the general. Which if the three factors do you think resonates more with you?
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Montasque posted:Bernie and Trump are fun outsiders who have tapped into populist energy, but they are vying for the leadership of entrenched massive political machines. lmao five thirty eight
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All Romney True Believers 4 Years Ago posted:lmao five thirty eight
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"Hmm that Bernie Sanders fellow seems nice but I heard he wants to raise TAXES" - A general election voter
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