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Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

I just noticed Afterbirth is offering an "alternative soundtrack"

The return of Danny B?

Meowywitch fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Sep 21, 2015

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Dodecalypse
Jun 21, 2012


SKA SUCKS

Volt Catfish posted:

I just noticed Afterbirth is offering an "alternative soundtrack"

The return of Danny B?

ugh i wish

also look at this fanart i nabbed off twitter:

https://twitter.com/Perplexmate/status/645789840701722624

Skunkrocker
Jan 14, 2012

Your favorite furry wrestler.
Lokii on Death's scythe. Cute.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

Well, I finally unlocked Isaac's D6 - accidentally, via the Ankh and a Homing Mom's Knife, both of which I got from one of those red rooms that randomises you. Guess the game really wanted me to have it.

I also tried to use Pheromones on It Lives. It felt like that part in Old World Blues where you can hit on your own brain, but wronger.

BreakAtmo fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Sep 21, 2015

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe
Update: Just a simple look at what the Daily Run leaderboards look like

quote:

as the weeks blow by, im faced with the issue of wanting to do fun posts.. but also not wanting to spoil much more so lauch will be a lot more exciting, so this week im just going to expand a bit on daily runs.

for those that dont know, daily runs are daily seeds that are identical to everyone who plays them. these runs are broken down into score and feature leader boards for both high score and best time.

the daily run screen looks like this.

quote:

ive already completed this run (aka died) so i can no longer play the run for score, though i can still practice to see if i can do better with a bit more knowledge, ive also used this option as “what if i took this item instead” path to see how it may have effected the run.

you can also see a character icon, this is the character you’ll be playing as, in the next update this page will also show an icon for your set “goal” ie. kill mom, kill the heart, satan, mega satan, etc.

quote:

todays run was a harsh one… mainly because its monday and just to make sure you hate mondays more.. monday is “hard mode” day!

there is a lot we can do with dailys and i wouldnt be surprised if we saw special holiday runs, like hard mode + the lost + mega satan for thanksgiving!

i know you guys dont want achievements tied to global highscores.. but id really love to do something special for the winners that doesnt make completionists lose their minds.. we will see what happens.

anywho, maybe next week ill show a new item, or item combos.. or new music or somethin.. or maybe ill just keep playing daily runs over and over and over… im telling you guys, daily runs will change you…

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Adding a post-attempt practice mode for daily runs is a good idea, too many games with daily runs give you one shot and then never let you play that seed again even if it was fun (Spelunky :()

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

Haha yeah like giving something to small percentage of players won't make people lost it.

Inside Out Mom
Jan 9, 2004

Franklin B. Znorps
Dignity, Class, Internet
Got my first Chest win last night! Started as Maggie and got mom's knife on floor one, and a small rock from an exploding spider taking out a tinted rock. Found the one book that gives you soul hearts (Revelations?) and things just snow balled from there. Loving this game, and I know I probably won't get all the achievements before Afterbirth comes out, but I'm not all that worried. Having a blast working my way through at my own pace.

Edmund Honda
Sep 27, 2003

Wonder if the game's going to get some kind of protection against CheatEngine-type editing.

Making a big deal out of the leaderboards is a bit pointless if nothing else changes

kemikalkadet
Sep 16, 2012

:woof:

Edmund Honda posted:

Wonder if the game's going to get some kind of protection against CheatEngine-type editing.

Making a big deal out of the leaderboards is a bit pointless if nothing else changes

I'm sure it'll be fine, they're usually pretty good with this stuff

omeg
Sep 3, 2012


To be fair Nicalis didn't make SMB. Still, you can't really protect a game from memory editing. If I can run it, I can break it.

flyboi
Oct 13, 2005

agg stop posting
College Slice

omeg posted:

To be fair Nicalis didn't make SMB. Still, you can't really protect a game from memory editing. If I can run it, I can break it.

You can make it obfuscated to at least make it a complete pain in the rear end. One method is to sign your variables through encryption and multiple sanity checks which makes using a cheat engine a bit more a PITA but for most people that makes absolutely no sense, is greedy to processing power and a waste of effort. Either way it won't be addressed.

Samopsa
Nov 9, 2009

Krijgt geen speciaal kerstdiner!
You can also include server-side checks, like calculating the max score per reached floor, or if the dropped items match the seed etc.
also flyboi post gizmo

IUG
Jul 14, 2007



I can't find this post for whatever reason (probably because I don't do the default 40 posts per page). Can someone quote what this is, if the link works for them?

kemikalkadet
Sep 16, 2012

:woof:

IUG posted:

I can't find this post for whatever reason (probably because I don't do the default 40 posts per page). Can someone quote what this is, if the link works for them?

charliesome posted:

Ugh, so I was playing Super Meat Boy today and it segfaulted. I had a look at the stack trace (hey I'm a programmer, that poo poo's interesting!) and I noticed a couple of mysql_* functions in the stack trace.

I was a little amused, so I posted about it on Twitter. The official super meat boy account replied:



I tweeted back saying "I hope that's a local database..." (ok so let's ignore the fact that it'd be strange for a game to have a full on MySQL installation as a dependency. They responded with just a simple "why?". Alarm bells start ringing around this time.

Anyhow I was pretty curious so I fired up gdb and set a breakpoint on 'mysql_real_connect' and dumped out the parameters:



(yes, those are the MySQL host, username and password that I've redacted there)

I tried logging in with those credentials and holy gently caress it worked:



I replied to them with a screenshot of the Sequel Pro window but they remained indifferent - even pulling the authority I-know-what-I'm-doing card. Yeah right.



Anyhow that escalated to emails and they still didn't give a flying gently caress. (read in reverse order)



"You are not showing me anything I don't already know." -- what the gently caress? This stubborn fellow knows that his MySQL database is open to the world and he doesn't care? Oh well, if he doesn't care then I don't care.

It's poo poo like this that makes me laugh/cry all the time.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


IUG posted:

I can't find this post for whatever reason (probably because I don't do the default 40 posts per page). Can someone quote what this is, if the link works for them?

It's more of a starting point. But the long and short seems to be that some goon figured out Super Meat Boy game client directly interacted with a MySQL database, which is apparently not something you should do from a coding standpoint, as the Goon was able to pull the credentials out and show that was able to directly access said database. He pointed this out to a SMB dev who kinda just told him of and said it was fine.

It was not fine because once word got out, other people hosed with the database and the SMB dev acted all butthurt about people on the internet being lovely despite the fact he was warned this exact thing could happen.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox
There should be an item that lets you unbreak the donation machine. So frustrating to have a ton of money to donate and then it breaks after the first cent.

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


Problem is with a penny a battery and blank card jera rune you could get the donation machine to 999 in one run with that

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

LionYeti posted:

Problem is with a penny a battery and blank card jera rune you could get the donation machine to 999 in one run with that

Ok so make it a one-time-use item and the machine can still break again.

Honestly though I don't see the issue with putting a ton of money into the machine at once though. If someone is versed enough with the game to know how to get unlimited money then just let them do it. All you get out of it in the long run is a shop that doesn't suck rear end and a couple item unlocks. Frankly I find it annoying to have to fill up the machine again every time I get Isaac on a different system.

Vegastar
Jan 2, 2005

Tigers will do anything for a tuna sandwich.


PantsBandit posted:

Ok so make it a one-time-use item and the machine can still break again.

Honestly though I don't see the issue with putting a ton of money into the machine at once though. If someone is versed enough with the game to know how to get unlimited money then just let them do it. All you get out of it in the long run is a shop that doesn't suck rear end and a couple item unlocks. Frankly I find it annoying to have to fill up the machine again every time I get Isaac on a different system.

To strike a balance, I'd like to see a Token trinket that you can put in the donation machine for 25c in credit. It'd speed stuff up without letting everything be broken as hell.

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

Vegastar posted:

To strike a balance, I'd like to see a Token trinket that you can put in the donation machine for 25c in credit. It'd speed stuff up without letting everything be broken as hell.

This would be cool

IMJack
Apr 16, 2003

Royalty is a continuous ripping and tearing motion.


Fun Shoe
Honestly once you've unlocked everything the Donation Box can give you it becomes the Cash For Bombs machine. Restock it when you have spare money in Depths/Necropolis 2 and you can keep it around 100 without much difficulty or attention.

Remember to blow up the shopkeeper when you bomb the box the first time each level for that extra 20% Devil/Angel Room chance.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

IMJack posted:

Honestly once you've unlocked everything the Donation Box can give you it becomes the Cash For Bombs machine. Restock it when you have spare money in Depths/Necropolis 2 and you can keep it around 100 without much difficulty or attention.

Remember to blow up the shopkeeper when you bomb the box the first time each level for that extra 20% Devil/Angel Room chance.

Oh poo poo how am I just finding out that the shopkeeper counts for that too. I thought it was just beggars/gamblers.

HenryEx
Mar 25, 2009

...your cybernetic implants, the only beauty in that meat you call "a body"...
Grimey Drawer

PantsBandit posted:

Oh poo poo how am I just finding out that the shopkeeper counts for that too. I thought it was just beggars/gamblers.

It's just 10%, but yeah. Shopkeepers count.

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

Well after 41 hours of Lost runs, I finally have Godhead unlocked. Do I have to do unseeded runs for item pick ups to register on the item screen or can I just cheese my way to RPG? I'm missing like 11 item pick ups and then I'm done till Afterbirth.

Meowywitch
Jan 14, 2010

Fight for all that is beautiful in the world

HenryEx posted:

It's just 10%, but yeah. Shopkeepers count.

Where can I see more coding breakdowns? It's fascinating finding out how the game works

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

Zaggitz posted:

Well after 41 hours of Lost runs, I finally have Godhead unlocked. Do I have to do unseeded runs for item pick ups to register on the item screen or can I just cheese my way to RPG? I'm missing like 11 item pick ups and then I'm done till Afterbirth.

Unseeded, iirc. Just do a ton of runs with Isaac resetting after the first item room. Unless you need devil/god room items in which case do that anyway but reset after Basement 2.

The ideology eater
Oct 20, 2010

IT'S GARBAGE DAY AT WENDY'S FUCK YEAH WE EATIN GOOD TONIGHT

AnonSpore posted:

Unseeded, iirc. Just do a ton of runs with Isaac resetting after the first item room. Unless you need devil/god room items in which case do that anyway but reset after Basement 2.

Or you could just play the game and it'll happen anyways eventually and be way more fun!

AnonSpore
Jan 19, 2012

"I didn't see the part where he develops as a character so I guess he never developed as a character"

LorrdErnie posted:

Or you could just play the game and it'll happen anyways eventually and be way more fun!

Speaking from personal experience if you've just finished running the Lost gauntlet I think the last thing on your mind at that point is playing the game more, for fun or otherwise

The ideology eater
Oct 20, 2010

IT'S GARBAGE DAY AT WENDY'S FUCK YEAH WE EATIN GOOD TONIGHT
I dunno, I find playing characters that aren't the lost to be fun because you can play the game normally but I didn't actually do all his unlocks I just tried for a while and downloaded a 100% save so your mileage may vary I suppose.

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

I think I'll just take a break for a little while and come back to get the rest of the items a week or two before Afterbirth.

Mental Midget
Apr 18, 2005

We're glad you could play SQIV. As usual, you've been a real pantload.

LorrdErnie posted:

I dunno, I find playing characters that aren't the lost to be fun because you can play the game normally but I didn't actually do all his unlocks I just tried for a while and downloaded a 100% save so your mileage may vary I suppose.

That's what I did too and no regrets because Eden runs are way more fun with all the items unlocked.

Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
I really REALLY hate spiders. Last four runs I've been snagged by those fuckers leaping halfway across the room.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

Lasher posted:

I really REALLY hate spiders. Last four runs I've been snagged by those fuckers leaping halfway across the room.

Not sure where you are skill wise but if you're looking for tips, spiders can generally be beaten by just staying mobile. The majority of them will home in on you but as long as you keep moving away from them they probably won't be able to catch up. Of course, if you get cornered you're probably going to take a hit so you also have to try and give yourself an escape route.

BreakAtmo
May 16, 2009

PantsBandit posted:

Not sure where you are skill wise but if you're looking for tips, spiders can generally be beaten by just staying mobile. The majority of them will home in on you but as long as you keep moving away from them they probably won't be able to catch up. Of course, if you get cornered you're probably going to take a hit so you also have to try and give yourself an escape route.

I always have trouble with spiders. They totally can catch up to me, and it's a real pain trying to dodge multiple ones when they move so erratically. The little ones can be such a pain since there's often so many of them, but they do just as much damage as the others. It honestly feels like Edmund designed them as the sort of tiny, numerous enemy that deals chip damage, but then didn't actually put chip damage in the game. Sometimes I think the game should have quarter-heart damage.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox
Ah, yeah let me clarify. They'll jump (the distance depends on the spider type) faster than you can move. Except for your basic black spiders who will head towards you but you should be able to outrun. So ideally, if there's a group of spiders all aggroed on you, you should try to keep moving in a clockwise or counterclockwise direction. That way when they jump they miss you on the left or right of where you were.

It's hard to give advice that applies to all room layout/spider types but that's my general strategy. And yeah, they are definitely the most obnoxious early game enemies. Especially those loving bomb spiders.

Dammerung
Oct 17, 2008

"Dang, that's hot."


PantsBandit posted:

Except for your basic black spiders who will head towards you but you should be able to outrun.

Are you talking about the large spindly ones? Because they can definitely move faster than Isaac can potentially move, save using How to Jump or one of the ponies.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

Dammerung posted:

Are you talking about the large spindly ones? Because they can definitely move faster than Isaac can potentially move, save using How to Jump or one of the ponies.

I'm talking about the standard small/large black ones. Meaning the big one that breaks into two little ones when you shoot it.

Dammerung
Oct 17, 2008

"Dang, that's hot."


PantsBandit posted:

I'm talking about the standard small/large black ones. Meaning the big one that breaks into two little ones when you shoot it.

Ah, all right! Those are still terrible, though. I feel like they take more damage than they should be capable of taking before splitting.

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Diesel Fucker
Aug 14, 2003

I spent my rent money on tentacle porn.
My main beef is with the pink ones. They always seem to leap half way across the room and clock me. Skill wise I'd say I'm pretty good. Just the odd bastards who always catch me out.

Just had an INSANE run with Eve. WHore of Babylon active (naturally) quad shot with scythes and eventually anti-grav tears. They were half the size of the room by the end. Bonkers.

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