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Al-Saqr posted:I don't know who's Dan Slott, but I know who Spiderman and peter parker, and he's not someone who's successful day in, day out. Save that for a different character, or better yet, make what you're saying apply to Iron Man. Living under global capitalism means that you're going to have to learn that there's a good chance you'll end up being ground to dirt, Peter Parker was one of those people, but for a different era, maybe they could've changed his job or whatever but kept his overall social status so that's he's not a supremely unattainable persona to most people, you haven't just changed how much money he has, you've changed who he is, and a steely silicon valley business man who says fancy words but lives like a baller is not the reason why so many people liked spider man/peter parker to begin with. You're thinking of Tony Stark. Any way I'm sorry to come across as rude, I didn't realize you were new to comic books. You're describing Peter as he hasn't been in a long time, and I think that the modern take on him is both interesting and different.
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Die Laughing posted:Sounds like you should be reading Spider-Man instead of Amazing Spider-Man. I don't know about all the geopolitical stuff, but it was a fun book about Spider-Man punching a dude in an animal costume and being a good guy. I'll take it.
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Wanderer posted:The fact of the matter is that Peter Parker in the 616 hasn't been the "everyman hero" for a while now, and there have been a lot of contortions to attempt to keep him in that role for a while that haven't entirely been successful. He's been an Avenger for more than a decade, and one of the biggest plot holes in the canon for decades has been that Peter could've been a millionaire whenever he wanted by patenting the web fluid. You might as well take the internationally-known, A-list super-hero and have him apply his convictions to benevolent multi-national capitalism for a while, since that's at least a fresh direction. He learns Mandrin in a few lessons, that is really stupid. I hate when stories do that, unless you are writting about a supergenius, don't do that poo poo.
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I miss having books that had giant issue numbers. I admit to not buying ASM 512, but it was comforting to see it on the shelves. When they bring back Fantastic Four I hope they don't do it with a number 1.
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zoux posted:You're thinking of Tony Stark. To be fair, he always ends up that way in the end. I don't think now will be any different.
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CharlestheHammer posted:He learns Mandrin in a few lessons, that is really stupid. Peter Parker, noted dimwit dullard.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 22:39 |
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Cabbit posted:Peter Parker, noted dimwit dullard. He gets owned by bricks. Multple times, this is canon.
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CharlestheHammer posted:He learns Mandrin in a few lessons, that is really stupid. He's a renowned international genius and he had eight months. I figure that's probably enough to carry on a conversation, although it would've been smarter if he had an awful accent or something.
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Cabbit posted:Peter Parker, noted dimwit dullard. He's frequently beaten by a stray brick?
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Also all he said was "Hey Shanghai I love you". Unless I'm forgetting something.
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Skwirl posted:He's frequently beaten by a stray brick? CharlestheHammer posted:He gets owned by bricks. You've reminded me how disappointed I was that this didn't come up in the Spiderverse story involving newspaper Spidey.
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CharlestheHammer posted:He learns Mandrin in a few lessons, that is really stupid. I've said this before, but there was a Batman OGN that took place in China, and a lot of the story was about how he doesn't speak Chinese and still has to solve a mystery. I can't imagine anyone would write a "smart" character having that problem in a modern big two comic, much less Batman, who is Always Prepared for Everything.
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# ? Oct 7, 2015 23:41 |
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If John Cena can learn enough Mandarin to not embarrass himself I'm sure Spider-Man can.
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God every thread is putting John Cena over today.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 00:41 |
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zoux posted:God every thread is putting John Cena over today. Love him or hate him, you've gotta him.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 01:14 |
I really don't approve of how this boring wrestler has become a meme these past few months.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 01:21 |
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Cena has done enough charity work that I don't mind him showing up in random threads. Aside from this post I'm not going to actively participate in Cena chat, but it hasn't gotten to the point that it's seriously annoying.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 01:27 |
I kinda hated how much I enjoyed Amazing. That Kraven joke was stellar and it was nice fun all around, though I rolled my eyes when it was brought up in-book that he was just a poor man's Tony Stark. Felt cheated when the Miles portion of the book was actually another teaser for Amazing. But speaking of Spider-books, Spider-Island was kinda stellar. I really, really liked it and kinda wish that's how things would've panned out for Flash regarding Peter. Also dinosaurs make everything better.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 01:40 |
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I mean gently caress Dan Slott but I loved ASM #1.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 03:18 |
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I think my favorite part of ASM was adding Hobie Brown back to the cast. Not only is he a cool character with a long history but also his name is Hobie and that's fun to say. Hobie.
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# ? Oct 8, 2015 03:52 |
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it's going a lot better than the last time someone did a spider-man as CEO plot
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Little Mac posted:I think my favorite part of ASM was adding Hobie Brown back to the cast. Not only is he a cool character with a long history but also his name is Hobie and that's fun to say. Yeah, if this whole global Spider-Man thing can dig up some more obscure supporting characters like that and give them some page-time, i'm all for it. I think Slott has actually found a good middle ground between fun ideas and big ideas lately. It's like someone sat him down and had a heart to heart with him and he listened. He still has his flaws, but I find myself not cringing as much as I used to with his attempts to be witty. Renew Your Vows ended up pretty good (minus the idea of Regent...) and this first issue actually has me interested in what will happen next.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:13 |
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I've not finished Superior, so is Doc Ock in that robot a shocking return from the dead or did we have an idea that his mind was bouncing around somewhere?
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:31 |
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zoux posted:I've not finished Superior, so is Doc Ock in that robot a shocking return from the dead or did we have an idea that his mind was bouncing around somewhere? I think anyone with a brain figured out he was out there somewhere.
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X-O posted:I think anyone with a brain figured out he was out there somewhere. I'm assuming he made a copy of his conscious with the future tech he added to his suit during Spider-verse. There was that whole "Sleep for 100 days" command.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:44 |
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I just mean, was it intentionally foreshadowed, and not just "yeah, no way they're killing off one of Spidey's most iconic foes forever".
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 03:48 |
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I'm pretty sure it wasn't hinted at Ock being in the Living Brain before this but I may be wrong.
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zoux posted:I just mean, was it intentionally foreshadowed, and not just "yeah, no way they're killing off one of Spidey's most iconic foes forever". They tried one time.
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Lurdiak posted:They tried one time. Yes but sadly Slott came back in the Bullpen Bullets Wars summer crossover.
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zoux posted:I just mean, was it intentionally foreshadowed, and not just "yeah, no way they're killing off one of Spidey's most iconic foes forever". I mean Spider-Verse happened while Ock was "Asleep" and he clearly knew Peter was coming back so it'd be pretty dumb of him not to make a backup. If it was foreshadowed or hinted at, I have no idea.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 16:51 |
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He thought it was a younger Peter up until their final confrontation in Spiderverse.
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Die Laughing posted:He thought it was a younger Peter up until their final confrontation in Spiderverse. Didn't he figure it out a bit before that? Because he had time to set up his contingency plan, the "sleep for 100 days" thing.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 17:58 |
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I'm just going to read the rest of Superior and then I'll tell y'all what happened I guess...
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 18:02 |
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They foreshadowed SpOck setting up a contingency plan during the epilogue of SPiderVerse before he got booted back to his correct time.
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Die Laughing posted:He thought it was a younger Peter up until their final confrontation in Spiderverse. Peter recognised spOck's Anna Maria AI in Uncle Ben's bunker, which is what gave things away. Nice going, Peter!
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 18:43 |
SirDan3k posted:Yes but sadly Slott came back in the Bullpen Bullets Wars summer crossover. That's a good joke, but I was talking about the time Kaine snapped Ock's loving neck. Which was actually a really great story up until that happened. The plan was to permanently kill him off and replace him with Lady Dr. Octopus. Didn't take.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 18:53 |
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I'm sad we didn't get more Scarlet Spider/Superior Spider crossover. I'm also sad we didn't get more Scarlet Spider. I am not looking forward to Aracely's corpse showing up in a splash page in 2-3 years.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 19:42 |
I'd be a lot more excited over Spidey, Inc. If it weren't Slott writing it.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 19:52 |
Soonmot posted:I'd be a lot more excited over Spidey, Inc. If it weren't Slott writing it. Being a Spider-man fan for the last few years has been like watching a never-ending film loop of a kid riding his bike into a telephone pole.
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# ? Oct 9, 2015 21:31 |
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Actual real question and not meant as a Dan Slott knock (even if it is): For a long time spidey was built on the theme of "with great power comes great responsibility" and the limits and sacrifices that come with that and how Peter grows learning and sacrificing. That honestly has not been a theme for a while, pretty much since slott started (maybe JMS) what would you think the theme of the book is now? Don't answer "Being garbage"
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