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Chill la Chill posted:I can't wait until the TLT lists start to get eaten by something else again so Han can reign supreme once more. Brobots will laugh at TLT lists so enough people will prob continue to play them (even if they only sorta linger near the edge of top 8 without really winning tournaments that often). I still think Chiraneau + Soontir/Phantom can handle TLTs lists well enough to beat the 1 or so they might face in a tournament. B-wings will prob make a comeback as their raw efficiency becomes valuable again. I dont think TLTs will be able to list dodge all of those counters throughout an entire tournament day so as long as you dont get paired against them/win your first two games you prob wont see them the rest of the day.
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Sweet. Regionals 2016 plan made! (Win a store champ and get the two byes)
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Apparently there's some sort of "Dial Upgrade" SKU coming out after coloured pegs, apparently someone spotted it in an inventory list or something, one for each of the three factions.
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Oct 15, 2015 22:52
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ConfusedUs posted:This is so true. Imagine if a TIE fighter (or whatever) could get multiple re-rolls and flips on their 3+ defense dice and effectively negate most damage every turn. The game would take 3x longer and be far less exciting. I agree. But what if they just released rebel-only green dice buffs, and then more anti-shield stuff in general? Or more crits for imperials (ATC is a good start, let's see some more)?
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Tekopo posted:Apparently there's some sort of "Dial Upgrade" SKU coming out after coloured pegs, apparently someone spotted it in an inventory list or something, one for each of the three factions. My guess is acrylic dial tops with fancy engraving.
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Oct 16, 2015 01:08
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The FFG guy that Paul Heaver played against at the Nova open probably saw his ancient and incredibly beat up dials and felt sorry for the dude.
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I'm going to start a band called Dutch Vander and the Y-Wings but I can't decide which genre
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Baron Porkface posted:I'm going to start a band called Dutch Vander and the Y-Wings but I can't decide which genre Progressive Rock.
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Ran Soontir and Kath tonight, figuring I have these ships, I should use them. Faced a Miranda and two... Red Aces? Whichever T-70s get the EPT. They both had PTL and Autothrusters (which he completely forgot about). Kath was only able to get one Cluster Missile off from her cache but DID catch Miranda twice and an X-wing once with Proton bombs. Soontir took a while to get around everything and start shooting but Jesus once he did! He finished Miranda easily along with one of the X-wings The end of the game, we finished with Soontir a millimeter from the last X-wing, both of us facing each other with two hull on Soontir him with three. I had a choice to either boost out of the way or go for the kill. Got a hit and a crit through but no Direct Damage, then completely flubbed my three defense dice and was vaporized. Much more fun than the blowouts I'm usually the victim of!
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Ran Soontir and Kath tonight, figuring I have these ships, I should use them. Faced a Miranda and two... Red Aces? Whichever T-70s get the EPT. They both had PTL and Autothrusters (which he completely forgot about). I love when my matches end up like that. An interceptor at range 1 with an enemy facing them is having a do-or-loving-die moment. Mine tend to die more often than not, because I love interceptors no matter how fragile they are 
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Squints are great because you always feel like you're flying by the seat of your pants. It's a testament to the design of the game that I get the same feeling playing Interceptors and A-Wings that I did flying them in the X-Wing/TIE-Fighter games.
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Played three games last night, all against the same list with a couple different ones of my own. His list was: Bossk with Tactician, Greedo, Engine, Daredevil , HLC, K4 Xizor with Autothrusters, Predator, Advanced Sensors, Inertial My first two games I played a Guri/N'dru/Kavil build. It did pretty poorly, despite the weird build on Bossk, he was amazingly effective. Green move for a free TL, and then Daredevil or boost let him control range 2 really really well, and make him quite hard to keep in arc with Guri, actually. My list did nothing, except for N'dru, who had a different build than you usually see. I was running him with Crack Shot, Homing Missile (the original), and Glitterstim. With his ability on, he fires 5 dice that ignore evade tokens and can crack shot away another evade, and has TL and Focus thanks to Glitterstim. Being able to dunk Xizor with 4-5 hits both games was pretty awesome. Otherwise though, the list was pretty meh. The last game I busted out my double Sigma and Carnor list, and managed a win. Carnor managed to put blinded pilot on Bossk before he could finish off a wounded Sigma at range 1, which led to Bossk's death that turn instead of him blowing away the Sigma and living. Seriously though, Bossk is a monster when you roll some crits, and with Greedo he still gets a pseudo-crit each turn anyway, even when you convert to two hits with his ability. Good times.
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Not really sure why you would use HLC with Bossk, it seems counter-productive. The shots are harder to avoid, sure, but you aren't getting use of his special and might as well use the cheaper Mangler.
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Oct 16, 2015 14:18
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Really briefly tossing this together without optimisation, but... does this work? Is this the Wes/Wedge combo, Scum Edition? Bossk does a 1 bank or 2 straight each turn, receives Lock for free, Focuses if he has someone in his (ridiculous) arc, if not, Boosts, Palob strips their Focus or Evade, Bossk fires with Opportunist? Pair of TLT to taste.quote:98 points
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Oct 16, 2015 14:30
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I saw something similar happen with Kath and it does kinda work.
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Tekopo posted:I saw something similar happen with Kath and it does kinda work. I only suggested Bossk for his special, more chance with a 4th dice to roll a crit, meaning a potential 5 hits.
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Oct 16, 2015 14:44
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Yep, but with Kath with Opportunist, firing from the back, you are still rolling 5 dice with potentially a TL and a focus, 6 if you are at close range.
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Oct 16, 2015 14:53
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If I can find a small and detailed enough decal printer place, I want to place these on either side of the YV666 and paint it all up to be Lando's tour bus.  
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Flew a Captain Oicunn build for the first time yesterday - pretty fun actually planning ways to slam into people and set yourself up to do it again next turn. I had Saboteur and Mara Jade on him because I never use those cards normally - Saboteur did manage to take out an A-Wing to end the game too, flipping a card into a Direct Hit. I was a little miffed on how to build him though - I had a few cards like Intimidation and Anti-Pursuit Lasers, thinking I might manage to get in the way flying close all the time to get the enemy to bump me but it never happened. Engine Upgrade did sound kind of neat since he can still boost after bumping thanks to the Dauntless title. Too bad you can't boost into other ships with him, that would be neat. Is there a better EPT out there that is all well and decided on or am I better saving the points for another ship on the list? I had him paired with buzzsaw Whisper who did most of the work and, since Oicunn is so easy to hit, managed to escape the game almost unscathed. My opponent did manage to predict me well enough to get her to bump after decloaking which was very unfortunate - I'm still really bad at estimating where ships will end up if they are turning towards each other.
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Oct 16, 2015 17:13
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Paint eyes on the back of your ships, to confuse your enemies so they don't know which way they are facing.
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ZenMastaT posted:Flew a Captain Oicunn build for the first time yesterday - pretty fun actually planning ways to slam into people and set yourself up to do it again next turn. I had Saboteur and Mara Jade on him because I never use those cards normally - Saboteur did manage to take out an A-Wing to end the game too, flipping a card into a Direct Hit. I think the best way to build Oicunn is to treat his ability as a nice bonus, rather than center your build around bumping. You could go hog wild with cards like Intimidate, Dauntless, and so on, but I think it's more useful to spend your points and slots on more standard upgrades.
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ZenMastaT posted:Flew a Captain Oicunn build for the first time yesterday - pretty fun actually planning ways to slam into people and set yourself up to do it again next turn. I had Saboteur and Mara Jade on him because I never use those cards normally - Saboteur did manage to take out an A-Wing to end the game too, flipping a card into a Direct Hit. Engine Upgrade Daredevil  EDIT: Darth Vader (29) [36] TIE/x1 (0) Wingman (2) Engine Upgrade (4) Advanced Targeting Computer (1) Captain Oicunn [64] Daredevil (3) Proton Bombs (5) Saboteur (2) Mara Jade (3) Navigator (3) Dauntless (2) Engine Upgrade (4) Strobe fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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Tekopo posted:Not really sure why you would use HLC with Bossk, it seems counter-productive. The shots are harder to avoid, sure, but you aren't getting use of his special and might as well use the cheaper Mangler. Rolling 4 dice against really evasive ships, basically. Mangler is nice for triggering his ability, but he'll shred easy to hit ships either way. Being able to land 4 hits on Soontir or Vader is much scarier for them. It's really a meta call I think. He actually was using Kath for this build previously, but the 180 arc is much much easier to keep on target than the split front/rear arcs.
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So here's what I've come up with for a big boy list to take to casual play this weekend: Redline + FCS + Extra Munitions + Ion Torpedoes + Cluster Missles (40pts) Chirpy + Expose + Rebel Captive + Ysanne Isard + Experimental Interface (60pts) My only question is how people use Torpedoes and Missiles well? They seem to run out of ammo quickly even with extra munitions? Deviant fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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Redline is pretty much the best ordnance platform in the game but...ordnance suffers. It's expensive and can go pretty quickly. Redline does have really solid firepower with it though. Even after it's spent, target locks and boosting to range one keep his damage relevant, if not exceptional. Your loadout looks fine, but I do think that having 2 low agility ships and nothing else is going to cause you issues.
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I'm more of a fan of regular Proton Torps than Ion Torps. The crowd control is nice, but if for whatever reason you don't get to take a focus that turn, they'll payoff with more damage than the Ions. It also saves you a point, and frankly dropping from Expose and EI to Predator and Gunner will probably net you more hits in the long run against the things that are going to be hardest to hit anyway.
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Looking for some input on this Scum list I've built - I'm trying to incorporate my Starviper and at least one Kihraxz fighter (decided to also include a kamikaze Z-95, to send into their flank and hopefully disrupt the enemy a touch), seeing as I really like them and want to use them often, but just...don't, really. So yeah, any input would be greatly appreciated! I get the feeling that this list could certainly do with a bit of refinement, before putting it to the test quote:Guri — StarViper 30
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There is a 150 pt Elite Pilot Only tournament today. I can't figure out what to spend my last 6 points on; alternatively, any suggestions for different builds?quote:144 points EDIT: quote:150 points Everyone is fairly maneuverable and can poo poo out dice. More points usually means more ships on the board, so more damage from Proton bombs. Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Oct 17, 2015 |
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I bought 2 x Starvipers and 2 x Kiraxz Fighters as my first Scum and Villainy ships. Used them in a 3-way game with some mates yesterday, which I ended up winning with just Guri left. Very good stuff, love the look of them. What is the consensus on upgrade cards to use on these ships? I know autothrusters are great, will be using them from now on for interceptors and starvipers, and push the limit? Are predator and crack shot considered good? I would have liked Slave I and Most Wanted too, but they were sold out unfortunately. May pick them up at some point in the future, all the Scum big ships are pretty good looking IMO.
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Predator is very good, crack shot is situational but potentially powerful. Guri also likes Advanced Sensors or Sensor Jammer in the system slot with Virago. Glitterstim and Inertial Dampers are great illicit slots. PtL is actually pretty good on Guri as well, though the green moves on her aren't amazing. It's less great on the Kihraxz since they don't have boost or barrel roll natively.
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The StarVipers aren't very good, but autothrusters is great! And yes, Predator is one of the best EPTs in the game- an any-time offensive reroll no matter what. Crackshot is great on cheap EPTs, but there aren't a lot of them.
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The Gate posted:Predator is very good, crack shot is situational but potentially powerful. Guri also likes Advanced Sensors or Sensor Jammer in the system slot with Virago. Glitterstim and Inertial Dampers are great illicit slots. PtL is actually pretty good on Guri as well, though the green moves on her aren't amazing. It's less great on the Kihraxz since they don't have boost or barrel roll natively. Roger, all good stuff to consider. Will get looking at these illicit things. 1-shot upgrade in general seem like a thing which rewards player skill, recognising/creating the moment to use them being key. Example, Crack Shot is theoretically, in the right situation, an extra point of damage through your opponent's defence dice, which seems easily worth 1pt. Panzeh posted:The StarVipers aren't very good, but autothrusters is great! I will definitely consider those two then, along with PtL on mobile ships. I am trying to mentally form a 'short list' of upgrades I should automatically consider. It seems there are just so many in the game, and most are second tier outside of some amazing combo.
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Major Isoor posted:Looking for some input on this Scum list I've built - I'm trying to incorporate my Starviper and at least one Kihraxz fighter (decided to also include a kamikaze Z-95, to send into their flank and hopefully disrupt the enemy a touch), seeing as I really like them and want to use them often, but just...don't, really. put lonewolf on Guri instead. trust me.
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I love proton bombs. Second game, I killed both Biggs and Airen with one bomb.
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Irom posted:put lonewolf on Guri instead. trust me. Unfortunately I don't have it - the fact that I've just noticed that it only comes with the 666 and YT-2400 does make getting one of them even more tempting, though. Which would you say is more generally useful? (and how easy is it to remove the rear fins from the 666's fuselage, in a way that allows you to slot it back on? Since I remember you guys talking about it previously)
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Major Isoor posted:Unfortunately I don't have it - the fact that I've just noticed that it only comes with the 666 and YT-2400 does make getting one of them even more tempting, though. Which would you say is more generally useful? (and how easy is it to remove the rear fins from the 666's fuselage, in a way that allows you to slot it back on? Since I remember you guys talking about it previously) Both of them have useful upgrades- the 666 comes with Engine Upgrade, a relatively hard-to-find upgrade.
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Major Isoor posted:(and how easy is it to remove the rear fins from the 666's fuselage, in a way that allows you to slot it back on? Since I remember you guys talking about it previously) Pretty easy. Boil some water and hold the back end over it for 1-2min. The glue will loosen enough that you can pop it right off with minimal force. Its attached with pegs and holes so you can snap it on and off whenever you want and itll stay snug.
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I did it! I'm a 2015 Summer Tournament Champion! Had the Dash/Miranda/Keyan list I posted above. Dash was a magnet for shots but only died once, Miranda was a loving Queen with those bombs: 1st game - Killed a Tie Defender that was going to shoot and probably kill Dash with his 1 hull left. 2nd game - Killed both Biggs with his 1 Hull left and Airen with a Direct Hit. 3rd game - Killed Tycho, who was at FULL HEALTH AND SHIELDS with a Direct Hit. Dash was at 1 Hull, Miranda at 1 Shield and 1 Hull and Tycho had a Range 1 shot at Dash. EDIT: All 3 games, my opponent would do his moves, and I would drop a bomb and they would say "You know, I completely forgot you had those." The 2nd game guy did it twice.
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Admiral Joeslop posted:
Players at my FLGS often forget about the bombs, too. I always put a Connor Net on scum Kath because it synergizes so well with her back arc bonus dice. People forget, get Connor'd, and eat a second five dice shot. Usually this kills them unless they're super tanky.
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Seismic Charges on Dutch Vander almost always wind up dealing some hits in any game I fly XXY. I wish I had the points for Proton Bombs but oh well, can't have everything.
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