Ellen Degeneres: Horizons - AI Now Earns More Than Human Crew

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Shine: Feb 26, 2007; No Muscles For The Majority

SynthOrange posted:

Crap, will I need an interdictor?

I've only done a few, but I didn't have to interdict them. After a while they left super cruise and left a wake signal I could follow (wake scanner not required, just dock with it as if it's a station).

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# ? May 9, 2024 23:40

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

Just be careful if they're in a wing.

In this game they love to give you a harmless mission where you're expected to an anaconda in a wing with two sidewinders.

It's not impossible, but by the time you kill the sidewinders your actual target has jumped out.

I hate those missions so much.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 04:26

Galaga Galaxian: Apr 23, 2009; What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!

Yeah, assassination missions are kinda lousy unless you've got a really kick-rear end ship.

RearmingStrafbomber posted:

Strange new frontiers.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 04:34

Paramemetic: Sep 29, 2003; Area 51. You heard of it, right?; Fallen Rib

Starkk posted:

The before/after my latest trip smuggling drugs/slaves/weapons from Sothis. Started playing E:D 5 days ago.

Pacifist Twathammer ITT

# ? Oct 18, 2015 04:37

Starkk: Dec 31, 2008

Paramemetic posted:

Pacifist Twathammer ITT

Hey now I killed a player today at namarii cg.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 05:25

chaosapiant: Oct 10, 2012; White Line Fever

What's the better smuggling ship between the Asp and the Diamondback Exp? I know the Asp is the better all-rounder, but since I was pinching pennies I went with the Diamondback so i'd have more leftover funds for A class equipment. I need gooncensus.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 06:08

Paramemetic: Sep 29, 2003; Area 51. You heard of it, right?; Fallen Rib

Starkk posted:

Hey now I killed a player today at namarii cg.

Twathammer (pbuh) was a player who got 180m or something stupid in a RES after grinding merits, then burned out and quit within a week. You're good people and fortunately Sothis ain't merits so I hope you'll stick around lol

# ? Oct 18, 2015 06:14

Mercurius: May 4, 2004; Amp it up.

chaosapiant posted:

What's the better smuggling ship between the Asp and the Diamondback Exp? I know the Asp is the better all-rounder, but since I was pinching pennies I went with the Diamondback so i'd have more leftover funds for A class equipment. I need gooncensus.

Asp has more and bigger internal slots so there's not really any contest.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 06:23

AndroidHub: Feb 28, 2007; I've seen some stuff that would really make you say "like what?"

nothing here

AndroidHub fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Oct 19, 2015

# ? Oct 18, 2015 06:53

chaosapiant: Oct 10, 2012; White Line Fever

Pro tip: find and crank up the mechwarrior 2 soundtrack while smuggling.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 08:04

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Welp mining was boring as gently caress. What else is there to do? Smuggling's okay but long runs are pretty dull.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 08:26

Space Skeleton: Sep 28, 2004

SynthOrange posted:

Welp mining was boring as gently caress. What else is there to do? Smuggling's okay but long runs are pretty dull.

In the current CG you can be an anti-imperial terrorist and also get paid. I'd do it for free but hey, money!

# ? Oct 18, 2015 08:29

Groggy nard: Aug 6, 2013; How does into botes?

RearmingStrafbomber posted:

Strange new frontiers.

I didn't know that Frontier likes .hack

# ? Oct 18, 2015 08:33

Shine: Feb 26, 2007; No Muscles For The Majority

Wee Tinkle Wand posted:

In the current CG you can be an anti-imperial terrorist and also get paid. I'd do it for free but hey, money!

CZ'S are hella fun, though that event is pretty one-sided unfortunately. I'm hoping another DF conflict breaks out in goonspace so I'll have another excuse to get my war on.

Also, any goons who usually play in solo, considering playing in Private Group instead. It's like solo except you'll see goons flying around and can wing up and stuff.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 08:53

RearmingStrafbomber: Jan 29, 2009; 1-1-2029, tonight the stars are shining bright

Shine posted:

Also, any goons who usually play in solo, considering playing in Private Group instead. It's like solo except you'll see goons flying around and can wing up and stuff.

Load times for hyperspace / system map in solo are pretty terrible for some of us, somehow private group makes this better.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 09:03

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Is there anyway to cancel system map loading? Sometimes it takes as long as witchspace. :smith:

# ? Oct 18, 2015 09:05

Owl Inspector: Sep 14, 2011

SynthOrange posted:

Is there anyway to cancel system map loading? Sometimes it takes as long as witchspace.

This made me fly into a star today because I accidentally pressed map before killing my speed when I arrived at the system, and it took something like 20 loving seconds to load without any way to stop it or get my controls back.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 09:26

FronzelNeekburm: Jun 1, 2001; STOP, MORTTIME

I think I found a station built by robots.

SynthOrange posted:

Okay what's with the Advanced Discovery Scanner? The range says inf, but I point it at a distant unexplored object and it doesnt scan?

It's only for revealing stellar bodies. Your ship can "scan" them without any special equipment if you can stumble across them. Bind the scanner to a weapon group, then "fire" it while cruising around in a system. Then you target all those "unexplored" planets/stars and fly toward them until your ship starts scanning them.

And as Gestalt Intellect says, also having a Detailed Surface Scanner makes your discoveries more valuable.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 10:07

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

If you sell your limpet controllers before offloading all your limpets, you have no way of getting rid of em unless you reinstall a controller. :cripes:

# ? Oct 18, 2015 10:11

Shine: Feb 26, 2007; No Muscles For The Majority

SynthOrange posted:

If you sell your limpet controllers before offloading all your limpets, you have no way of getting rid of em unless you reinstall a controller.

You can't sell them through the Munitions menu, or jettison them from your cargo bay?

# ? Oct 18, 2015 10:13

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Munitions is blank, I didnt try jettisoning.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 10:20

Toplowtech: Aug 31, 2004

Dante80 posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0RbIa9WmuI

Reminds me of battlezone (and it's a good thing).

# ? Oct 18, 2015 11:12

cobalt impurity: Apr 23, 2010; I hope he didn't care about that pizza.

Limpets are just cargo, you can jettison them like anything else. You can't sell them back on the Munitions tab unless you have a module that uses limpets installed.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 11:53

Sekenr: Dec 12, 2013

Starkk posted:

The before/after my latest trip smuggling drugs/slaves/weapons from Sothis. Started playing E:D 5 days ago.

Yeah, its kind of ridiculous. Every single player will be flying an anaconda in a couple days

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Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Not me. I sunk my ill-gotten gains into a vulture to try take part in the weekly event.

So far all I've done is gotten myself blown up.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 11:56

Libluini: May 18, 2012; I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

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Shine posted:

You can't sell them through the Munitions menu, or jettison them from your cargo bay?

You can sell limpets at some stations. At some of course you're hosed and can only buy them. Or don't have them available at all. :v:

# ? Oct 18, 2015 12:40

Synthbuttrange: May 6, 2007

Spent the last hour trying out various weapons. Lasers are okay. Why cant I find a larger multicannon than a class 2? Cannons are great but goddamn the limited ammo. Likewise with the plasma accelerator. Even worse is the railgun. 30 shots then you've got to head home and reload. Did they intend for any of the weapons to be usable?

# ? Oct 18, 2015 13:15

Dr. Arbitrary: Mar 15, 2006; Bleak Gremlin

Railgun is a PVP monster. Worthless in PVE.

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timn: Mar 16, 2010

SynthOrange posted:

Spent the last hour trying out various weapons. Lasers are okay. Why cant I find a larger multicannon than a class 2? Cannons are great but goddamn the limited ammo. Likewise with the plasma accelerator. Even worse is the railgun. 30 shots then you've got to head home and reload. Did they intend for any of the weapons to be usable?

Several weapons including the multicannon don't come in class 3 size. You could try a regular cannon which is sort of like a kinetic plasma accelerator. They have the same ammo, negligible energy usage, and lovely shield damage. They also have a gimbal version which the plasma accelerator does not.

Ammo limits and this ill-conceived idea of ships which are armor tanks seem to be balanced around the idea of short, small-scale combat encounters between station visits. This might make sense for PVP but is pretty useless in most PVE activities where you want to have the endurance to cruise around the same RES or CZ mulching NPCs for an hour or three. For either to be very viable there needs to be a way to repair and rearm in the field during downtime. On my Python I have something like 6 shield banks with 3-5 charges each, so I can go hours grinding bounties without even waiting for my shields to recharge between fights. Ammo weapons and ships loaded up on hull reinforcement can't really do that, at least not nearly as safely.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 14:23

Astroniomix: Apr 24, 2015

Armor tanks are even less viable in PVP than in PVE, thanks to shield cells.

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big nipples big life: May 12, 2014

KakerMix posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32jILVwBJ5Y

If you ain't froggin' you doggin'

This looks fun, I want to play with the frogs but first I must finish my grind for princess good shields.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 14:48

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

The problem with PvE is that it should be closer to PvP in terms of duration and experience. Forcing players to equip their ships for eternal death matches is stupid. Zones should be isolated events that shrink over time as the number of combatants decreases, and influence should occur as a result of who wins the conflict not how many ships are destroyed.

Mission based zones would also be great. Destroy a facility, pick up cargo and escape, assassinate a leader, escort a boarding team, etc. Make it something other than simple death matches.

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big nipples big life: May 12, 2014

Gestalt Intellect posted:

code:

<MatrixRed> 0.11, 0.26, 1 </MatrixRed>
<MatrixGreen> 1, 1, -0.45 </MatrixGreen>
<MatrixBlue> 0.18, -0.26, -0.21 </MatrixBlue>

Does changing hud colors still mess up the map?

# ? Oct 18, 2015 14:51

Dabir: Nov 10, 2012

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

The problem with PvE is that it should be closer to PvP in terms of duration and experience. Forcing players to equip their ships for eternal death matches is stupid. Zones should be isolated events that shrink over time as the number of combatants decreases, and influence should occur as a result of who wins the conflict not how many ships are destroyed.

Mission based zones would also be great. Destroy a facility, pick up cargo and escape, assassinate a leader, escort a boarding team, etc. Make it something other than simple death matches.

Counterpoint: Flying around in a vulture for hours blowing up ships in a war that will never end no matter how many you kill is both fun and profitable.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 14:54

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

Dabir posted:

Counterpoint: Flying around in a vulture for hours blowing up ships in a war that will never end no matter how many you kill is both fun and profitable.

Profitable sure, but I got bored after awhile. I am having more fun trying to avoid getting scanned and panic landing my ship during smuggling runs.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 14:56

timn: Mar 16, 2010

Dabir posted:

Counterpoint: Flying around in a vulture for hours blowing up ships in a war that will never end no matter how many you kill is both fun and profitable.

Grinding rank 5 in powerplay from a CZ was the dumbest most poop socky thing I've ever done in a game, but it was only possible because I have an infinite appetite for this game's combat, maybe any space flight game's combat.

# ? Oct 18, 2015 15:00

DarthBlingBling: Apr 19, 2004; These were also dark times for gamers as we were shunned by others for being geeky or nerdy and computer games were seen as Childs play things, during these dark ages the whispers began circulating about a 3D space combat game called Elite

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Wafflz posted:

This looks fun, I want to play with the frogs but first I must finish my grind for princess good shields.

You know, all you need to do is wait 3 weeks and 6 days, quickly grind the 750 merits, cash in.

You now have access to the shields

# ? Oct 18, 2015 15:16

OldManMarsh: Sep 25, 2013; leeeettsss play

Oh good, there goes my smuggling missions. Who was the genius who decided to put the jettison cargo button next to the silent running when using default key bindings?

# ? Oct 18, 2015 15:27

Kurr de la Cruz: May 21, 2007; Put the boots to him, medium style.; Hair Elf

This needs more love, Rykka did an amazing job:

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Lima: Jun 17, 2012

OldManMarsh posted:

Oh good, there goes my smuggling missions. Who was the genius who decided to put the jettison cargo button next to the silent running when using default key bindings?

You can still complete the missions by buying the commodities, preferably close to the target systems :v:

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