Space and Medieval Engineers: The planets have more bugs than the games

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Nuclearmonkee: Jun 10, 2009

Uncle Spriggly posted:

How many large thrusters can a large reactor power? I feel like I never have a good bearing on engine to power ratio and make my decisions completely for cosmetic reasons.

I do genuinely think that all thrusters should have to be connected to either the conveyer system or to some sort of fuel tank.

With hydrogen thrusters you can do exactly this thing and as an added bonus hydrogen thrusters are really strong.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 19:07

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Uncle Spriggly: Jan 29, 2009

Nuclearmonkee posted:

With hydrogen thrusters you can do exactly this thing and as an added bonus hydrogen thrusters are really strong.

I hope they do this with all thrusters, probably cause I like to punish myself in survival mode.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 19:17

evilentity: Jun 25, 2010

Stream is on, hype!

# ? Oct 23, 2015 19:43

HOTDOG: Apr 2, 2013

Anyone else's rotors detaching randomly?

# ? Oct 23, 2015 20:25

Icedude: Mar 30, 2004

So according to the stream Artificial Gravity won't work in anything greater than 0.5g Planet Gravity according to the stream. I'm not sure I like that, that means to gravity lifts in your planet bases :raise:

# ? Oct 23, 2015 20:57

Verizian: Dec 18, 2004; The spiky one.

Watching the stream as he bounces over those green hills I can't help but wish they'd add power skis and tribes style momentum weapons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqbhxf6M1Vo

Got this from the stream chat, thank gently caress it wasn't goatse.

Verizian fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Oct 23, 2015

# ? Oct 23, 2015 21:04

Klyith: Aug 3, 2007; GBS Pledge Week

Uncle Spriggly posted:

How many large thrusters can a large reactor power? I feel like I never have a good bearing on engine to power ratio and make my decisions completely for cosmetic reasons.

code:

Small ship
           Sm Thrst  Lg Thrst
Sm Gen      2.5       1/5
Lg Gen      17        6
Battery     21        1.8

Large ship
           Sm Thrst  Lg Thrst
Sm Gen      4.5       1/2
Lg Gen      89        8.9
Battery     3.5       1/3

*numbers subject to change, thrusters are probably going to have yet more power updates as they fiddle with the whole concept

Icedude posted:

So according to the stream Artificial Gravity won't work in anything greater than 0.5g Planet Gravity according to the stream. I'm not sure I like that, that means to gravity lifts in your planet bases

Yeah but otherwise why bother with anything but anti-gravity drives for planet take-off?

Maybe they can bring back ladders.

Klyith fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Oct 23, 2015

# ? Oct 23, 2015 21:11

Icedude: Mar 30, 2004

Klyith posted:

Yeah but otherwise why bother with anything but anti-gravity drives for planet take-off?

Maybe they can bring back ladders.

I'd be fine with just disabling Artificial Mass and Spaceballs in a gravity well.

Either that or give better ways of moving up and down, either ladders as you said, or a better way of making elevators.

# ? Oct 23, 2015 21:54

Space Kablooey: May 6, 2009

Hotfix dropped. The asteroid LOD is back to normal.

Is there patch notes for hotfixes?

# ? Oct 23, 2015 22:26

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

HardDisk posted:

Hotfix dropped. The asteroid LOD is back to normal.

Is there patch notes for hotfixes?

The changelog updates with an appended entry at the bottom :ssh:

quote:

Update
- fixed crash when connecting to the game
- fixed crash with destroying voxels
- fixed crash when character was changing suit
- fixed crash with rotors and pistons
- fixed crash when merging grids
- fixed crash with oxygen
- fixed turrets always using conveyor system even when set to off

Verizian posted:

Watching the stream as he bounces over those green hills I can't help but wish they'd add power skis and tribes style momentum weapons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqbhxf6M1Vo

Got this from the stream chat, thank gently caress it wasn't goatse.

Wow, those are some powersliding bugs :rice:

Icedude posted:

So according to the stream Artificial Gravity won't work in anything greater than 0.5g Planet Gravity according to the stream. I'm not sure I like that, that means to gravity lifts in your planet bases

I'm actually okay with that. It means you don't have to fiddle with your ship/shuttle gravity every time you so much as get near a planet. And have to plan your approach instead of going in nose-first.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 02:26

McGiggins: Apr 4, 2014; by R. Guyovich; Lipstick Apathy

That is a big bug.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 02:30

Evilreaver: Feb 26, 2007; GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!; Dinosaur Gum

Neddy Seagoon posted:

I'm actually okay with that. It means you don't have to fiddle with your ship/shuttle gravity every time you so much as get near a planet. And have to plan your approach instead of going in nose-first.

I'm still going nose-first at 300 m/s, I'll just have two large hydras on the nose too. Up until they model G-forces anyway

E: They need a Small Hydrogen tank. On a small ship it's 5x5x5, same as a large cargo. Waaay too big for the micro-fighters I like to make. You can kinda get around it with OxyGenerators loaded with ice.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 02:47

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

Found the stored stream... and you can't use Jump Drives within a planet's gravity. No Adama Maneuver for me :negative:

. The guy even specifically mentions that scene from Battlestar Galactica too :allears:

# ? Oct 24, 2015 03:15

McGiggins: Apr 4, 2014; by R. Guyovich; Lipstick Apathy

drat nerds ruining our nerd fun!

# ? Oct 24, 2015 03:19

frank.club: Jan 15, 2011; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Yo where's that stream upload at?

# ? Oct 24, 2015 03:20

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

McGiggins posted:

drat nerds ruining our nerd fun!

No orbital bombardment with a battleship either, because the atmosphere extends about 15-20 kilometers :eyepop:

. On the plus side, there's an altimiter and horizon indicator on the hud while in a planet's influence.

frank.club posted:

Yo where's that stream upload at?

Oh, right

. Enjoy

# ? Oct 24, 2015 03:23

Literally Kermit: Mar 4, 2012; t

frank.club posted:

Yo where's that stream upload at?

Edit: gently caress, beaten BUT WITH A TWIST

# ? Oct 24, 2015 03:25

Triskelli: Sep 27, 2011; I AM A SKELETON
WITH VERY HIGH
STANDARDS

Neddy Seagoon posted:

No orbital bombardment with a battleship either, because the atmosphere extends about 15-20 kilometers .

Not even torpedoes or even just chucking rocks? Laaame.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 03:34

Rhjamiz: Oct 28, 2007

Triskelli posted:

Not even torpedoes or even just chucking rocks? Laaame.

Well, torpedoes built out of parts and engines should still work. Chucking rocks, not so much.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 03:39

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

Rhjamiz posted:

Well, torpedoes built out of parts and engines should still work. Chucking rocks, not so much.

Whaddya know, a use for the telescopic gunsights on my gravity cannons...

Also it looks like Atmospheric Thrusters aren't conveyor-fed. They're just straight self-contained jet engines that work in atmosphere.

edit: Added the recorded stream link to the OP.

Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 03:57 on Oct 24, 2015

# ? Oct 24, 2015 03:47

Space Kablooey: May 6, 2009

Are the new sliding doors bugged?

# ? Oct 24, 2015 04:11

counterfeitsaint: Feb 26, 2010; I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Evilreaver posted:

I'm still going nose-first at 300 m/s, I'll just have two large hydras on the nose too. Up until they model G-forces anyway

E: They need a Small Hydrogen tank. On a small ship it's 5x5x5, same as a large cargo. Waaay too big for the micro-fighters I like to make. You can kinda get around it with OxyGenerators loaded with ice.

Why not just turn the ship around and use the main thrusters to slow down?

# ? Oct 24, 2015 05:32

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Just flip the engines and pull a Crazy Ivan.

Actually, has anyone done that successfully? Put large engines on rotors?

# ? Oct 24, 2015 05:45

Sorus: Nov 6, 2007; caustic overtones

Last I know it doesn't function quite right, center if lift is thrown off since stuff attached to rotors counts as different grids.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 06:03

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

So, seeing as the atmosphere of a planet is 20km deep, nuking it with Eikester's Nuke Launcher is a bit impossible unless it's a ship designed for it or a one-way trip.

Solution;

Send the launcher with the nuke itself to make an Airburst Gravity-Propelled Shell :v:

. Anything comes within 20m of the front (ie; roughly a second or two prior to impact) or within 50m of the sides, the sensor tells the nuke launcher to Shoot Once and everything goes bye-bye.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 07:03

Bondematt: Jan 26, 2007; Not too stupid

Poison Mushroom posted:

Just flip the engines and pull a Crazy Ivan.

Actually, has anyone done that successfully? Put large engines on rotors?

The issue I ran into was that the rotor parts weren't strong enough for any meaningful thrust.

Also as Sorus mentioned you need them firing straight through your center of mass, otherwise you'll spin.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 07:33

GotLag: Jul 17, 2005; 食べちゃダメだよ

Are there any numbers on hydrogen thruster fuel consumption?

# ? Oct 24, 2015 08:51

McGiggins: Apr 4, 2014; by R. Guyovich; Lipstick Apathy

Hmmm, my asteroids still aren't rendering, and the sliding doors no longer animate, just shift into different positions based on how much time has passed since you last activated it.

On the other hand, they were great when they were working.

Time to file a bug report.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 10:44

Firos: Apr 30, 2007; Staying abreast of the latest developments in jam communism

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Oh, right . Enjoy

It's been muted

# ? Oct 24, 2015 12:20

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

Firos posted:

It's been muted

It plays just fine. No idea what got muted, but the vast majority of it that I watched had sound.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:03

Nuclearmonkee: Jun 10, 2009

So I guess from watching the preview it looks like distance between planets its rather large and jump drives are supposed to be used to go between them? They only go 5km though so I can only assume this number will increase by a factor of 100 or so?

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:49

GotLag: Jul 17, 2005; 食べちゃダメだよ

5km is the minimum jump range

# ? Oct 24, 2015 13:56

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

GotLag posted:

5km is the minimum jump range

Yeah, the average jump distance is something like 1250km per Jump Drive depending on how much mass your ship has. Darth Biomech's Hyperdrives go a lot further and two of those on a small-ish ship will get you about 850,000km in a single jump.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 14:03

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Yeah, the average jump distance is something like 1250km per Jump Drive depending on how much mass your ship has. Darth Biomech's Hyperdrives go a lot further and two of those on a small-ish ship will get you about 850,000km in a single jump.

Which, is, by the way, still only just shy of 3 light seconds, and just a touch over a half of a percent of the distance between the earth and the sun. To put it another way, it would talk almost 180 jumps like that to get from the Earth to the Sun.

Space is really loving big.

girl dick energy fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Oct 24, 2015

# ? Oct 24, 2015 14:18

Rhjamiz: Oct 28, 2007

Poison Mushroom posted:

Which, is, by the way, still only just shy of 3 light seconds, and just a touch over a half of a percent of the distance between the earth and the sun.

Space is really loving big.

Space Engineers takes place in a world where everything is actually very very tiny.

# ? Oct 24, 2015 14:21

GenericOverusedName: Nov 24, 2009; KUVA TEAM EPIC

Some dude on the other forums suggested that they make a gas giant skybox as the official one, and then we could be derping around between planetary moons and ring systems to explain the scale. Still is too small for that but whatever.

Also, now with the hydrogen thrusters I can make my ridiculous space hotrod a reality!

# ? Oct 24, 2015 15:21

Neddy Seagoon: Oct 12, 2012; "Hi Everybody!"

Poison Mushroom posted:

Which, is, by the way, still only just shy of 3 light seconds, and just a touch over a half of a percent of the distance between the earth and the sun. To put it another way, it would talk almost 180 jumps like that to get from the Earth to the Sun.

Space is really loving big.

Three days to get to the sun is still pretty good though :v: