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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

radical meme posted:

BLM is less organized and way less useful than OWS ever was. This is the worst idea ever and the only result that would come out of it is an endless loop of ads that would be run against Hillary in the general election.

If BLM wants to make a difference, then let them get involved in City, State and local elections and force these kind of debates at the local and state level where they could actually influence legislation that matters. They need to stay the gently caress out of Presidential politics. Forcing Bernie and Hillary to kowtow to an unorganized, rudderless group is bad optics.

the sad thing is, you are right.

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JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Tobermory posted:

Gallup just released a new poll about the Tea Party.



What is this painful feeling in my chest... is it... hope???

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

JT Jag posted:

What is this painful feeling in my chest... is it... hope???

They only don't support the tea party because of their apparent failure to accomplish anything.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Tobermory posted:

Gallup just released a new poll about the Tea Party.




"Tea Party" is just a new label for a conservative movement that has always existed. If the label becomes unpopular, they'll just say the Tea Party failed conservatism and rebrand.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
They're mad because the Tea Party is a bunch of RINOs who kowtow to left-wingers like Boehner and Ryan.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

30.5 Days posted:

They only don't support the tea party because of their apparent failure to accomplish anything.
Maybe like one or two of them will follow that realization to its logical conclusion, instead of doubling down on "conservatism can't fail, it can only be failed"

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?
I just want to say that I always read the title of this thread as "it was the best of times, it was the blurst of times" even though it's not really that close to that line.

I think the tea party thing is just because they've gone even further right

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

radical meme posted:

BLM is less organized and way less useful than OWS ever was. This is the worst idea ever and the only result that would come out of it is an endless loop of ads that would be run against Hillary in the general election.

If BLM wants to make a difference, then let them get involved in City, State and local elections and force these kind of debates at the local and state level where they could actually influence legislation that matters. They need to stay the gently caress out of Presidential politics. Forcing Bernie and Hillary to kowtow to an unorganized, rudderless group is bad optics.

Hmm

Hmmmmm

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

As a white activist, it is my job to tell the black activists how to do their job, especially since OWS accomplished so much.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Black people protest like this.

White people protest like this.

Peel
Dec 3, 2007

Opposition has dropped too. I think the main story there is that the 'Tea Party' brand is yesterday's news.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Man I wonder how deep in the barrel they are gonna have to scrap to find politicians dumber than Tea Partiers for the next go-around of "we need someone more conservative."

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Radish posted:

Man I wonder how deep in the barrel they are gonna have to scrap to find politicians dumber than Tea Partiers for the next go-around of "we need someone more conservative."

Rebrand them as ultra freedom zealots.

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

Radish posted:

Man I wonder how deep in the barrel they are gonna have to scrap to find politicians dumber than Tea Partiers for the next go-around of "we need someone more conservative."

If I weren't moving soon I'd gladly brand myself as an EAGLE RUSHMORETARIAN and knock off Darrell Issa if I thought it could work. I forget if vacancies are filled by the governor or special election in California. If the former, I'd just resign day 1.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Radish posted:

Man I wonder how deep in the barrel they are gonna have to scrap to find politicians dumber than Tea Partiers for the next go-around of "we need someone more conservative."

You can only go so far down the barrel before you start hitting legit fascists, i think we start seeing them soon.

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Dapper_Swindler posted:

You can only go so far down the barrel before you start hitting legit fascists, i think we start seeing them soon.
In today's era where everyone leaves an internet footprint, I'm looking forward to people challenging for the House of Representative being revealed to have extensive Stormfront posting records.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Dapper_Swindler posted:

You can only go so far down the barrel before you start hitting legit fascists, i think we start seeing them soon.

Carson is advocating college professors have to have their lectures approved by a government committee if students complain about Christian persecution so welp.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Quote of the day, "I've been trying to point out — I'm on a lot of college campuses, we have a big following on college campuses — there’s nothing sexy and there’s nothing cool about socialism.” ~ Rand Paul

BetterToRuleInHell
Jul 2, 2007

Touch my mask top
Get the chop chop
And now, a slice of life (it's MSNBC, talking about politics or something) -- watch what you say around Melissa Harris Perry:

quote:

“I just want to pause on one thing, because I don’t disagree with you that I actually think Mr Ryan is a great choice for this role,” she said. “But I want us to be super careful when we use the language ‘hard worker.’ Because I actually keep an image of folks working in cotton fields on my office wall, because it is a reminder about what hard work looks like.”

Check your work privilege, motherfucker :argh: As a matter of fact, don't even describe people in any way at all because SLAVERY.

Melissa Harris Perry is the liberal that Bill Maher mocks.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Joementum posted:

Quote of the day, "I've been trying to point out — I'm on a lot of college campuses, we have a big following on college campuses — there’s nothing sexy and there’s nothing cool about socialism.” ~ Rand Paul



You got to admit: noted stud Rand Paul has his finger on the pulse of what makes America's libido tick.

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

And now, a slice of life (it's MSNBC, talking about politics or something) -- watch what you say around Melissa Harris Perry:


Check your work privilege, motherfucker :argh: As a matter of fact, don't even describe people in any way at all because SLAVERY.

Melissa Harris Perry is the liberal that Bill Maher mocks.

She's right people do use "hard working" as code for white people, especially when talking about economic issues.

Aurubin
Mar 17, 2011

So David Vitter is gonna be governor of Louisiana right?

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Aurubin posted:

So David Vitter is gonna be governor of Louisiana right?

Depends on how much his scandals suppress Republican voter turnout, which is difficult to measure.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

BetterToRuleInHell posted:

And now, a slice of life (it's MSNBC, talking about politics or something) -- watch what you say around Melissa Harris Perry:


Check your work privilege, motherfucker :argh: As a matter of fact, don't even describe people in any way at all because SLAVERY.

Melissa Harris Perry is the liberal that Bill Maher mocks.

I don't watch TV news so I didn't even know who this was. I was thinking, "is that Rick Perry's wife", which would have been a perfect bookend to the name of the Perry hunting reserve. Imagine my surprise.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

radical meme posted:

I don't watch TV news so I didn't even know who this was. I was thinking, "is that Rick Perry's wife", which would have been a perfect bookend to the name of the Perry hunting reserve. Imagine my surprise.

Rick Perry's wife is named Anita Thigpen Perry.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Joementum posted:

Rick Perry's wife is named Anita Thigpen Perry.

I totally get why she took her husband's name, even absent all references to his political ideology.

Justus
Apr 18, 2006

...

Mulva posted:

She's right people do use "hard working" as code for white people, especially when talking about economic issues.

Or football players even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogUTMs5Z3ko

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Speaking of which, here's the first youtube comment I have ever found useful or worthwhile:

Eugene N posted:

Sorry, are you the actor's agent? - but also check out this abstract from Billings 2004:

'Previous scholars (J. Rada, 1996; R. E. Rainville & E. McCormick, 1977) have analyzed televised football, finding that there are stark differences in the ways that White and Black players are depicted in terms of innate athletic skill and perceived intelligence. This study analyzes 162 hours and 3,800 descriptors of White and Black quarterbacks in collegiate and professional football games, finding that although Blacks are still characterized as succeeding because of athletic skill and Whites are depicted as failing because of their lack of innate ability, many of the other stereotypes have improved. Using an 18-item coding scheme, the researchers uncover differences by ethnicity of athlete and ethnicity of sportscaster, ultimately arguing that although equality in depictions of athletes has not fully been achieved, progress in many areas has been found.'

http://www.researchgate.net/publica...cast_Commentary

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

ComradeCosmobot posted:

My understanding is that they not only want to get the candidates on record about racial profiling, but also things like welfare, mandatory minimum sentencing, and pretty much every racially-associated political topic.

So was the town hall not going to be televised? Also, I thought BLM generally wasn't thrilled with discussions regarding the economic issues related to black men and women being killed by police.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Radish posted:

Carson is advocating college professors have to have their lectures approved by a government committee if students complain about Christian persecution so welp.

funny thing is i actually had the stereotypical leftist teacher the conservatives fear and unfortunate, he sucked and wasn't fun at all. He was my government teacher in a college and he was kinda of a dickhead and he basically just used https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes for every argument ever for any foreign policy discussions, like ISIS, syria, iraq, iran, russia, north korea, etc. thing is i was/am a history major+ something awful+internet in general so i knew all of this already so it wasn't the eye opening experience i am sure he thought it was. what sucked is thats all he would do. He didnt teach poo poo, he just ranted until the clock ran out. he said one of his greatest pleasures was giving the bird to Bush as he drove past in the campaign bus. and whats worse is i didn't even disagree with his politics. hell i liked alot of it. he was just a terrible, terrible teacher and he was to much of an rear end in a top hat and he never took questions or had arguments with the class. He just came off as a petty rear end in a top hat who browbeat students into agreeing with him. He never did do the religion angle though. But again, other then him, all my other teacher were just normal teachers. alot of them are left leaning sure. but nothing compared to what carson thinks.

fade5
May 31, 2012

by exmarx

pathetic little tramp posted:

The New York Public Library has digitised all their copies of the Green Book:

http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/collections/the-green-book#/?tab=about&scroll=6

These were travel guides for black people that allowed them to navigate the country while avoiding towns where they would be lynched after dark.

Here on page 116, we have a listing of safe places you can spend the night in West Virginia:

http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/5ae34320-942e-0132-7630-58d385a7bbd0#/?uuid=655e5570-942e-0132-3d17-58d385a7bbd0

Clarksburg has a hotel named Mrs. Ruby Thomas Lodgings? That's an odd name for a hotel, right? Because there were actually no hotels that served [edited to add]: black* people in Clarksburg, so this is literally the address of someone who lists their home as a place to spend the evening.

*Kind of an important adjective I forgot here.
Huh, very interesting.

Unrelated, when you said "The Green Book" I thought you meant this Green Book.

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Err why would you cut this kind of deal with terrorists? I don't get it. This is an insanely bad deal.

Bob Ojeda posted:

What the gently caress else are you going to do?

e: this is a serious question
Hold out until they cave over the debt limit like they did last time. (Read: until the billionaires start making GBS threads their pants over the idea of a default.)

Comedy answer: actually treat them like terrorists.

fade5 fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Oct 27, 2015

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
A discharge petition just passed in the House, 246-177! It's the one that reauthorizes the Ex-Im Bank, which the leadership secretly, but not publicly, supports, but still.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Does anyone actually care about the Export-Import Bank?

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Luigi Thirty posted:

Does anyone actually care about the Export-Import Bank?

Boeing does.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
BLM's idea for a 7th debate is actually extremely good

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Luigi Thirty posted:

Does anyone actually care about the Export-Import Bank?

GE does.

Edit:

Another story, and yet another.

Bob Ojeda
Apr 15, 2008

I AM A WHINY LITTLE EMOTIONAL BITCH BABY WITH NO SENSE OF HUMOR

IF YOU SEE ME POSTING REMIND ME TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
Why is the Tortilla Party so opposed to Ex-Im again?

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Bob Ojeda posted:

Why is the Tortilla Party so opposed to Ex-Im again?

Big government!

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Bob Ojeda posted:

Why is the Tortilla Party so opposed to Ex-Im again?

It uses tax money to subsidize business loans and they've got a Libertarian streak.

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Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Joementum posted:

It uses tax money to subsidize business loans and they've got a Libertarian streak.

The graft not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, is reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

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