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SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Alter Ego posted:

Boehner's risking being in the same room with the Tortilla Coast wackos?

Does he WANT to wind up dead in a gutter somewhere?
I mean I would.

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evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Alter Ego posted:

Boehner's risking being in the same room with the Tortilla Coast wackos?

Does he WANT to wind up dead in a gutter somewhere?

They're all RINOs now since they supported Ryan, didn't you hear.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

WithoutTheFezOn posted:

What do you mean "come from"? As in, they're no longer including that money in the "totally not money we're spending 'cause it's not in the budget!" fund?

This is a misrepresentation of what the OCO trickery was about. The OCO trick was "It's not covered by sequestration so it's totally legal to boost military spending above and beyond sequestration limits if we just put the money in the OCO!"

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.
:munch: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-are-about-2016

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no

ComradeCosmobot posted:

This is a misrepresentation of what the OCO trickery was about. The OCO trick was "It's not covered by sequestration so it's totally legal to boost military spending above and beyond sequestration limits if we just put the money in the OCO!"
Same difference. Not really us spending money.

But isn't it also true that since it's not part of the budget, it doesn't count towards official deficit numbers?

WithoutTheFezOn fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Oct 26, 2015

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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What reason does Boehner have for not just goatseing the room as soon as he takes the podium

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

quote:


This elephant appears confused

Thought it was Clickhole for a moment.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Fojar38 posted:

What reason does Boehner have for not just goatseing the room as soon as he takes the podium

He still needs /some/ Republican votes

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
The New York Public Library has digitised all their copies of the Green Book:


http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/collections/the-green-book#/?tab=about&scroll=6


These were travel guides for black people that allowed them to navigate the country while avoiding towns where they would be lynched after dark.

Here on page 116, we have a listing of safe places you can spend the night in West Virginia:

http://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/5ae34320-942e-0132-7630-58d385a7bbd0#/?uuid=655e5570-942e-0132-3d17-58d385a7bbd0

Clarksburg has a hotel named Mrs. Ruby Thomas Lodgings? That's an odd name for a hotel, right? Because there were actually no hotels that served [edited to add]: black* people in Clarksburg, so this is literally the address of someone who lists their home as a place to spend the evening.

*Kind of an important adjective I forgot here.

pathetic little tramp fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Oct 26, 2015

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

DaveWoo posted:

And in 2008 the winner was Huckabee. McCain tied for third with Fred Thompson.

It's pretty amazing that both of the two prior winners of the Iowa caucus are running in Iowa today and that neither has gained any support whatsoever in the state.

Mitt Romney
Nov 9, 2005
dumb and bad

That article is a bit misleading.

Portraying Sununu as a voice of establishment reason is laughable, he'd fit right in with Carson/Trump supporters. He's said worse things than most tea party congressmen and worse than Trump. He knows exactly what's going on.

Saying that McCarthy didn't have the votes because he was establishment- it's more cause he torpedoed any remaining legitimacy of the Benghazi committee (in the eyes of the media) and his supposed affair.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

quote:

Choosing the single nuttiest part of Ben Carson’s Republican presidential platform is incredibly challenging – there are just so many options to choose from. Just over the weekend, the competitive GOP candidate talked about scrapping Medicare, compared abortion to slavery, and tried to defend his frequent Nazi references.

But if we’re ranking the most ridiculous recommendations, Carson’s plans to “monitor” political speech on college campuses has to be near the top.

To briefly recap, the retired right-wing neurosurgeon argued last week that he doesn’t want to shut down the federal Department of Education; he’d prefer to turn it into an investigatory body in which it would “monitor our institutions of higher education for extreme political bias.” If a Carson administration decided it disapproved of the “extreme” political speech on a university campus, the school would lose its federal funding.


On NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Chuck Todd tried to pin Carson down on this bizarre plan. The GOP candidate – currently, a top tier contender – insisted, “This is not just spouting off; I’ve thought about this.” What a relief.

CARSON: The way that works is you invite students at the universities to send in their complaints, and then you investigate. For instance, there was a university – I’m sure you’ve heard of the situation – where, you know, the professor told everybody, “Take out a piece of paper and write the name ‘Jesus’ on it. Put in on the floor and stomp on it.” And one student refused to do that and was disciplined severely. You know, he subsequently was able to be reinstated–

TODD: We’re not violating the First Amendment? How is what you’re advocating not a violation of the First Amendment?

CARSON: It’s not a violation of the First Amendment, because all I’m saying is taxpayer funding should not be used for propaganda. It shouldn’t be.
Reminded that Carson’s definition of “propaganda” might look like “free speech” to others, the Republican replied, in a bit of a non-sequitur, “Well, that’s why I said we’re going to have the students send in. And we will investigate.”

In other words, Ben Carson envisions a system in which students report professors to government authorities, who will launch investigations to determine whether the scholars’ lesson plans meet with a Republican administration’s speech standards. Schools that fall short will face punishment.


No, this doesn’t sound like an authoritarian approach to higher-education at all. Why do you ask?

What’s more, as we discussed last week, let’s also not forget that Carson, perhaps more than any other presidential hopeful, is preoccupied with “political correctness” and the “speech police.” That Carson doesn’t even try to reconcile his concerns about the “speech police” with his desire for federal investigations into professors’ lectures should probably surprise no one.

But what about the specific anecdote Carson mentioned? Surely, no one is going to defend the “stomp on Jesus” professor, right?

Before answering, consider the facts that Carson isn’t aware of. Right Wing Watch reported last week, “In reality, the professor, a ‘very religious’ Sunday school teacher, was using a lesson on the importance of symbols included in a textbook written by an instructor at a Christian college and reported a student who physically threatened him after the exercise.”

Oddly enough, the Republican presidential hopeful citing this anecdote doesn’t seem to know what he’s talking about.


http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/carson-sketches-out-plan-monitoring-campus-speech?cid=sm_fb_maddow

:dogbutton:

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Popular Thug Drink posted:

my name is maureen dowd and i'm here to tell you all how irresponsible and dangerous it is to not place safety rails at the edges of cliffs *takes running start, leaps off cliff*

edibles are tricky because the onset is slow and you can't just stop being high. which is why it is of paramount importance to, you know, dose yourself slowly and be aware of your doses. i would think that this is just basic drug knowledge 101 but i guess you don't have to know such things to write op eds for the new york times

e: my state passed a law called "Brad's Law" because some rich dude's son smoked way too much synthetic weed in a hot tub, passed out, and drowned. we really should teach basic drug safety in schools, right after we talk about condoms. don't mix drugs, don't trip alone, remember what you took, do your research and check your doses first, and don't ever dose in a dangerous location such as a body of water

gently caress you i'll trip alone if i want too

the knife wasn't even sharp you can't even see where i tried to stab myself

Mitt Romney
Nov 9, 2005
dumb and bad

quote:

The way that works is you invite students at the universities to send in their complaints, and then you investigate. For instance, there was a university – I’m sure you’ve heard of the situation – where, you know, the professor told everybody, “Take out a piece of paper and write the name ‘Jesus’ on it. Put in on the floor and stomp on it.” And one student refused to do that and was disciplined severely. You know, he subsequently was able to be reinstated–

Did that actually happen? Seems like something from one of those lovely Christian movies where they portray the world as out to get them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMjo5f9eiX8

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Mitt Romney posted:

Did that actually happen? Seems like something from one of those lovely Christian movies where they portray the world as out to get them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMjo5f9eiX8

Its directly from "God's Not Dead"

Which, while profitable, was rated so poorly that it sampled worse than some actual corny B movies.

awesmoe
Nov 30, 2005

Pillbug

I love this election

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

awesmoe posted:

I love this election

"Don't touch that 2nd Amendment. But Free Speech and Freedom of Religion can gently caress off."

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

wow wtf. he isnt even coming for a bullshit free speech angle. he is just advocating censorship for stuff he doesnt like.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Mitt Romney posted:

Did that actually happen? Seems like something from one of those lovely Christian movies where they portray the world as out to get them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMjo5f9eiX8

quote:

Before answering, consider the facts that Carson isn’t aware of. Right Wing Watch reported last week, “In reality, the professor, a ‘very religious’ Sunday school teacher, was using a lesson on the importance of symbols included in a textbook written by an instructor at a Christian college and reported a student who physically threatened him after the exercise.”

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Mitt Romney posted:

TPM updated it with a NYTimes link and:

Err why would you cut this kind of deal with terrorists? I don't get it. This is an insanely bad deal.

Also that Carson authoritarianism is a thing of beauty. So what happens when the "extremist" thought is right-wing?

Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Oct 26, 2015

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Mitt Romney posted:

Did that actually happen? Seems like something from one of those lovely Christian movies where they portray the world as out to get them.

it did actually happen

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/04/02/the-stomp-on-jesus-professor-finally-tells-his-side-of-the-story/

the professor, a devout christian, was trying to teach a lesson about symbols. one student got so upset he threatened the professor and was suspended. then it became an example of atheist liberal indoctrination

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

pathetic little tramp posted:

Clarksburg has a hotel named Mrs. Ruby Thomas Lodgings? That's an odd name for a hotel, right? Because there were actually no hotels that served people in Clarksburg, so this is literally the address of someone who lists their home as a place to spend the evening.

The original AirBNB, if only because trying to stay in a real hotel would kill you.

Goon Danton
May 24, 2012

Don't forget to show my shitposts to the people. They're well worth seeing.


Yes, let's protect free speech by punishing professors for saying things we don't like, and fight Political Correctness by turning the Department of Education into the loving Politburo. :catstare:

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Nolanar posted:

Yes, let's protect free speech by punishing professors for saying things we don't like, and fight Political Correctness by turning the Department of Education into the loving Politburo. :catstare:

:eng101: Cheka

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Don't forget that God's Not Dead ends with the liberal atheist college professor Hercules getting hit by a car on his way to a Christian rock concert and a minister baptizing him instead of anyone calling an ambulance. And then the Duck Dynasty guy addresses the audience and tells them to all text God's Not Dead to everyone in their phone. It's a great movie.

And the main character's love interest's brother's girlfriend is a liberal atheist blogger who hates Duck Dynasty and gets diagnosed with and dies of cancer during the course of the movie, which is insinuated to be God's wrath.

Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Oct 26, 2015

Bob Ojeda
Apr 15, 2008

I AM A WHINY LITTLE EMOTIONAL BITCH BABY WITH NO SENSE OF HUMOR

IF YOU SEE ME POSTING REMIND ME TO SHUT THE FUCK UP

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Err why would you cut this kind of deal with terrorists? I don't get it. This is an insanely bad deal.

What the gently caress else are you going to do?

e: this is a serious question

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Nolanar posted:

Yes, let's protect free speech by punishing professors for saying things we don't like, and fight Political Correctness by turning the Department of Education into the loving Politburo. :catstare:

More like the KGB/NKVD

Luigi Thirty posted:

Don't forget that God's Not Dead ends with the liberal atheist college professor Hercules getting hit by a car on his way to a Christian rock concert and a minister baptizing him instead of anyone calling an ambulance. And then the Duck Dynasty guy addresses the audience and tells them to all text God's Not Dead to everyone in their phone.

Its some sort of sick irony that he has a beard that rivals Osama's :smuggo:

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

ComradeCosmobot posted:

My understanding is that they not only want to get the candidates on record about racial profiling, but also things like welfare, mandatory minimum sentencing, and pretty much every racially-associated political topic.

BLM is less organized and way less useful than OWS ever was. This is the worst idea ever and the only result that would come out of it is an endless loop of ads that would be run against Hillary in the general election.

If BLM wants to make a difference, then let them get involved in City, State and local elections and force these kind of debates at the local and state level where they could actually influence legislation that matters. They need to stay the gently caress out of Presidential politics. Forcing Bernie and Hillary to kowtow to an unorganized, rudderless group is bad optics.

Chelb
Oct 24, 2010

I'm gonna show SA-kun my shitposting!

Luigi Thirty posted:

Don't forget that God's Not Dead ends with the liberal atheist college professor Hercules getting hit by a car on his way to a Christian rock concert and a minister baptizing him instead of anyone calling an ambulance. And then the Duck Dynasty guy addresses the audience and tells them to all text God's Not Dead to everyone in their phone.

:laffo:

And people ask me why I don't watch many movies anymore.

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Ohkrana. :hist101:

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




Bob Ojeda posted:

What the gently caress else are you going to do?

e: this is a serious question

Give the republican corporate owners and average americans an economics lesson in what happens when we default? I don't think your average joe knows anything about it.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

The use of the term "politburo" indicated a post-Revolutionary organization. :colbert:

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Zeroisanumber posted:

The use of the term "politburo" indicated a post-Revolutionary organization. :colbert:

Given that we're talking about a reactionary conservative, it's curious that you'd ascribe any element of the People's government to his censorship sentiments, comrade. :commissar:

Civilized Fishbot
Apr 3, 2011

Rollofthedice posted:

:laffo:

And people ask me why I don't watch many movies anymore.

God's Not Dead is in no way representative of the typical movie (thankfully).

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Civilized Fishbot posted:

God's Not Dead is in no way representative of the typical movie (thankfully).

It is, however, representative of the typical Fundie Christian flick.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

It's terrible even by Christian standards. It even includes a scene where everyone stands up and claps at the main character's argument in favor of God's existence and walks out on the liberal atheist professor.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

Mitt Romney posted:

Did that actually happen? Seems like something from one of those lovely Christian movies where they portray the world as out to get them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMjo5f9eiX8

The links that address your question is in the article.

The short answer is no.
The long answer is that the lesson was to write Jesus on a piece of paper and then look at it, think about the word, and then to step on it. The goal isn't for anyone to step, let alone stomp on Jesus. It is to get them to think about the symbols meaning to them: the plan fully expects people NOT to step on the word at all because of the meaning the word has to them.

The reason why the student got in trouble wasn't because he refused to stomp, it was because he physically threatened the teacher after class.

Chelb
Oct 24, 2010

I'm gonna show SA-kun my shitposting!

Civilized Fishbot posted:

God's Not Dead is in no way representative of the typical movie (thankfully).

Don't worry, I saw Mad Max: Fury Road like any respectable movie-watcher.


radical meme posted:

BLM is less organized and way less useful than OWS ever was. This is the worst idea ever and the only result that would come out of it is an endless loop of ads that would be run against Hillary in the general election.

If BLM wants to make a difference, then let them get involved in City, State and local elections and force these kind of debates at the local and state level where they could actually influence legislation that matters. They need to stay the gently caress out of Presidential politics. Forcing Bernie and Hillary to kowtow to an unorganized, rudderless group is bad optics.

Yeah, I agree; I don't know how presenting demands to presidential candidates is at all a good way to affect meaningful change. I guess it's a more glamorous target.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Rollofthedice posted:

Don't worry, I saw Mad Max: Fury Road like any respectable movie-watcher.

You might be interested in the Revelation Road movies. It's like Mad Max, but low-budget and Christian!

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Tobermory
Mar 31, 2011

Gallup just released a new poll about the Tea Party.

quote:

Americans' support for the Tea Party has dropped to its lowest level since the movement emerged on the national political scene prior to the 2010 midterm elections. Seventeen percent of Americans now consider themselves Tea Party supporters, and a record 54% say they are neither supporters nor opponents.

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