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Barnyard Protein posted:the imprisonment operator has closure over all entities in the group of items in life. work is a prison. programming is a prison. programming work -- a prison. this thread is a prison. you can't escape it. a baby is born, the doctor holds him before the overjoyed mother. the baby turns towards the doctor and intones "the mcrib is back"
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Maluco Marinero posted:Even if they are yours, they don't actually work like a dictatorship. You are as beholden to the people you lead as they are to you in your own projects. those relationships are still fundamentally different we are not pulling together to increase the capital stock of some dude on a yacht somewhere. shared sacrifice to serve shared goals, not externally imposed conditions
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:when you do things for money to further someone else's goals instead of your own, yeah, that's a job you sound like a whiny teenager ranting about the tyranny of the parentocracy yes I have to be accountable to other people at work. it doesn't bother me at all. why should it? if I was left to my own devices id never finish anything, as a string of forgotten hobby projects will testify, whereas accountability to others has spurred me to achieve some things at work that I'm pretty drat proud of. it's good.
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let's walk it back a little: this is a maslow's hierarchy thing this being yospos nearly all of us have money and creature comforts and valuable human relationships. and now i want more than that. y'know, self-actualization and all that jazz i am pretty sure a job, regardless of its individual merits, isn't a step in that direction.
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Soricidus posted:you sound like a whiny teenager ranting about the tyranny of the parentocracy whining teenagers haven't resigned themselves to the nature of things yet Soricidus posted:yes I have to be accountable to other people at work. it doesn't bother me at all. why should it? if I was left to my own devices id never finish anything, as a string of forgotten hobby projects will testify i'm ok with not-finishing things on my own terms instead of being proud of the various ways i made rich men richer
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:i once spent several months without a job just for fun. i could afford it so i just decided to take an extended stay-cation and enjoy myself. my pattern of daily activities was actually quite similar to my day job. i spent a lot of time coding. i spent a lot of time reading about cool new stuff in the industry. it was genuinely fun and i loved it not surpsisingly you don't have any feelings of loss against not ever seeing other human beings
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on the other hand maslow's hierarchy totally breaks apart when applied to collectivist ones because it's individualistic propaganda by and for middle-class americans
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Luigi Thirty posted:on the other hand maslow's hierarchy totally breaks apart when applied to collectivist ones because it's individualistic propaganda by and for middle-class americans what can i say, i am a creature of my context
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echinopsis posted:not surpsisingly you don't have any feelings of loss against not ever seeing other human beings i had a lot more time to see other human beings, in totally voluntary contexts that did not require us to jockey for status or compete for limited rewards
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Nov 1, 2015 04:06
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wouldn't it be cool if we lived in star trek and money wsa like not a thing for anybody ever
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:those relationships are still fundamentally different So what you're saying is, its okay to get a job if its towards a shared goal, not to enrich yacht dude. Lots of people get those sorts of jobs already, so tell us something new.
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pepito sanchez posted:wouldn't it be cool if we lived in star trek and money wsa like not a thing for anybody ever yeah having magic would be cool
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pepito sanchez posted:wouldn't it be cool if we lived in star trek and money wsa like not a thing for anybody ever or at least not a requirement to eat and sleep. start small
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Maluco Marinero posted:So what you're saying is, its okay to get a job if its towards a shared goal, not to enrich yacht dude. Lots of people get those sorts of jobs already, so tell us something new. if your collaborators are working paid jobs and serving your goals instead of their own, then you have become the yacht dude good job, you
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whining about the need for money and making it completely painless at the same time is boring as gently caress go play a computer game while at work, take a walk, smoke some crack
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someday I'll be the guy in the yacht ill just be the guy looting it during the revolution before getting picked off by a koch industries civil peace contractor
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uncurable mlady posted:ill just be the guy looting it during the revolution before getting picked off by a koch industries civil peace contractor the trick, as Romania showed us, is to get most of the security forces on your side first
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anyway, i was playing one of those old star trek text games and i decided that a game based around shoveling numbers around in a console would be perfect to try to work out in f# so the galaxy consists of 64 quadrants numbered (1,1) through (8,8), each made up of 64 sectors numbered (1,1) through (8,8). each sector can contain a star, a Klingon, a Romulan, a starbase, or the player. I'm not sure how to represent the galaxy map best to keep track of objects. right now i have a list comprehension that creates an empty galaxy of sectors (which can contain a space object but currently contain nothing) nested into quadrants that are nested into a map object. the problem with that is that you would probably need to iterate over the whole thing to find anything, so that sucks. i think the right way to do it is the other way around, a list of objects in space and their locations and then you extrapolate the galaxy map from there by just finding all objects in quadrant (5,5) or whatever. i haven't written any logic beyond placing the player in a sector. idk
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hey Notorious b.s.d. what you're talking about already has a name https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marx%27s_theory_of_alienation
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As Notorious BSD awoke one morning from uneasy dreams he found himself transformed in his bed into a gigantic computer janitor...
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Luigi Thirty posted:anyway, i was playing one of those old star trek text games and i decided that a game based around shoveling numbers around in a console would be perfect to try to work out in f# Write the galaxy and each sector as an array, and keep another list of, say, romulan locations, klingon locations etc. (bonus pointsif the lists are maintained automatically). Yes the data is in 2 places, but it gives you both spatial lookup and logical (find the klingons) lookup really quickly. It'll be error prone if you don't automate changing both sources of info at once though.
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what's the load of that lookup though it's pretty minor overall given it's gonna be an array of what bytes??
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64 x 64 is 4096 are you realy gonna stress about cycling through? man you could make a lookup table every second and be sweet this is 2015
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I don't hate my job. I don't hate having a job. I need a job. I've taken some sick days and I'm about dying of boredom
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dude how'd you get that av
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echinopsis posted:dude how'd you get that av mild trolling in PYF
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nbsd is right. working for someone else's enrichment is not inherently satisfying, no matter how interesting the problems you're working on.
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I've tried the alternative and it sucked
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My team is kind of interesting. There is no product owner to prioritise the massive backlog of jiras. So its just decided in team whst we work on and when we deliver it. Also the "sprints" are 1 month long. It owns
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my stepdads beer posted:nbsd is right. working for someone else's enrichment is not inherently satisfying, no matter how interesting the problems you're working on. right ok so before nbsd moves the goalposts all the way to siberia let's quote his original bait and maybe just maybe see why he got dogpiled into the ground Notorious b.s.d. posted:lol at imagining you can be paid money to for something "fulfilling" Notorious b.s.d. posted:job satisfaction is bullshit.
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spending my life having fun and enjoying what i do and making other people happy is the worst thing imaginable, because someone i've never met and don't care about is watching his numbers go up faster than my numbers are going up
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I work for a non-profit there is no yacht suck it
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Bloody posted:I work for a non-profit there is no yacht suck it sorry, that's not "work" that's a joke job volunteer effort
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Nov 1, 2015 15:58
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idk it pays a deece six figgies
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a good job you enjoy that helps people? frankly that's impossible
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Valeyard posted:My team is kind of interesting. There is no product owner to prioritise the massive backlog of jiras. So its just decided in team whst we work on and when we deliver it. Also the "sprints" are 1 month long. It owns Also we have a scrum just before everyone leaves for the day.
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Awia posted:a good job you enjoy that helps people? frankly that's impossible lol nah I hate it I want more money.
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like six and a half figgies or more
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comedyblissoption posted:hey Notorious b.s.d. what you're talking about already has a name go work for a non-profit or the military - any organization that doesn't answer to loving shareholders is superior to one that does
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uncurable mlady posted:a baby is born, the doctor holds him before the overjoyed mother. the baby turns towards the doctor and intones "the mcrib is back" Since it's a baby saying it, I'm imagining him pronouncing it "m-crib". 
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